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16 officers killed,16 wounded in an attack in Xinjiang
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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Ohio inmate says he's too fat for execution
COLUMBUS, Ohio - A death row inmate scheduled for execution says he's too fat to be put to death, claiming executioners would have trouble finding his veins and that his weight could diminish the effectiveness of one of the lethal injection drugs.
Hang him with a piece of piano wire. The excess weight will probably speed up the process...
Lawyers for Richard Cooey argue in a federal lawsuit that Cooey -- 5-feet-7 and 267 pounds -- had poor veins when he faced execution five years ago and the problem has been worsened by weight gain.
...and if that don't work, he'll be retarded.
The lawsuit, filed Friday in federal court, also says prison officials have had difficulty drawing blood from Cooey for medical procedures.
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Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2008 16:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Here's our chance to appease the eco-whackies: Feed him to the polar bears.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2008 16:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Put him on a starvation diet for a few weeks before hand and see if htat helps. The fact that he'll be miserable is a plus.

If that fails I'm sure we can think of something else.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2008 17:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Start giving him Clenbuterol and T3 every day. In 4 months he'll be ready to rock and roll. So to speak. That stuff makes you lose weight even if you sit on the couch all day.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 17:25 Comments || Top||

#4  I think one of the best French contribution to civilization should be used in cases like this.

Paging Dr. Guillotine. Dr Joseph Guillotine!

However, debate rages over whether the quickness of the execution was humane or not, as many doctors put forward the notion that it could take up to 30 seconds before the victim lost consciousness.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2008 17:35 Comments || Top||

#5  The guy shouldn't have raped and killed the two young women. You could put this guy on a Canada Greyhound bus with the crazy chinaman (Vince "Badger" Weiguang Li) with his hunting knife. Or you could fry him first and then give him a lethal injection. Or there is Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, and NutriSystem to get him ready--no need for a law suit.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/04/2008 18:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Remove legs and then weigh him back in. I am sure he will make 'killing' weight no problem.
Posted by: airandee || 08/04/2008 19:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Fat people die all the time. He's nothing special.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2008 19:16 Comments || Top||

#8  This POS deserves no special consideration. The families of those two young girls have lived with the horror of what he did for more than 20 years. Any suffering he does while he leaves this mortal coil isn't a drop in the ocean compared to what he's caused, or what he deserves. What would be completely fair would be to execute him in the same way he did his victims--after first having him brutally beaten and raped.
Posted by: Hupiling the Galactic Hero1106 || 08/04/2008 19:24 Comments || Top||

#9  A half dozen 12 Gauge shotgun slugs transiting his body at high velocity WILL take care of the issue. Or if he wants a more interesting death, stand him in front of an M1 and shoot him with a canister round.

Course, my preference would be to drop him in a vat of molten glass and then put the block on display in the town square.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 08/04/2008 19:32 Comments || Top||

#10  A stout hemp rope was good enough in our grandparents' day...
Posted by: john frum || 08/04/2008 19:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Yeah, right, pal. I know a lady of my acquaintance who ballooned up while pregnant to about the same proportions as this guy (5'8", 275 lbs).

If they could figure out how to anesthetize her for a c-section, I think they can figure out how to get this lardass ready for his special day.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 08/04/2008 21:12 Comments || Top||


Supercop or loose cannon?
In other cities, a police officer who's shot 11 suspects and killed five of them might be called a RAB member menace or a vigilante. Probes would be launched. Community groups might mobilize, demanding he be taken off the streets or cashiered out of the force entirely.

In Cleveland, he's a candidate for canonization.
Which upazila is that in?
That's because Jim Simone is as close to a household name as any police officer has ever been in any city. Here they call him a hero and a "supercop."
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Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2008 13:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Only killed 5 of 11 he shot? Needs more range time or a more powerful firearm.
Posted by: Menhaden S || 08/04/2008 15:38 Comments || Top||

#2  The overwhelming majority of police officers nationwide have never shot anyone in the line of duty, much less killed anyone. Simone's statistics put him in stratospheric — possibly unique — territory.

The majority of cops nationwide don't work in Cleveland.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2008 16:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Hate to ask but is he African-American? And if not has he ever shot an African-American?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2008 17:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Turns out he's a white guy.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/07/supercop_jim_simone_talks_abou.html
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2008 17:09 Comments || Top||

#5  I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the people he shot were black. I'd also be willing to bet that every one of them he shot deserved that and more.
Posted by: Hupiling the Galactic Hero1106 || 08/04/2008 19:35 Comments || Top||


CC Shoots AR In KC
A bank customer shot a robber after an armed confrontation in a Kansas City parking lot Saturday.

