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Steele Dossier: Rep. Collins calls for FBI Director's resignation
[What A Finger] Congressman Doug Collins comments exclusively on newly released documents that show the FBI possibly mislead congress on the reliability of the Steele Dossier, and the Congressman calls for Director Chris Wray to step down. — with Newsmax TV’s Sean Spicer and Lyndsay Keith.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 09:05 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wind it up. Start over.
Posted by: Iblis || 08/13/2020 14:19 Comments || Top||

#2  The best that can be said at this is that he's not James Comey--at least we don't think so.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/13/2020 17:48 Comments || Top||

#3  sO Congressman Doug Collins is the only GOP with actual balls.
Posted by: Woodrow || 08/13/2020 22:42 Comments || Top||


Schweizer: Harris Engaged in ‘a Massive Cover-Up' of Alleged Clergy Sex Abuse
[Breitbart] On Wednesday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Breitbart News senior contributor and Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schweizer stated that 2020 Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) engaged in a "massive cover-up" of alleged sexual abuse against Catholic priests.

He explained that many "law firms and lawyers and people connected to the church hierarchy" financed the Harris campaign.

Schweizer said Harris did "not well at all, particularly on very sensitive, explosive cases, including child sexual abuse."

"Tucker, from 2004 to 2011, she was San Francisco attorney general," he continued. "She did not prosecute a single case of sexual abuse involving Catholic Church priests. To put that in context, of the 50 largest cities in America, all 50 of them prosecuted at least one case during that time period, except for Kamala Harris. And in addition to that, she inherited, from her predecessor, Terence Hallinan, hundreds of pages of internal Catholic documents that included the names of 40 current or recent priests who had been charged by parishioners with molestation."

"Hallinan was using those documents to build criminal cases, and he was also planning to release them after redacting the names of victims," Schweizer added. "Kamala Harris actually deep-sixed that document and froze those documents, and those documents disappeared, much to the chagrin of victims’ groups. So, it’s a massive cover-up. And a lot of the people that financed her campaign to beat Hallinan were law firms and lawyers and people connected to the church hierarchy, who did not want that — those documents to come out."
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 07:37 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

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.....did not prosecute a single case of sexual abuse involving..... To put that in context

Check your local listings. Additional criminal "context" available upon request.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 7:48 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Descending Further Into Chaos With “Peaceful Protesting,” Double Standards
[Concealed Carry.com] As I sit back and try to not consume any news because it's utterly depressing, I realize that it's my job to do just that and deliver at least some of it to you a couple of times per week. Over the weekend, Riley posted a screenshot in our company chat of an incident that took place on the Indiana streets that has me scratching my head.

The above picture was not a part of what he posted but is from the incident itself. I thought this particular scene was important from the video because it shows two guys with guns in their hands, stopping traffic under threat of force.

Most of the people talking about it don't seem to notice the second guy, only the first.

I had to do some digging to find out what happened, which brought me to the cesspool that is Twitter.

Here's the full, 50 second video from a Twitter post:
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Antifa/BLM

#1  There have always been two sets of rules, and the permissive set isn't applied to "law abiding citizens."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/13/2020 12:02 Comments || Top||

#2  It's always easier to enforce the law on those who will abide by it in the first place.

And the average gov worker will always seek the path of least resistance in doing their "job".

Guess what that path is in the realm of law enforcement?

Posted by: charger || 08/13/2020 14:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Congressional Candidate Takes on Soros
[News with Views] Multiple media outlets attacked Marjorie Taylor Greene, a successful Republican congressional candidate in Georgia.
By successful they mean she won the Republican primary...
Why? As "a conservative wife, mother, and businesswoman who stands with President Trump and against the left-wing socialists who want to wreck our country,"she dared to call billionaire left-wing money bags George Soros the "enemy of the people."

In addition to financing Democratic Party politicians and left-wing organizations such as the ACLU, Soros has subsidized a wide array of liberal causes, ranging from abortion rights to gay rights to legalization of dangerous drugs. Even former members of the terrorist Weather Underground, such as Bernardine Dohrn and Linda Evans, have appeared at functions sponsored by his so-called Open Society Institute or accepted its grants.

But Google the name of Marjorie Taylor Greene and you will be bombarded with stories designed to create the impression this Christian woman is a crazy conspiracy theorist. During the campaign, Tucker Carlson highlighted how one of her campaign ads was taken down by YouTube. Nevertheless, she won the nomination with over 57 percent of the vote and received President Trump’s enthusiastic endorsement. She got the support of the people.

