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-Lurid Crime Tales-
So the Epstein bust means Democratic 'faves' may roll out of the woodwork?
[American Thinker] The bust of Bill Clinton's buddy and airplane-mate Jeffrey Epstein, monickered by Forbes as "Palm Beach pervert," for sex trafficking in underage girls, is a complex one. The news is speculative about whether Epstein was being protected by Robert Mueller's special counsel's office, and why the Department of Justice acted now, given that he's been problematic for years. There's also his role as a bigfoot Democrat donor, same as Ed Buck and other perverts who've financed the Democrats. A while back, I made a list here. But one thing's pretty clear, based on a tweet by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's daughter Christine: Democrats knew.

Here's the Washington Examiner report:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s daughter said that some favorite figures of both the Right and Left may be implicated in the sex trafficking case alleged against billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

"This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice. It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may ‐ whether on Republicans or Democrats," Christine Pelosi tweeted Saturday after news of Epstein's arrest broke.

And that's got to be a house-on-fire crisis for Democrats, too. It sounds like all kinds of Democrats are going to be found in Epstein's little black book of clients, not just Bill Clinton.

President Trump, by contrast, banned the pervert from his Mar-a-Lago club years ago. So much for pinning the scandal on Trump as Democrats had hoped.

Why would Christine, who's probably tweeting as a proxy to her mother the way daughter Alexandra also seems to do, say something like that? Up until now, most of us thought it was just Bill and Jeff, a disgusting partnership based on trips to the Dominican Republic.

Christine reveals that Democratic "faves" are involved, and not only were they involved, Pelosi & Co. knew about it... and did nothing. That may not be what Christine meant to reveal. But it sure looks like that's what's coming down the pike.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6532 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Rantburg graphic on stand-by.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 1:10 Comments || Top||

#2  This has the potential to snag a lot of high and mighty of all political parties. The Clintons, Hollywood pedos, Establishment GOPers, this could get very messy.
Posted by: Injun Bucket8891 || 07/08/2019 1:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Statutes of limitations?
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/08/2019 1:31 Comments || Top||

#4  ...Well, nobody's announced they're leaving public life to spend more time with their family yet...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/08/2019 4:25 Comments || Top||

#5  or leaving their family to spend more time at massages
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/08/2019 5:20 Comments || Top||

#6  There is no statute of limitations in the court of public opinion. If they are guilty, they should be shamed at a minimum.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 07/08/2019 6:18 Comments || Top||

#7  A quick search suggests there is no statute of limitations for human trafficking at the federal level. Add that it’s sex trafficking, and they were jailbait, and he is probably toast.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/08/2019 7:29 Comments || Top||

#8  I already saw a write up yesterday that tried to tie Trump to this, calling him a friend and neighbor, as a gotcha for the election.

I'm expecting more such as time goes on.
Posted by: AlanC || 07/08/2019 7:30 Comments || Top||

#9  write up yesterday that tried to tie Trump to this

See "Mole Hunts" in Attacking Command and Control Nodes story, found in today's Burg.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 7:36 Comments || Top||

#10  Clintons go under their own bus?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/08/2019 7:43 Comments || Top||

#11  Maybe the Democrats are preparing their base for a big gambit play where very important Democrats will be deliberately sacrificed in order to assuredly destroy the Trump presidency.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 07/08/2019 8:40 Comments || Top||

#12  See "Mole Hunts"

You think the 'call chain' has begun?
I wondered at the canceled trip of Pence.
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/08/2019 8:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Since the FBI and CIA seem to have no problem appropriating state drivers' license pictures for facial recognition, it seems like not much of a leap to take already-existing technology that monitors social networks and just keep an eye on who communicates with who.

Or would that be a bridge too far suddenly?
Posted by: gorb || 07/08/2019 11:07 Comments || Top||

#14  I predict, aside from Epstein (maybe), that nothing will happen and no one will go to jail.

Thus it always has been among the rich and famous and will happen in this case.