The robber was wounded in the head and was in stable condition at a hospital, police said.

The shooting happened about 9 a.m. when a man and a woman were in a car using the automated teller machine at the Bank of America at North Oak Trafficway and Barry Road.
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Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2008 11:33 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wounded? Back to the range with you buddy.
You hit 'em in the head they supposed to be dead.
Posted by: AlanC || 08/04/2008 13:55 Comments || Top||


Today's Idiot
Pickup thief loses truck to carjacker

SALINAS -- A pickup truck thief lost his purloined Chevy Silverado to an armed carjacker during a 7-Eleven stop. Police Cmdr. Kelly McMillin says "you couldn't make up something stranger than this."

Thirty-three-year-old Edward Bishop told police he stole the pickup Saturday then, while sitting outside a convenience store, a man with a gun hopped in and ordered him to start driving. The pickup ran out of gas and the gunman ordered Bishop to get out and push, but Bishop ran away and called police.
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Posted by: Frank G || 08/04/2008 10:07 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Police tape: Canada bus killer ate victim's flesh
A police officer at the scene of a grisly beheading on a Canadian bus reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim's body and eating them, according to a police tape leaked on the Internet Saturday.

In the tape of radio transmissions, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer refers to the attacker as "Badger" and says he is armed with a knife and scissors and is "defiling the body at the front of the bus as we speak."

On the tape, which lasts about 80 seconds, officers continue to detail the attacker's movements until one reports, "Badger's at the back of the bus, hacking off pieces and eating it."
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Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  HMMMMMM, CANADA + GREEL ISLAND + ZAWAHIRI BEING INJURED OR DEAD???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/04/2008 0:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Canada bus killer ate his victim's flesh

"Badger" Wouldn't Hurt a Fly... Awww Geee.. He's Nice As Can BE, That Fellow!

:(
Posted by: Red Dawg || 08/04/2008 1:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Makes putting up with the TSA BS at the airport just a wee bit more tolerable doesn't it. ;)
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/04/2008 8:50 Comments || Top||

#4  We caught this Zombie outbreak just in time.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/04/2008 9:25 Comments || Top||

#5  I can see the defense now. I'm innocent, "Badger" said. The "voices in my head told me to do it."
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/04/2008 9:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Was the killer a Hmong?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 10:47 Comments || Top||

#7  The voice in my head tells me to insert a shotgun in Badger's ass and blow him to hell.
Death by extreme cruelty would suit.
Posted by: wxjames || 08/04/2008 10:49 Comments || Top||

#8  You know how they say the Chinese will eat anything? Well, now we know it extends to the other white meat.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2008 12:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Windigo possession?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/04/2008 13:20 Comments || Top||

#10  During the Cultural Revolution, disgraced Communists were eaten in parts of Canton.

Soylent Green is:__________
Posted by: McZoid || 08/04/2008 19:30 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Obama vs. McCain . . . in the Soul Calibur IV videogame!
"Watched over by the Electoral College, they unleash their fury."

"This is a Democratic year! You cannot defeat me!"

"I'm going to start drilling--right through your head!"
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Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2008 14:12 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In a case of art imitating life, the game is being panned for lack of interest and boring characterrs.
Posted by: Tyranysaurus Jeanter1383 || 08/04/2008 18:04 Comments || Top||


Morgan Freeman Injured in Car Accident - Airlifted in serious condition
Actor Morgan Freeman was injured in a car accident in Mississippi on Monday, TMZ.com reported.

The accident occurred around 11:30 p.m. near the small town of Ruleville. Freeman, 71, was airlifted from the scene to a hospital in Memphis, Tenn. The "Dark Knight" star was accompanied by an unknown female, TMZ reported. Her condition is unknown.

MyFoxMemphis spoke to Bill Luckett, Freeman's friend and business partner, who said that the actor was sitting up and talking.
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Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 08/04/2008 12:31 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Damn!

Well get better fast and my hopes are with you, Mr. Freeman.
Posted by: DarthVader || 08/04/2008 13:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like one of those single car accidents. I wonder what happened.
Posted by: AlanC || 08/04/2008 13:54 Comments || Top||

#3  I hope he is well. He seems to be a genuinely great guy and he's a gifted actor.