One typical charge from an AP story in the New York Post said she "pushes an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that billionaire philanthropist George Soros, who is Jewish, collaborated with the Nazis."

Many "conservatives" in and out of Congress are scared by these charges and shy away from making them. But as Rep. Louis Gohmert discovered, when he consulted the actual interview and went to the videotape, the theory is not anti-Semitic but true. Soros told the "60 Minutes" show, as Gohmert noted, that, "he had no sense of guilt about the role he played in Nazis’ confiscation of property from the Jewish people during the Holocaust."

In addition to the usual and expected charges of racism, the media said Marjorie Taylor Greene either backed or believed in something called the QAnon "conspiracy theory," which apparently has something to do with the idea that sex predators and perhaps Satanists operate at high-levels in American society and the world.

Regarding the latter, the Satanic Temple, an actual organization, is currently offering a "Satanic abortion ritual." The evil of abortion is considered by many Christians not a "choice" but a modern form of paganistic child sacrifice.

In the matter of child predators, haven’t we learned about Jeffrey Epstein? Or what about:
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 09:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great. We need more 100 fold.
Posted by: Woodrow || 08/13/2020 22:43 Comments || Top||


Victor Davis Hanson: US Constitution and traditions are under attack by Democrats
[FOX] Democrats are waging war against traditions and the Constitution.

Several of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary candidates favored the abolishment of the Electoral College. Or, as once-confident candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren put it, "I plan to be the last American president to be elected by the Electoral College."

Furor over the Electoral College among the left arose from the 2000 and 2016 elections. Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, respectively, won the popular votes. But, like three earlier presidents, they lost the Electoral College voting — and with it the presidency.

The Founding Fathers saw a purpose in the Electoral College. It ensured that small, rural states would retain importance in national elections.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 08:23 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  US Constitution and traditions are under attack by Democrats

Since about 1933 or so, but thanks for the reminder.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 8:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Since 1861?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 10:23 Comments || Top||

#3  ^
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/13/2020 11:35 Comments || Top||

#4  The Founding Fathers saw a purpose in the Electoral College. It ensured that small, rural states would retain importance in national elections.

Indirectly. The 9 smaller states would never have joined the union in the first place.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/13/2020 11:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Normalcy, peace, prosperity are all bad for the Democratic Party. So, they'll do everything they can to foster chaos.
Posted by: Iblis || 08/13/2020 14:21 Comments || Top||

#6  I read the article.

I must have missed it, but did Hanson say what to do about this phenomenon?
Posted by: charger || 08/13/2020 14:27 Comments || Top||

#7  @ #2 & #3 - Yes, and his name is "Honest Abe" Lincoln.
Posted by: Clem || 08/13/2020 18:40 Comments || Top||


Michelle Obama: Coronavirus an Opportunity to Change ‘How Wealth Is Distributed'
[Breitbart] Wednesday on her new podcast, former first lady Michelle Obama called coronavirus an opportunity to think about "how wealth is distributed" to lower-income essential workers.
Learning about communist redistribution from the late South African president Madiba.
Obama noted the "power" that would enable what "we" could do to allow such actions.
"As long as I get to dip my dick beak in the distribution flow"
Journalist Michele Norris said, "There’s kind of a new COVID vocabulary, isn’t it. There are also words that have always had some meaning, but that take on different meaning now, the word hero, the word essential."

She continued, "I think we will forever think about the word ’essential’ in a different way. And, when we were told to stay home, they got up, got dressed, and went out into the world, risking their lives, to drive garbage trucks, to work in warehouses, to work in grocery stores, to work in hospitals. Often doing invisible, but yes, essential work, and I struggle with it because I’m not sure that we treat them like they’re essential."