I'm very disillusioned by the justice system.
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 07/08/2019 11:23 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm very disillusioned by the justice system.
Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance


And justifiably so I might add.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 11:58 Comments || Top||

#16  Nobody will go to jail just like with Clinton.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 07/08/2019 12:21 Comments || Top||

#17  https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/guess-whose-daughter-is-reportedly-a-prosecutor-in-jeffrey-epstein-case/
Posted by: warthogswife || 07/08/2019 12:26 Comments || Top||


#19  Talk B. Cheap ( Farmin B. Hard's mouthy brother)
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 07/08/2019 14:28 Comments || Top||

#20  HAHAHAHAHAHAH *GASP* HAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHA!

Epstein's blackmail material

Freagin "Young [Name] + [Name]" handwritten on the damn labels!!!
Posted by: Charles || 07/08/2019 15:12 Comments || Top||

#21  Calling Mr. Harvey Weinstein, white courtesy phone.
Posted by: DooDahMan || 07/08/2019 16:18 Comments || Top||

#22  There has been a report that Comey's daughter initiated this.
This suggests the possibility that Comey himself senses the walls closing in on him and that he will be arrested. In that case this could be a signal from him that if he goes down he will take lots of others down too.
These others would be Democrats he had been protecting.
If so I would not sell his family life insurance.
Posted by: Daniel || 07/08/2019 16:32 Comments || Top||


GOP Rep. King: ‘Severe, Serious Abuses' by FBI, CIA ‘Going to Come Out'
[Breitbart] In a Sunday interview on John Catsimatidis’ New York AM 970 radio show, "The Cats Roundtable," Rep. Peter King (R-NY) predicted that "serious" and "severe abuses" by the FBI and CIA during the 2016 presidential run are "going to come out" as a result of President Donald Trump declassifying top-secret documents related to former FBI special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

King said he is "hopeful and confident" Attorney General William Barr will uncover the "bias" by the two agencies against then-candidate Donald Trump.

"There is no doubt to me there was severe, serious abuses that were carried out in the FBI and, I believe, top levels of the CIA against the president of the United States or, at that time, presidential candidate Donald Trump," King told Catsimatidis. "There was no legal basis at all for them to begin this investigation of his campaign and the way they carried it forward, and the way information was leaked."

He continued, "The improper applications they filed in the FISA courts to get surveillance. All of this is going to come out. It’s going to show the bias, it’s going to show the baselessness of the investigation and how dangerous it is to democracy. I would say the same thing if this were done to Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. It’s just wrong."
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6485 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Worse than what has already come out at the Tree House?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 07/08/2019 6:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I like the idea of a beltway apocalypse, but it being Petah King (R) Blowhad, I have about the same amount of faith in results that Trey Gowdy-Doody and Looie Gomer gave me, which is to say none at all.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 07/08/2019 9:27 Comments || Top||

#3  We'll see.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/08/2019 9:52 Comments || Top||

#4  I keep hearing all these things are going to come out. When?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/08/2019 11:27 Comments || Top||

#5  If they talk about it enough it will desensitize the shock when the facts really come out. I always wondered if there was a ruling elite that tried to control the elections, directly or in a more moderate mode, but now I'm certain these two organizations, plus the IRS, have played a part in our election process. I think its time to decentralize our government, time to move the IRS out of DC, move the FBI out of DC, there is just way too much inbreeding there.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/08/2019 11:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, yeah.
Posted by: charger || 07/08/2019 12:20 Comments || Top||

#7  #5 If they talk about it enough it will desensitize the shock when the facts really come out.

I believe this is called a "modified limited hangout".
Posted by: charger || 07/08/2019 12:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Peter King (R-NY) predicted that "serious" and "severe abuses" by the FBI and CIA during the 2016 presidential run are "going to come out"

He did not mention DOJ or State. It's not the agencies in their entirety but those who were at the top of the heap; those who were appointed by Obama, other deep staters, and a few outside of government.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/08/2019 13:31 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Dealings with China Expose the Real Problems
[Dallas News] WASHINGTON ‐ A few years ago, Dallas-based architecture giant HKS entered ‐ and won ‐ a high-profile competition to design the centerpiece of a horticulture expo in Qingdoa, a coastal Chinese metropolis of more than 9 million people.