Wonder how long until people start to talk about the Dark Knight curse.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2008 14:26 Comments || Top||

#4  When one person tried to snap a photo with a cell phone camera, Freeman joked, "no freebies, no freebies," McFerrin said.

Somewhere Ayn Rand is smiling. I think.
Posted by: AzCat || 08/04/2008 20:41 Comments || Top||


Economy So Bad, Even the Rich Are Skimping
The rich are sharing your financial pain - and contributing to it. It may have taken longer and it may not be as acute, but there are early hints that the economic slump is crimping the lifestyles of the wealthy.

They are investing more conservatively, spending less on luxury goods and are being more thrifty with their credit cards. Many are asking their personal shoppers and private-jet travel providers to seek the best deals rather than over-the-top extravagances.
Heaven forbid! I had no idea!

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Posted by: Bobby || 08/04/2008 05:56 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Haven't cut back yet on the RC Colas and Moon Pies, yet.
Posted by: badanov || 08/04/2008 6:41 Comments || Top||

#2  'Skimping' are they? Try and find a room for the week end in Highland, NC... without reservations.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/04/2008 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  To be sure, the poor and middle-class are being hurt more,..

Nope, the official line is 'women and minorities are being hurt more'. Where's one of those elite editors or layers of fact checkers when you need them?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/04/2008 8:54 Comments || Top||

#4  They are investing more conservatively, spending less on luxury goods and are being more thrifty with their credit cards. Many are asking their personal shoppers and private-jet travel providers to seek the best deals rather than over-the-top extravagances.

Asking their personal shoppers to buy store brands. Giving up Pâté de foie gras? Getting their carbon credits in order.

I guess they haven't got to the point where they are deciding between gas and food!
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/04/2008 9:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Gee, I had no idea they were suffering so.
Better get right on a stimulus package for the top 5%.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 10:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Joseph DiRenzo, a married 38-year-old father of three who left a hedge fund two years ago to enter commercial real estate.

Not enough greed in the hedge fund industry, Joe? Decide to go big time? Geez, too bad you got fucked...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2008 10:32 Comments || Top||

#7  From NW MI, last week the marinas along the Lake Michigan shoreline were nearly full, however very few of the motor craft left the docks of most of them, being used as vacation cottages instead. Moving craft were either personal watercraft or sailboats. In one marina I actually saw a fellow leave his boat, carrying an empty 5-gal gas can up the hill to the local gas station, to save a few cents on fuel.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/04/2008 13:19 Comments || Top||

#8  I wonder if Mr DiRenzo has considered a short sale of his McMansion. ;)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 08/04/2008 16:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Target rich environment -

"People are examining, 'Do you keep the yacht, do you go to the classic car auction, do you take the private jet?'" said Joseph Montgomery, managing director of investments at Wachovia Securities. "Those sound like nice problems to have, but at the same time, they are issues."
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/04/2008 16:09 Comments || Top||

#10  Um, 6 bedrooms and 7 full bathrooms? What the hell kinda' house needs more bathrooms than it has bedrooms (my current one is 3 bedroom/2 bath, my future one is 4 bedroom/2 bath (in Oklahoma - 59 days and counting)).

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 08/04/2008 17:23 Comments || Top||

#11  Hearty congratulations on your new acquisition, FOTSGreg dear.!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2008 18:58 Comments || Top||

#12  Jeebus, have you seen the price of arugala these days? And caviar is waaay out there!
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/04/2008 19:10 Comments || Top||

#13  What the hell kinda' house needs more bathrooms than it has bedrooms ...?

You obviously don't live with women. ;)
Posted by: AzCat || 08/04/2008 20:38 Comments || Top||


Weekly World News blog!


The most trusted name in major media is back, now in blog format!

It's a sensation!
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Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2008 04:18 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bat Boy! We missed you, bro!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2008 9:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Pretty lame stories. Not a patch on the real WWW.

That makes me pig-bitin' mad!
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2008 14:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Ya gotta register to get Ed Anger's thought provoking commentary...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2008 14:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Pretty lame stories. Not a patch on the real WWW.

In retrospect I shouldn't have eaten quite so many of their best reporters, but I wanted to be able to sleep without some idiot with a strobe flash setting it off outside my bedroom window.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 15:00 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudi judge 'busted with hash'
A SAUDI judge who served as head of an Islamic court has reportedly been arrested in the Gulf emirate of Dubai on charges of possessing and using drugs.