Obama replied, "And that’s something that we need to, that’s a part of that reflection, that we need to do, you know. With ourselves, and, and as a community. And we have to think about that, in terms of how wealth is distributed. You know, how, how these essential people are supported. And what does that mean? A lot of these people are broke. They don’t have health insurance. That it, if they were to get sick, as essential as they are, we have not, as a society, deemed it essential to make sure that they can go to the doctor and get the care that they need. And even if they can get COVID care, even if they can get tested, to keep working and doing our stuff, after the effects of the virus have worn off, and they are dealing with some lung issue, or some breathing issue, or asthma, that they don’t have to wait, in a, an emergency room, for hours on end, and then worry, that they can even, afford the prescription medication that they need to survive, I mean we have to think about this. We have to think about the people who are not from this country, who are essential workers. A lot of those folks are still out in the fields picking our corn, and making sure that that food is in our grocery stores, and working in these meatpacking plants, to ensure that the, that the cow that was slaughtered, gets into our bellies."
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 00:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Rahm Emanuel — 'You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.'
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  I think so too. Only I don't think it's go the way Michelle imagines.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 2:16 Comments || Top||

#3  The Obama's sure did redistribute wealth to themselves. Where is the book Barack promised for a $65 million bribe advance?
Posted by: Glavinter Greretle1225 || 08/13/2020 2:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Shakedown!
Posted by: George Chigum6626 || 08/13/2020 2:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe it should be distributed based on how you fulfil a shortage, rather than rent-seeking or it's twin, extortion for failure rewards (although the extortion for failure rewards always leads to rent-seeking).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/13/2020 3:01 Comments || Top||

#6  I'd love to see the Obama's most recent Federal Schedule A (not the ones where they released them to the public; that's bullshit pumped up numbers). That'll tell me just how much they've decided to 'redistribute' their own wealth. Until then, she can spare me another harpy lecture.
Posted by: Raj || 08/13/2020 5:52 Comments || Top||

#7  Get a job.
Posted by: Vespasian Ebbereng3110 || 08/13/2020 6:21 Comments || Top||

#8  How wealth is stolen. She's a full blown communist.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/13/2020 7:05 Comments || Top||

#9  "And to show how easy it is to redistribute wealth properly, Barack and I have donated.... Oh, nevermind. Scratch that part."
Posted by: Bobby || 08/13/2020 8:54 Comments || Top||

#10  Somehow I think failure to understand where wealth actually comes from is a flaw in the grand plans of the wookie.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/13/2020 9:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Chewy-bacca's been chewing wacky tobackey
Posted by: Lumpy Glinetle1086 || 08/13/2020 9:58 Comments || Top||

#12  yea wealth should be distributed to those who produce something of actual value.

then there are those like Big Mike who loot the public coffers.
Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 || 08/13/2020 11:38 Comments || Top||

#13  "As long as I get to dip my dick beak in the distribution flow"

I feel bad for laughing at that. Or I will after I pick myself up off the floor.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/13/2020 11:38 Comments || Top||


No, Kamala Harris Isn't A ‘Moderate' ‐ She's A Radical Threat To America
[Federalist] Once Joe Biden named Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate for the upcoming 2020 election, it didn’t take long for the media to begin its latest attempt to gaslight Americans.

In the Associated Press announcement of Biden’s choice, AP writers Kathleen Ronayne and Will Weissert write approvingly of Harris’s "centrist record" as a contributing factor in the decision. Longtime political analyst and lobbyist Doug Schoen praised Biden’s pick while arguing Harris "could help Biden solidify his position among centrist voters and even moderate Republican voters."

Not to be outdone, The New York Times characterized Harris as a "pragmatic moderate." In an additional Harris announcement for the Times, Jonathan Martin and Astead W. Herndon refer to Harris and Biden as "two moderates" who share "center-left politics."

Yet an analysis of Harris’s voting record in the U.S. Senate, as well as policies she has proposed, reveal quite a different story. Her positions form an agenda nearly entirely in lock-step with the radical leftist ideology that has taken over the Democratic Party. Indeed, if Biden wins the 2020 race for the White House, Sen. Harris (D-Calif.) will find herself in a unique position to pose a genuine threat to the values that built the United States of America.

According to a detailed assessment by Voteview, Harris holds a voting record farther left than 97 percent of Democrats in the 116th Senate, and more liberal than 99 percent of the Senate as a whole. Of current members of the U.S. Senate, Harris ranks more liberal than Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) while placing as the Democrat with the most liberal voting record in the chamber aside from Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).

Harris has stated that illegal immigrants in the United States are not criminals — which defines both logic and traditional definitions of standard English words like "illegal" and "criminal" — and once likened U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers to members of the Ku Klux Klan for having the temerity to enforce the law.