But the firm couldn’t reach a fee agreement with local officials, who cut off negotiations without explanation or compensation.

That seemed to be that, until an HKS partner saw the expo that came to fruition. He was stunned. The venue featured a pale facsimile ‐ ripped off by a local design institute ‐ of the firm’s plans.
In the 1980's, my employer had a similar experience in the Middle East.
"There’s nothing we can do," Hawkins remembered thinking, knowing from years of working in China that the "lack of rule of law" means American businesses operating there "basically have no recourse against anybody."
So somebody ought to do something about this. But not the Orange Man and his bad tariffs.
Unfair trading practices in China are at the core of President Donald Trump’s high-dollar trade war against America’s economic rival, particularly when it comes to longstanding complaints over intellectual property theft, forced technology transfer and other costly problems.
Cost of doing business, man. The consumer can suck up the resulting costs. Move along, move along.
The underlying issue often gets lost in the cacophony of concern that’s emerged from the business community over Trump’s reliance on tariffs as a way to force Beijing’s hand.
Shriek! Not in my backyard. Go gore somebody else's ox!
But there’s widespread agreement about the need to bring China to account. That urgency has only increased as more and more U.S. companies have found that they can’t afford not to work in China, challenges and all, because of the vast business opportunities there.
We need a more nuanced approach, like that of Hillary. Or Jawn F'in Kerry.
But the basis for his action is actually the U.S. Office of the Trade Representative’s finding that China’s trade practices are "unreasonable" and "discriminatory."
Unexpectedly, the Chinese disagree.
"The complaints against China’s trade practices are very real," said Doug Barry of the U.S.-China Business Council, a Washington-based industry group. Among the issues flagged by Barry: The proliferation of fake goods made in China. The practice of forcing U.S. companies, via joint ventures, to transfer over prized tech in order to operate there. The government subsidization of Chinese enterprises, which undercuts U.S. businesses.

It’s "not politically expedient for the Chinese" to make a deal.
It would be one thing if Trump can use tariffs to secure a trade deal with China. It would be entirely another if such an agreement takes a real swipe at addressing some of the deep-rooted problems. And still another if any deal ends up being enforceable in a realistic way.

Experts like David Jacobson are dubious. He advises U.S. companies on how to operate in China after spending years traveling between the two countries on business.

Jacobson cautioned against viewing the latest trade truce as "really a substantial lessening of tensions," explaining that it’s "not politically expedient for the Chinese" to make a deal To that end, he’s bearish about the prospect of an agreement that produces systemic change.

"I would love to see it," he said. "But I don’t have much hope."
Let's hope Trump surprises us all.
Posted by: Bobby || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6481 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Only a selfish, greedy fool does business with Communists. Just Say No!
Posted by: Herb Angeash5316 || 07/08/2019 2:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Taxes on Americans add up to a higher tariff than that when trading with China.

Until MSM economists "decide" people can be told that we'll keep getting gibberish like the above "analysis".

It's much better to have a external tariff than an internal tax.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/08/2019 4:08 Comments || Top||

#3  In the 1980's, my employer had a similar experience in the Middle East.

Same, same at college in the 70's.
They would pick my old program listings out of the trash.
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/08/2019 8:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Skidmark, In the same time period I dealt with that by putting very wrong programs visibly in the trash.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/08/2019 9:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Much more devious as they coded in 'study groups'.
I was a bit more direct.
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/08/2019 13:36 Comments || Top||

#6  I dealt with that by putting very wrong programs visibly in the trash.

Clearly I should never, ever be a spy. So many important things never occurred to me.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/08/2019 13:48 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Criminalizing Israel’s right to self-defense in Gaza
[Jpost] The question of the criminalization of IDF action is at the heart of much of the Paleostinian diplomatic activity at the United Nations
...aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society...
At issue is the question of whether Israeli military activity against the Paleostinians, particularly in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamaswith about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
, can be constituted as self-defense, and if Israel has the right to take such military action.