Hamad Salim bin Naif, who served as head of a sharia court in Saudi Arabia, was arrested along with his Moroccan wife after police raided their room in a Dubai hotel on Friday and found four grams of hashish in his possession, the Khaleej Times reported.

The judge confessed that he and his wife take drugs and said he brought the confiscated hashish from Saudi Arabia for their personal use, the English-language newspaper reported, citing a Dubai police source.
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Posted by: tipper || 08/04/2008 14:45 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Four years in prison is the usual sentence for possession

Why am I thinking that they'll make an exception for this guy? Isn't hash a traditional arabic treat? Cant imagine it being illegal there, oh, wait, it could lead to fun, maybe even fornication, no wonder it's illegal.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 17:00 Comments || Top||

#2  No way this is about the hash. This is power politics; someone wanted the judge out of he way, but who? and why? and do we care?
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 08/04/2008 21:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Four grams ain't much.
Posted by: gromky || 08/04/2008 23:21 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Beijing's smog returns
Three days of blue skies have come to an abrupt end in Beijing, with China's capital again shrouded in smog just days out from the Olympics opening ceremony. The main Olympic Stadium is shrouded and visibility has dropped to less than a kilometre.

This is exactly what the organisers of the Olympics do not want and it will only raise their fears that these may come to be known as the "dirty Games".

China has taken drastic anti-pollution steps, such as closing factories surrounding Beijing and ordering half of the city's 3 million cars off the roads. It now looks like emergency measures flagged last week might have to be taken.
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Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao promised to maintain a clean, green and beautiful Beijing during and after the Olympic Games.

Careful, the locals may start to like it. Then what are you going to do? Closing the factories and restricting traffic does not sound like a permanent solution.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2008 1:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Painting the sky blue, ya say? You cannot cram for a clean environment, no matter what the top Politicos demand.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/04/2008 2:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Allowing the Chinese to have the Olympics will probably do more to diminish the Olympic spirit and credibility then doping, corruption and politics ever did. It only shows how out of touch with reality and world events the Olympic committee really is.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 08/04/2008 2:26 Comments || Top||

#4  many factory workers are out of work.
Sad all around.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2008 2:51 Comments || Top||

#5  the plan was to have political prisoners remove the pollution one molecule at a time

remarkably, there weren't enough political prisoners to make this work
Posted by: mhw || 08/04/2008 6:47 Comments || Top||

#6  It's sad when the Chinese government cares more about looking good to the outside world than it cares for the health of its own people.
Posted by: gromky || 08/04/2008 6:57 Comments || Top||

#7  So Nancy Pelosi is Chinese?
Posted by: Bobby || 08/04/2008 8:59 Comments || Top||

#8  Great news! Factories are running once again which means our Wal-Mart shortages will soon end.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/04/2008 9:00 Comments || Top||

#9  National Geographic had a remarkable issue on China in May 2008. Also, this week's Economist has some good articles about the Games' impact on freedom in China.
Posted by: mom || 08/04/2008 10:39 Comments || Top||

#10  Maybe they should have 'the One' over for a tour and a speak to 'clear the skies'...
Posted by: logi_cal || 08/04/2008 10:44 Comments || Top||

#11  So Nancy Pelosi is Chinese?

In that only [communist] party members way of getting and holding power.

However, the Chinese party has figured out to toss orthodoxy over the side of the boat, if it ends up alienating Ma and Pa Lee. The Chinese party doesn't need to please big donors, it already is corrupt enough to fund itself.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/04/2008 12:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Obama just an empty suit without teleprompter- The Obamessiah has no clothes
Telepromter goes out and you hear:

"Shimmy, shimmy cocoa pop! Shimmy, shimmy rock! Shimmy, shimmy cocoa pop! Shimmy, shimmy rock!

I met a girlfriend a triscuit! She said, a triscuit a biscuit! Ice cream, soda pop, vanilla on the top! Ooh,
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Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 08/04/2008 13:52 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is what the press has been actively hiding and glossing over for so long.

The press has failed to do its job in a democracy - informing the people of ALL the facts, not spinning them and ignoring them and trying to create a particular political outcome.

The question is, where is the check and balance for a rampantly partisan press?

Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2008 14:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Love how he throws audience members under the bus to cover his ineptitude.