Related bonus link: Kamala Harris Was Ringleader In Brett Kavanaugh Character Assassination Attempt
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gaining exposure and campaign experience for the 2024 presidential.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Imagine, if they win in November, Kamala might get about 11 years as Frau President.
Posted by: Clem || 08/13/2020 0:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Never, ever, let a radical leftist prosecuter in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Vespasian Ebbereng3110 || 08/13/2020 2:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Biden's given up with that pick.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/13/2020 3:25 Comments || Top||

#5  These writers may have a point - anyone to the right of Trotsky is a centrist, relatively speaking.
Posted by: Raj || 08/13/2020 5:54 Comments || Top||

#6  What I love about Kamala is they chose her thinking she was a prosecutor when younger so tough on crime will like her, and she was progressive as a senator so progressives will like her...

But the reality Progressives hate her tough on crime years and anyone that likes Law Enforcement hates her progressive years. Then her attacks on civil liberties and her immigration and not really black American history chases off pretty much everyone else in the big Democrat tent.

Worst choice possible if they want to unite their party. Of course if they want to hide bodies that are nearly uncovered, well she might be a good choice in that case.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/13/2020 9:34 Comments || Top||

#7  She got 2% in the run-up last year before they awarded it to Mista Plugz. The Dems know that they will get trounced in Nov. and why waste a good candidates career. Biden (aka Skeletor) is already dead man walking so no worries there. Kamala (pronounced Commie La) is despised almost universally as RJ indicates. Expendable
Posted by: Warthog || 08/13/2020 11:46 Comments || Top||


Video Montage: Biden's History of Bizarre Comments About Black People
[WeaselZippers] If sniffy can't understand the question, why should we expect to understand his answer?
Posted by: Woodrow || 08/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Biden gets 'blacked'

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Science & Technology
Stop Trying To Make ‘Herd Immunity' Happen: Sweden's Attempt At Covid-19 Herd Immunity Failed
[Forbes] - While most countries went into lockdown as Covid-19 spread rapidly across the world, Sweden took a different approach and allowed the controlled spread of coronavirus among the population in attempts to achieve herd immunity.

They relied on individuals to responsibly social distance and slow the spread of the disease, but, according to a new study published by the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0141076820945282,
this decision has been a failure.

    "It is clear that not only are the rates of viral infection, hospitalisation and mortality (per million population) much higher than those seen in neighbouring Scandinavian countries, but also that the time-course of the epidemic in Sweden is different, with continued persistence of higher infection and mortality well beyond the few critical weeks period seen in Denmark, Finland and Norway," said, lead author Professor David Goldsmith.

Herd immunity is when enough people are immune to a disease, like Covid-19, that the disease can’t be transmitted as easily and thus provides indirect protection

It can be achieved either through vaccination or if enough people catch the disease and develop immunity.

Health authorities predicted that 40% of the Stockholm population would have had the disease and acquired antibodies by May 2020. According to the study, the actual prevalence figure is only around 15%.
And, as we know today, there may not be acquired immunity to Covid 19.
...Many experts point out, it’s still too early to tell which pandemic strategy will be best in the long-term.

The authors note it likely won’t be until as many as two years after the pandemic that we will be able to objectively say which method was most effective.

But new evidence continues to emerge that herd immunity may be more difficult to achieve than thought.

For example, clinical and research findings suggest, only severely infected Covid-19 patients acquire antibodies in the immediate and early recovery phase of their illness.

Early research has shown that immunity, even in those who were severely infected, can fade after a few weeks and there have been anecdotal examples of reinfection, but more research needs to be done.
Given the numbers of research groups* that look for immune memory (acquired immunity to Covid 19), if there were such - we'd seen reports** by now.
*Real researchers, not people like Ioannidis or Scott Atlas.
** Since Covid 19 research can be pre-published without pear review.
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#4  /\ Please post newsworthy comments which are neither pejorative or dismissive of others. I know you are fully capable, I've seen numerous examples. Please help us out if you would.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/13/2020 7:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Amazing that the bashing of Sweden by the MSM for not toeing the line continues.

Like wearing masks and quarantining has been such a success story.
Posted by: Clem || 08/13/2020 7:18 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Thimp Clusort2035 || 08/13/2020 7:58 Comments || Top||

#8  The authors note it likely won’t be until as many as two years after the pandemic that we will be able to objectively say which method was most effective.

So what was the purpose of the article, again? Point fingers? Shame Sweden?