From the start of the Gaza conflict with Hamas, the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®,, the Paleostinians sought to lay the groundwork to charge IDF soldiers with war crimes. After the Gaza War in the winter of 2007-2008 named Operation Cast Lead, the Paleostinian Authority pushed for passage of the infamous Goldstone report at the United Nations Human Rights Council.

The report accused both Israel and Hamas snuffies of war crimes, but in spite of the furor it caused, it had little pragmatic impact because the PA had no way to bring it before the International Criminal Court. Nor could the PA hold Israel liable before the court for the second Gaza War, Operation Pillar of Defense, in 2012.

But in the aftermath of that war, the UN recognized Paleostine that year as a non-member state. That status allowed it to sign the Rome Statute in 2015, a move that made it a party to the ICC. In 2018, the PA formally asked the chief prosecutor Fatou Bensouda to investigate the "situation in Paleostine" as of June 13, 2014.

It was a request that transferred the 2014 Gaza War, known as Operation Protective Edge, into the first conflict for which Israeli soldiers can be held liable before the ICC for war crimes.

Bensouda has yet to rule on whether the ICC will pursue action against Israel. But in October 2018, she issued a stern warning to both Israel and Hamas that she was still investigating the matter.

But until the ICC formally drops the matter, just the specter of possible ICC prosecution gives additional weight to any UN activity or report that speaks to war crimes.

At issue would be a 200 page 2015 UNHRC report already stating that both Israel and Hamas may have committed war crimes during Operation Protective Edge.

But Israel no longer needs to launch a war to get into trouble with the ICC over Gaza. More significant than the 2014 war is the Hamas led March of Return, which began on March 30, 2018. IDF response to its violent riots along the southern border, including the launching of incendiary devices, prompted the UNHRC to approve a 252-page report accusing Israel of war crimes. It also approved the creation of a secret dossier on Israelis whom it believes have committed war crimes on the Gaza border. It wants that dossier to be passed to the ICC.

It is unclear if the ICC will pursue or drop the PA’s claim against Israel. But the very threat of it gives teeth to persistent UN activity against Israel on Gaza. And should the ICC move forward, it will have an ever accumulating wealth of material on which to draw to pursue such a claim.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [7207 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  It is the 21st century. Who in their right mind is listening to either the Paleos or the UN?
Posted by: SteveS || 07/08/2019 10:13 Comments || Top||

#2  The Fundamental Logic of the UN is ... idiotic. If the Palestinian Minority can do whatever it wants then why should the Israel obey the rulings of the (mythic) International Community™ as represented by the United (*cough*) Nations?
Posted by: magpie || 07/08/2019 12:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Israel should announce that any court outside of Israel attempting to hold them for war crimes will be considered an act of war and everyone, EVERYONE involved will be tracked down and given the MOSSAD treatment.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 07/08/2019 21:26 Comments || Top||


Five years after Gaza war: Defiant Hamas struggles to hold on to power
[Jpost] Five years after Operation Protective Edge, Hamas, one of the armed feet of the Moslem Brüderbung millipede, remains as defiant as ever, and there are no signs that its rule over the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamaswith about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Strip is facing any real challenges.

Hamas has only one thing on mind: holding on to power.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6510 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  title contradicts the content

also ignores the fact that Hamas has tried several times to assassinate Abbas or his chief assistants
Posted by: lord garth || 07/08/2019 2:09 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
New Study Shows Potentially Dangerous Effects of Abortion Drugs
[Free Beacon] Analysis found negative behavioral impact of mifepristone and misoprostol on lab rats.

A new study found a number of potentially harmful side effects linked to chemically induced abortions, the most common non-surgical method used in the United States.