He got heckled in Florida (I think) and fared equally bad in his response.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 08/04/2008 14:49 Comments || Top||

#3  The question is, where is the check and balance for a rampantly partisan press?

OS, you're writing it. Problem is, in a democracy you get the government you deserve, and too many Americans 'deserve' Obama.
Posted by: Menhaden S || 08/04/2008 15:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Menhaden S, you have an irritatingly unescapable logic on that point.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 17:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Tar and feathers could check that run away press.
Posted by: Hellfish || 08/04/2008 18:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Fooey on Candidate Obama's original proposition. The biggest thing in medicine here in Cincinnati is walk-in emergency care clinics. They handle everything from sniffles to broken bones -- everything, in fact, except real emergencies. Exactly the kind of thing those without regular medical care should be using. I'm quite sure his friends at the U of Chicago medical school can put him in touch with people who are doing that kind of thing in his area.

OldSpook, think back to the Superman and Spider Man comics of your youth. When exactly did the press disinterestedly present the entire truth of the matter rather than shade (or worse -- remember yellow journalism?) for pecuniary or political advantage?
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2008 19:09 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Anthrax Cover-Up, or Incompetence?
The suicide of Bruce Ivins, a prime suspect in the 2001 anthrax mail poisonings will certainly give the conspiracy jobbers something to wag their tongues about for a few days. But until a little more information becomes available, I would hold to the facts and not speculate too forcefully - yet.

There are certainly troubling aspects to the idea that the anthrax attacks were planned and carried out by an employee who works in a government lab. And the strange way the investigation was handled by the FBI and the Army leaves many questions unanswered.

There is also the timing of the attacks - so soon after 9/11 that at the time, it was easy to believe America was under attack by Islamic militiants on several fronts.
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Posted by: Bobby || 08/04/2008 06:28 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The money quote: It wasn't until FBI chief Mueller kicked out the agents heading the inquiry in 2006 and replaced them that movement towards Ivins began.
Once again, leadership matters even in huge overgrown bureaucracies like the FBI or the Federal gubmint.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/04/2008 13:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Troubling aspects indeed. "Conspiracy" or not, the bullshit flag must go down. He held a clearance, probably a DoD TS/SCI, and he was seeing a shrink and his USAMRIID supervisor and Security Manager did nothing to restrict his access? Was a 5 year security clearance Reriodic Re-investigation (PR) conducted during all of this? Did his position require a poly? If he was an FBI informant, did they poly him? Just a few questions yet unanswered.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/04/2008 14:14 Comments || Top||

#3  There is a loyalty code in policing. Generally, once a lead officer excludes a suspect, everyone else follows suit.

For those who are unaware, police are not directed toward solving crimes. They are driven to "Clearing" complaints. An unsolved crime is treated as "cleared" when it is "filed." The public is brainwashed by over-doses of hero cop tales on TV and movies. In reality, the work product of the average cop is about 2 convictions per month, but many more "clearances." The criminal justice system doesn't work. Buy a gun.
Posted by: McZoid || 08/04/2008 19:38 Comments || Top||

#4  The criminal justice system doesn't work. Buy a gun. Just how will a gun protect any of us from anthrax?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/04/2008 20:00 Comments || Top||

#5  As I commented in the other thread, there is an alarming tendency to force a conviction by bending the evidence to fit the selected "suspect", and to ignore any other routes once the main guy has been "chosen" by the lead (be it a prosecutor or detective).

Look at the Ramseys (Jon-Benet case), and many other injustices.

The FBI blew this - and nobody had the guts to question the initial Hatfield error.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2008 21:41 Comments || Top||


"Ex-Spook" Sez Anthrax Suspect Suicide a Cover-up
Not Scrappleface, but Democratic Underground.
His neighbors say that they knew that he was under surveillance because they parked the SV's (surveillance vehicles) in front of their houses on numerous occasions.

His was a classic "suicide op" in which the subject is surveilled OVERTLY. He is harassed until it drives him crazy. He is threatened with jail and prosecution like the Sword of Damacles was hanging over his head. He is "reminded" that if he goes to jail (and/or is executed) that his family will not receive any of his pension, insurance, retirement..... While his suicide probably voided any private insurance, his family will still not get benefits from the government.

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Posted by: Bobby || 08/04/2008 06:21 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually, I think this guy is on to something, although not quite the conclusion he might agree with: they want Ivins to be the fall guy because that way they don't have to deal with any unpleasant ramifications of it being a foreign government.