It is likely that some of this inter-Scandinavian difference in mortality outcomes might have also have arisen from a failure to shield the most vulnerable Swedes from viral infections (40%–50% of their cases have been in the elderly nursing home resident population).

So maybe the moral of the story is to protect the elderly and vulnerable?
Posted by: Bobby || 08/13/2020 9:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Imagine my surprise when I saw the headline and then correctly guessed who posted it.
Posted by: Raj || 08/13/2020 9:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Sweden was the socialist promised land to the media for a long time. The journo crowd is bitter and disappointed they are tarnishing that halo now.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/13/2020 9:35 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Ebbinetle Elmaving6836 || 08/13/2020 10:00 Comments || Top||

#12  since 1 August, Sweden is averaging only about 2 covid deaths per day

but really given all the issues with different population demographics, different treatment regimes, different protocols on case diagnosis and cause of death, etc. it really is way early to make these kinds of calls
Posted by: lord garth || 08/13/2020 10:02 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Frank G || 08/13/2020 10:06 Comments || Top||

#14  #12 That's what I asked yesterday: "Why Sweden, why not Brazil?".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 10:12 Comments || Top||

#15  The authors note it likely won’t be until as many as two years after the pandemic that we will be able to objectively say which method was most effective.

If a person jumps from a tall building, do we have to wait for a splat on a sidewalk?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 10:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Sweden was the socialist promised land to the media for a long time.

For all the wrong reasons. And now it's a shining city on the hill for anti-socialists --- again for all the wrong reasons.

p.s. Anybody noticed that lock-downs in USA ended months ago?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 10:17 Comments || Top||

#17  Data stops in June. As of today the rest of Scandinavia is still getting more cases and deaths, while Sweden is pretty much done.
Posted by: Iblis || 08/13/2020 10:39 Comments || Top||

#18  Does percentages of immigrants in Sweden versus neighbors correlate at all to infection rates?

Norway 16.8% of population (2017)
Sweden 24.1% of population (2017)
Finland 7.3% of population (2018)
Iceland 14.1% of population (2019)

Also where those immigrants are from may make a difference (immigrants from other nordic countries would likely have similar living habits to the locals).

Just throwing the idea out there. I don't really know if 24% vs 16.8% is much of a big deal when it comes to transmission rates in a city or not bu tit sounds like it should be.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/13/2020 11:08 Comments || Top||

#19  #17 Not true. Compare Sweden, and say Denmark on worldometer. The reason you think Sweden finished because at their max they had 102+ deaths per day and now they have 1 or 2 (so you can't see it without placing the arrow). Whereas Danes' max was 20+ and now they've 1 or 2.
So they have the same death rates today. However, 621 Danes died in total vs. 5,770 Swedes.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 11:20 Comments || Top||

#20  Going back to school in these parts.

For math sake, rounding numbers, so say population Kansas is 3,000,000.

32,000 confirmed cases over 6 months. No data on how many tests performed, or a false-positive rate.

800 deaths chalked up to China Flu. No data on how many of them were compromised health wise. People are not in nursing homes on their own accord.


That is a 1% got infected rate.

Of those who tested positive, there was a 2.5% attributed mortality rate.

Finding the percentage of lost population puts the handy calculator into scientific notation.

Living wise, we are opposite of the NYC butthole lickers; free range if you will, but not as much as our neighbors to the south, Oklahoma.

So I ask again, how much more time do the models need so the data fits?

My short answer is one week, when the media makes every single kid who shows up at school and measures a higher than normal temperature gets considered a COVID casualty and the teacher union howls about possible mass casualty events.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 08/13/2020 11:20 Comments || Top||

#21  ^120+
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 11:21 Comments || Top||

#22  Early research has shown that immunity, even in those who were severely infected, can fade after a few weeks and there have been anecdotal examples of reinfection, but more research needs to be done.

How early? I thought I recalled something about impacts of exposure to the SARS virus (now SARS-1 because COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-2 virus) so I looked, and here is something about a small scale study (each leg <50) published in Nature a month ago:

Scientists Uncover Evidence That a Level of Pre-Existing COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2 Immunity Is Present in the General Population

[scitechdaily] Singapore scientists uncover SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in recovered COVID-19 and SARS patients, and in uninfected individuals.

  • Singapore study shows that SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells are present in all recovered COVID-19 patients.