A team of behavioral neuroscientists at the Franciscan University of Steubenville released the findings of a three-year study that found biological, physiological, and behavioral changes among rats who received mifepristone and misoprostol. The study found decreases in the appetite, exploratory movement, and self-care of lab rats which ingested the abortion drugs. The neuroscientists also found a decrease in vaginal impedance, which may reflect a reduced ability to conceive, similar to that seen with the aging process. The study is published in Frontiers in Neuroscience, a multidisciplinary, international journal led by Idan Segev of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Dr. Stephen Sammut, a professor of psychology at Franciscan University and leader of the study, told the Washington Free Beacon that while most people assume patterns of depression in abortion patients are a result of societial pressure, his study could provide a physiological link. However, he noted that further research and analysis is needed.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WTF is exploratory movement?
Posted by: Texhooey || 07/08/2019 0:29 Comments || Top||

#2  The neuroscientists also found a decrease in vaginal impedance, which may reflect a reduced ability to conceive, similar to that seen with the aging process.

No mention of the potential long-term genetic impacts of the birth control pill.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 0:48 Comments || Top||

#3  The study found decreases in the appetite, exploratory movement, and self-care of lab rats Where the fuck would I wanna go, and why the fuck would I wanna comb my fucking hair ?!!

I'm a lab rat. The existential substratum of my life can be summed up on one word. Terminal.



Posted by: Dron66046 || 07/08/2019 4:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Potentially Dangerous Effects

Like death?
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/08/2019 8:44 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
The Secret War between Russia and Iran's Quds Force in Syria
[ChicagoBoyz] Using Occam’s razor regards the origin of these drones, the simplest explanation is the Quds Force provided the same drone to both the Syrian Rebels that are fighting Assad and Russia and to the Yemen’s Houthi Rebels fighting the American supported Saudi Arabian Coalition in Yemen.

It appears that Iran’s Quds Force and Russia are fighting a secret war in Syria and all the reports of heavy GPS jamming by Russia in Syria -ARE NOT- aimed primarily at Israel or the USA. It is aimed at IRGC facilities/forces in Syria.

Photographic evidence says some of the D-I-Y drones attacking Khmeimim airbase are Iranian.
Posted by: newc || 07/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6480 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Terror Networks
Attacking Command and Control Nodes: Two Examples Reveal a Change in the Face of War
"Attacking C3 Nodes"... not exactly a new concept, but an interesting article nonetheless.
[Free Range International] In my last post I speculated that the drone, shot down by the Iranians, was an intentional baited ambush by the United States Navy. My theory is based on the pattern of events and the reported outcomes in current Iranian situation and, as I said in the last post, we may have have arrived here by accident, but we are here.

"Here" is the destruction of the Iranian missile control systems by a cyber attack launched during an aborted air raid. Missile control systems are closed kimono, they are never connected to the internet, all inputs into the system come from filtered targeted data or humans. The system went down one of two ways; through the return from a targeted platform, or through the actions of a human asset.

Given the historical record of the Central Intelligence Agency with human intelligence assets the chances they had an agent anywhere near Iran’s missile defense systems are remote. But it is possible and will cause the Iranians to launch a long, bloody, mole hunt. Mole hunts are an awesome tool to use against adversaries because a mole hunt will always turn up guilty people to be disappeared even when there are not guilty.

The United States had a gigantic Mole hunt in 2001 when weaponized anthrax spores showed up in the congressional mail room. Robert Muller and James Comey oversaw the ensuing investigation hounding one man to suicide while bankrupting another. Neither of the suspects had anything to do with the Anthrax attacks and the one who survived won a 5.82 million dollar settlement after he was exonerated. That’s how mole hunts work; they find "guilty" people regardless of actual guilt, and right now Iran is in the middle of a big one. What could be better than that?
Followed sometime later by a two year Russian collusion investigation or as the author refers to it, "Mole hunt."
The simplest explanation for why a demonstrator drone, past its service life and headed for a junk heap, was sent over to the gulf and promptly shot down is the drone was serving a specific purpose that no other platform could serve. That service was (possibly) introducing a virus into the targeting systems. When we sent in a feint raid (pulling the planes back at the last minute) the virus the drone introduced was activated. The resulting damage was catastrophic for Iranian defense forces.