Saying Ivins did it lets the Tranzistocracy say all their natural suspicions about the case were fulfilled without really having to PROVE anything.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 9:17 Comments || Top||

#2  There are many questions worthy of being asked about this case. Not sure these *particular* questions are included, but the more I read about Dr. Ivins, the more questions are raised in my mind.

If his "psychologists" testimony is credible, we are very fortunate he missed his chance to go out in a "blaze of glory" by shooting all his coworkers.

But why didn't we hear anything about him before?
Posted by: Seafarious || 08/04/2008 9:18 Comments || Top||

#3  And I really wish I could tell ya to keep your powder dry, but all the legalized second amendment rapid-fire bazookas in the world won't save you from anthrax.

Kids, just do yourselves a favor, move away from any populated areas, and remember that keeping civilization running and artificial constructs like "Humanity" or "The United States" are someone else's problem. If They Don't Want To Survive there's nothing you can do to make them.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 9:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Sea, the questions that come to mind for me are: they spent the last seven years _starting_ with the assumption that it was done by someone at Ft. Detrick, and probalby the last five trying to prove Ivins did it. And they still weren't able to, although they were able to drive him around the bend.

There's a lot of big business and money riding on getting us to believe the anthrax attacks were done by either a lone nut working for the government or a government conspiracy, so as to save "the aristocracy" from the consequences of the US suddenly going to war with another pack of their pet totalitarians (say, a more inconvenient bunch than Saddam's Iraq, like Syria or the UAE).

They can talk about Conspiracy! on DU, but they forget that talk of Conspiracy! can cut both ways: Al Qaeda really _does_ exist, and there really are foreign governments hostile to not only the United States, but the continued existance of freedom in general on this planet.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 9:35 Comments || Top||

#5  They can talk about Conspiracy! on DU, but they forget that talk of Conspiracy! can cut both ways: Al Qaeda really _does_ exist, and there really are foreign governments hostile to not only the United States, but the continued existance of freedom in general on this planet.

AND they have allies here, whose main propaganda "line of attack" these days is to argue that the hostile foreign powers either don't exist or are insignificant.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 9:46 Comments || Top||

#6  These peopel are NUTS - and liars.

For example: there is an autopsy because it is legally required in all crimes, and yes, suicide is a crime.

How are we letting so many mentally ill paranoid people out on the streets?

Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2008 10:28 Comments || Top||

#7  "discrediting department" - are the people on DU so gullible that an obvious lie gets swallowed unquestioningly? This guy is no more of an "ex spook" than my parakeet is.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2008 10:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Interesting article in today's Frederick Post

Arthur O. Anderson, a medical doctor and scientist at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease at Fort Detrick, said Duley's description of Ivins doesn't match his impressions of a man with whom he worked for many years.

"The remaining allegations about murderous ideas and plans sound so foreign to me that in the absence of contemporaneously documented evidence I would have to consider them items of Ms. Duley's vivid imagination or information fed to her by the people she communicated with outside the therapeutic environment," Anderson wrote in an e-mail to the News-Post. "It is not at all surprising to me that a patient whose therapist is serving as a double agent 'therapist' and 'accuser' would become very angry with the therapist and might make some rather dramatic expressions of that anger."

The doctor and scientist paused briefly after being asked if he believes Ivins committed suicide.

"Oh, yeah," he said. "I think all of the circumstances put him in a place where he felt he had no place to go."

Anderson said he became aware in June that the FBI had taken items out of Ivins' lab.

"The FBI took all of the stored things in his lab freezer," Anderson said. "They basically destroyed his life's work. I think that's what upset him the most."

Anderson said it is "highly incomprehensible" to him that Ivins would be regarded as the perpetrator in this case simply because he had access to anthrax.

He said he last saw Ivins around July 6. Ivins told him the FBI was stalking him, following him everywhere, Anderson said.

"He was animated and appropriately concerned, but certainly not out of control."

Anderson does not believe Ivins is responsible for the 2001 anthrax deaths.

"Now that he can't defend himself against the allegations, this will play out the way it will play out," he said.

But he firmly believes it wasn't guilt that killed his colleague and friend.

"I think it was the sense of betrayal and complete abandonment by those around him," Anderson said. "He cared so much and had so much pride in the work he did -- I don't think he could handle that sense of abandonment."


There was an autopsy.