  • These T cells were also found in all subjects who recovered from SARS 17 years ago, and in over 50% of both SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 uninfected individuals tested, suggesting that a level of pre-existing SARS-CoV-2 immunity is present in the general population.

  • Infection and exposure to coronaviruses induces long-lasting memory T cells, which could help in the management of the current pandemic.
  • Posted by: trailing wife || 08/13/2020 11:43 Comments || Top||

    #23  Disenchanted readers may request a prorated reimbursement of their subscription fee from the Rantburg store.
    Posted by: Skidmark || 08/13/2020 11:47 Comments || Top||

    #24  Is that suggesting that continuous exposure, rather than isolation, is the more effective move?

    Perhaps an active immune system and a good attitude is akin to lifting weights and running before playing the football season?
    Posted by: swksvolFF || 08/13/2020 11:50 Comments || Top||

    #25  Scientists Uncover Evidence That a Level of Pre-Existing COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2 Immunity Is Present in the General Population

    Fat lot of good did it do to the 750,000 covid dead (as of today).
    Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 12:09 Comments || Top||

    #26  If immunity fades after a few months, and vaccines are unlikely to be very effective, and herd immunity is not possible, then what's the point of the restrictions? Those who will die will die, but after a year or two in isolation and accompanied by millions of others killed by depression effects and economic implosion.
    Posted by: Glenmore || 08/13/2020 12:39 Comments || Top||

    #27  At this point I don't see how you can have draconian rules around COVID - "because, the deaths!" and not also:

    Outlaw tobacco and alcohol.
    Install draconian sanctions on obese people.
    Outlaw driving / riding anything you can fall from and sustain a fatal head injury.
    Strenuous sports.
    Flying, commercially or otherwise.
    Etc.
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/13/2020 12:53 Comments || Top||

    #28  And I can't wait to see the vaccine "requirement" contain an enormous exception for muzz.
    Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/13/2020 12:57 Comments || Top||

    #29  #26 - 28 (a) We will have a vaccine in a few years (the necessary understanding of immunological theory already exists).
    (b) Till then, we have passive vaccines - the article I posted here a few days ago.

    Until then, you'll have to wear a mask when going into public places - like wearing a condom when you engage in extra pair copulation. Or wearing a seat belt when you drive.

    Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 13:20 Comments || Top||

    #30  I'll bet good money that Sweden like the UK has at least 5 times the number of normal Flu deaths than Covid deaths.

    PLUS I'll bet that it continues that the average age at death of a Covid case is higher than average life expectancy.
    Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/13/2020 14:09 Comments || Top||

    #31  Must have a lot of blacks in Sweden then. Aren't black Americans "disproportionately" affected with COVID-19?
    Posted by: Clem || 08/13/2020 14:17 Comments || Top||

    #32  Nice of Grom to agree that lockdown didnt do any good.
    Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/13/2020 14:32 Comments || Top||

    #33  Nice of Grom to agree that lockdown didnt do any good.

    ????????????????
    Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/13/2020 15:11 Comments || Top||

    #34  If a point is belabored long enough and often enough, it loses its edge and becomes a blunt finger poking others in the chest. The point and its deliverer become pointless. An irritant for irritation's sake.
    Posted by: JHH || 08/13/2020 16:41 Comments || Top||

    #35  Why, even you, and especially you, can be part of the Masquerade!

    Or mask parade? Take it from no greater authority than Tom Hanks, who has just done his tiktok lecture shame for the safety dance - stay home, wear a mask, don't go to church, whatever.

    You know, this shit tit who have been jet setting around for the last 8 months, with a current jaunt to Beautiful Greece.

    On that note, radio commercial pissed me off. Big Insurance making cute commercials quips. Sound fades in, busy noise, hear a lady call for so-and-so, party of whatever. Obviously, it is a restaurant so busy there is a wait. Its noise, people talking, glasses clanking, busy place not a fast food joint.

    The joke: "Big Insurance brings you, sounds from the past."

    Fug that. Sounds of the past? Not, sounds of the future. Wisconsin Government, you must voluntarily comply to wear a mask while teleconferencing? Or else? Lame and stupid at the same time.
    Posted by: swksvolFF || 08/13/2020 17:15 Comments || Top||

    #36  Swedes, nuff said.
    Posted by: Woodrow || 08/13/2020 22:48 Comments || Top||



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