This morning in Kabul, Afghanistan there was yet another horrific bombing. This one targeted the Ministry of Defense offices responsible for administration and logistics. A truck bomb started the attack which was followed up by multiple gunmen who had no intention of surviving the assault. It is a typical Taliban attack in an area with no less than five schools as well as the Ministry of Public Works (across the Kabul River).
Emphasis added.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 07:05 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6534 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (pulling the planes back at the last minute) the virus the drone introduced was activated. The resulting damage was catastrophic for Iranian defense forces.

Forcing air defense systems to be manned and radars to be switched to the on positions revealing locations.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 7:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Air defense systems are disconnected from the internet, yet accept data feeds from targets they're tracking? Or from random external sources? And the data is treated as executable instructions?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 07/08/2019 7:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Military mobilization alerts have a handy way of finding themselves being transmitted by cellie. These lads have other cellie... bad habits as well.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 7:30 Comments || Top||

#4  introducing a virus into the targeting systems.

But B, aren't the Iranian MDS targeting and launch controls running on their own intranet ? Can a Wi-fi link within a window of a few seconds be used to transfer and execute a virus like that ?

Is it possible that it was a self-goal by... interested parties within the five-sided box to push Trump further into an unavoidable conflict ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 07/08/2019 7:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Is it possible that it was a self-goal by... interested parties within the five-sided box to push Trump further into an unavoidable conflict ?

Yes possible, but in my view unlikely. I'm sticking with the fear of a commercial aircraft being shot down and POTUS being blamed. You may recall how quickly cml airline flight restrictions were put in place following the cancellation of the attack. A key added benefit would be the uptick and tracking of signals devices at all levels.

For obvious reasons, we attempt to avoid detailed discussions on signals intelligence capabilities here on the 'low side.'
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 7:53 Comments || Top||

#6  this maybe about the WoT but it is opinion

or speculation

and the title is false since using decoys is an old, old practice (used at least as far back as the 5th century BC by the Athenians vs Sparta at Ephesus)
Posted by: lord garth || 07/08/2019 8:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Spot on observations your Lordship. Corrections have been made. Thank you !
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2019 8:10 Comments || Top||

#8  I believe 'virus' is used as a metaphor, poorly selected by the author, to suggest the Iran's drone response would trigger an infectious internal inspection and search for the guilty parties in the command chain that used unsecure communications in response to the event (i.e. mole hunt).

Monitoring command and control channels with ensuing affiliated ancillary communications is an 'old' strategy of tedious linkage analysis. Modern AI machine learning techniques can expose the communication nets, almost realtime. A delight for Mission Planning.
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/08/2019 8:11 Comments || Top||

#9  Air defense systems are disconnected from the internet, yet accept data feeds from targets they're tracking?

They need to: IFF
Posted by: Frozen Al || 07/08/2019 11:20 Comments || Top||

#10  "...a demonstrator drone, past its service life and headed for a junk heap, was sent over to the gulf and promptly shot down..."

Where did this information come from? This is new to me and kind of changed my opinion of this incident. OTOH, it does explain Trump's reaction.
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 07/08/2019 11:39 Comments || Top||

#11  RE #10: I recall seeing something along the same lines that it was not a front line asset, and that sort of makes sense; going to scrap it anyway; get some good out of it.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 07/08/2019 14:32 Comments || Top||

#12  I found this earlier article showing the flight path of the doomed drone.

And here on the aircraft spots twitter feed. Interesting, eh?
Posted by: Bobby || 07/08/2019 15:14 Comments || Top||

#13  Thanks for the lead Bobby.
According to TheDrive the drone Iran hit was the 2nd flight. The 1st was sent in low, and targeted but missed. The 2nd was sent in at a higher outside of the NOE.

Reminds me of KAL007 probing the Soviets.
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/08/2019 18:17 Comments || Top||



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