Maryland's chief medical examiner, Dr. David Fowler, confirmed Saturday that the cause of Ivins' death was found to be an overdose of acetaminophen, the active drug in Tylenol; and that it was ruled a suicide based on information from police and doctors, according to the AP.

Kimberly Thomas, a forensic examiner with the Maryland Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, would not comment Saturday on results from Ivins' autopsy or confirm Dr. Fowler's statement.


Curiouser and curiouser.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/04/2008 10:49 Comments || Top||

#9  This is why we should allow water boarding. Just get to the facts the most direct route. Scaring the crap outta the witnesses is of little harm and less concern.
Send in Joe Wilson.
Posted by: wxjames || 08/04/2008 10:57 Comments || Top||

#10  If we knew the witnesses were guilty, yeah.

But the first step in the process seems to have been getting this guy more or less fired and then bankrupting him with legal bills, all before he's ever actually charged with anything.

And unlike the ex-Guantanamo guy who went on to kill a couple housewives in his suicide bombing mission in Iraq, no rich Gulf Arabs were going to step forward to hire a big legal firm to handle all his problems for free.

Welcome to the Tranzitocracy.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 11:20 Comments || Top||

#11  A Tylenol overdose, no other substance? Riiiight....
Posted by: imoyaro || 08/04/2008 11:55 Comments || Top||

#12  A Tylenol overdose, no other substance?

Nothing else you can buy over the counter will kill you as surely as Tylenol -- but it is an awful, painful way to go.

Anyway, this whole thing has smacked of cover up since day one, though the DU hasn't any more idea of what actually happened than the rest of us.
Posted by: Iblis || 08/04/2008 12:24 Comments || Top||

#13  Acetaminophin overdose leads to fulminant hepatic necrosis -- liver failure. We see it at our ICU a few times a year, and it's almost always because of a suicide attempt.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2008 12:59 Comments || Top||

#14  I've heard the vast majority of suicide attempts using tylenol are successful.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 14:13 Comments || Top||

#15  Not Riiiight.... arrogant conspira-monger.
If you are going to try to promote dumb-ass conspiracy theories, at least attempt not to use lies and half-truths that can be rebutted on the spot.
It was prescription Tylenol with codeine. This is a prescription drug for good reason. If you believe otherwise, give us your reasons.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2008 15:13 Comments || Top||

#16  It must be pretty frustrating to conspira-dupes that they cannot feed their blighted egoes (and Alex Jones's bank account) by claiming that this was an inside job by sinister government agents; since the official story admits that it was, er, an inside job by a sinister government agent.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2008 15:18 Comments || Top||

#17  Actually, AC, you don't get it. They can now say they were vindicated by the official story.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 08/04/2008 15:28 Comments || Top||

#18  Suppose President McCain were to come out next January 21st and announce that the 9-11 attacks actually were an inside job engineered by Dick Cheney and Bush.
In that case, the conspiracy industry would suddenly shift to protraying the former demons-in-chief as innocent scapegoats.
They don't want answers of any kind, they want allegations and speculation.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2008 15:43 Comments || Top||

#19  End this conspiracy bullshit now:

Researchers looked at samples of cells from the victims to identify the kind of anthrax Ames strain that killed them, a government scientist said Monday. They noticed very subtle differences in the DNA of the strain used in the attacks than in other types of Ames anthrax.

Spores taken from envelopes used to mail the anthrax, as well as from the sites where they were sent, were also scrutinized.

With that, investigators linked the specific type of anthrax back to Ivins' biological weapons lab at Ft. Detrick in Frederick, Md., where he oversaw its use and handling for research.

"It had to do with the very specific characteristics in the DNA of the letters and what was in Bruce's labs," said the government scientist who is close to the investigation. "They were cultures he was personally responsible for."


So, contrary to the conspiracy idiots, there was physical evidence, there was an autopsy.

NO CONSPIRACY. None.

Sheesh, people are so fecking gullible - and like I said, that "ex spook" simply was lying.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2008 16:28 Comments || Top||

#20  Mike Nifong.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/04/2008 18:34 Comments || Top||

#21  Move along, nothing to see here.
Posted by: Halliburton JFK / Moon Landing Division || 08/04/2008 20:36 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Nearly 150 Die in Stampede at Indian Temple
Nearly 150 pilgrims, many of them children, were trampled to death on a hillside in northern India on Sunday, after rumors of a landslide fueled a stampede, local officials said.

Thousands of Hindu pilgrims had traveled to Naina Devi, a hilltop temple in the state of Himachal Pradesh, for a festival celebrating the Hindu mother goddess.

Heavy rains in the morning led many to leave the serpentine lines on the hillside to take cover in a shelter, local officials said. Visitors said large stones began sliding down the hillside in the late morning, leading to panic in the crowd.
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#1  I have to say, I enjoy living as much as anyone and avoid death with great enthusiasm. But I don't think I have it in me to run over the top of children to do it. Now if its the Grand Opening of a new Ikea...
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 10:44 Comments || Top||


Tori tribesmen announce ceasefire in Kurram Agency
PARACHINAR: The Tori tribesmen of Kurram Agency on Sunday announced a unilateral ceasefire ahead of a deadline by the political administration to the warring tribes to end their clashes.

Dozens of people have been killed and scores injured during clashes between rival Mangal and Tori tribesmen in Kurram Agency during last five months. Tori tribe elders Ali Akbar Tori, Haji Ahmed Hussain and Haji Gulfam Hussain announced the ceasefire during a press conference. They assured the political administration that they would co-operate with the government. They also presented several demands for restoration of peace in the agency.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Five die as rival families exchange fire in Wazoo
Five people were killed and another two wounded in exchange of fire late on Sunday between two rival groups in the North Waziristan Agency, sources said. The sources said that members of two families quarrelled in Darpakhel area, six kilometres south of Miranshah, leading to the deaths that included three from one family. The injured were rushed to Agency Headquarters Hospital at Miranshah where condition of one person is said to be serious. Local tribal elders arrived on the scene and arranged a ceasefire between the families, the sources said.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Science & Technology
proposed warp drive engine.
If the 11th dimension could be shrunk behind the ship it would create a bubble of dark energy, the same dark energy that is causing the universe to speed up as time goes on. Expanding the 11th dimension in front of the ship would eventually cause it to decrease, although two separate steps are required.

Exactly how the 11th dimension would be expanded and shrunk is still unknown.

"These calculations are based on some arbitrary advance in technology or some alien technology that would let us manipulate the extra dimension," said Cleaver.
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Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2008 16:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Warp speed, Mr. Sulu!
Posted by: DarthVader || 08/04/2008 16:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh great, research possibilities, just what the human race has been waiting for.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2008 16:56 Comments || Top||

#3  There are two ways to approach a concept like this. The first that most people think of is "God from a machine" (Deus ex machina), a "faster than light spaceship". But it is generally more practical to be "Using the machine of God" (Usura apparata Deus).

Think aircraft and the jet stream. Flying against the jet stream using engine power at full thrust, you will get to where you are going, even if it takes ten times as long; but if you are flying with the jet stream, you use minimal engine power, because the air current does most of the work.

At this very moment, each of us are hurtling around the universe at high speed, in all sorts of different vectors. If we could just stop moving, in a short period of time we would be millions of miles away from where our relative position in space had traveled.

If you could just cancel, neutralize, one or more of these vectors, you might be able to have the universe, or the galaxy, move around you as you stand still.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2008 17:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Cosmic Rays are the engine signatures of these vehicles!

;)
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/04/2008 20:25 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm still struggling with 4 dimensions. Damn gravity and the ravages of time.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2008 20:31 Comments || Top||

#6  GUAM-WESTPAC's got the [Proto = "Baby"?] WORMHOLES > just gotta learn to make 'em bigger and above all controlled vv time-space = warp travel.

ABANDONED CHARDASSIAN SPACE STATION WANTED FOR RENT - SOLID SAVE FOR A FEW MILYUHN MINOR KLINGON PHASER AND PHOTON TORPEDO DENTS. GREEN ORION SLAVE BABES INCLUDED AS STAFF. Contact INTERSTELLAR REALTY, NEW NEW YORK.

SOLYENT BIG MACS + SOLYENT PIZZAS NOT PREFERRED.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/04/2008 22:41 Comments || Top||


NASA confirms lake of liquid hydrocarbons on Titan. Makes Saudi reserves look puny.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2008 16:03 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Calling spaceship Nostromo...
Posted by: Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator || 08/04/2008 19:06 Comments || Top||

#2  The Puppet Masters
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/04/2008 19:16 Comments || Top||

#3  So near & yet so far.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/04/2008 20:06 Comments || Top||



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