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| Tirade against Islam dismays Dutch Muslims |
| 2003-01-29 |
| The Netherlands' one million-strong Muslim community has become embroiled in a furious row over free speech after its chief critic - a woman MP who has been dubbed the Dutch Salman Rushdie - called the prophet Mohammed a "perverse tyrant". Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a 33-year-old Somali-born immigrant to the Netherlands and a former Muslim, has received death threats and been forced to flee the country in the past because of her outspoken criticism of Islam, but her latest outburst threatens to dwarf previous rows. Writing in the daily Trouw newspaper, Ms Ali, who was recently elected an MP for the VVD liberal party and is constantly accompanied by bodyguards, said that, by western standards, Mohammed was a perverse man and a tyrant. Adding insult to injury she also said that the seventh century prophet reminded her of "all those megalomaniac leaders in the Middle East: Bin Laden, Khomeini and Saddam". Mohammed's attitude had, she said, been "do it my way or there'll be trouble" and modern Muslim politicians were no different. Now you've done it! "Mohammed says that women must stay at home, wear a veil, cannot take part in certain activities, do not have the same inheritance rights as their husbands and can be stoned to death if they commit adultery," she wrote. "I want to show people that there is also another reality than the 'truth' that is spread all over the world with Saudi money." This may be the only way you will see "Truth" and "Saudi money" in the same sentence. Dutch Muslims have barely been able to conceal their anger. Her comments have been called "blasphemous" and "unacceptable" by an umbrella organisation of Dutch mosques and there have been calls for her to be barred from public office. And stoned, don't forget the stoning! Acting on complaints from Muslims, the Amsterdam public prosecutor's office has also initiated an official investigation into her outburst to see whether she is guilty of inciting hatred against Muslims. A ruling is expected within weeks. Ironically the same laws have been cited in past, unsuccessful, attempts to prosecute imams for preaching hatred against gays, Israel and the US. Ms Ali's political party has also come under serious pressure to distance itself from her comments and its leader, Gerrit Zalm, has tried to do just that. Her remarks were, he said, personal and did not represent party policy. "The VVD has no standpoint on Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha," he said. Trouw, the newspaper which ran the offending story in the first place, remains unrepentant. "In the 1960s and the 1970s we had similar criticism about Christianity and everyone got used to it and now Islam has become a target," said Koert Van der Velde, a religious affairs specialist on the paper. Ah, but Christianity isn't a religion of peace.....Oh wait.. "In the short term Muslims will get angry and shout and say it damages integration but I think it will be good for integration in the long term and everyone will get used to it." But the country's Muslims see things differently. Christians haven't killed people for criticising them for a couple hundred years now. Although they say they are anxious not to undermine the freedom of speech traditionally enjoyed by the Dutch they believe that Ms Ali has gone too far this time. "As a member of parliament and as someone involved in promoting integration she should not be making these remarks," Yassin Hartog, a spokesman for Islam and Citizenship, the country's main Muslim lobby, said. "Her remarks were blasphemous and have been received with a great deal of pain by the Muslim community. She has crossed a line and this is where we want to draw the line." Freedom of speech is one thing for an ordinary citizen, he added, but MPs should not be allowed to say exactly what they wanted in public. Wrong, Yassin. That's what makes us who we are! Ms Ali, a self-styled champion of Muslim women's rights, has angered Muslim clerics in the past by claiming that orthodox Muslim men frequently indulge in domestic violence against women, as well as incest and child abuse. Ms Ali, make sure you have real good bodyguards. Take care and keep up the fight. |
| Posted by:Steve |
| #7 So the Dutch authorities are going to investigate whether a Muslim woman is inciting hatred against Muslims. Did I read that right? Or are the 'Yurp-peons getting downright loopy? |
| Posted by: Steve White 2003-01-29 22:59:16 |
| #6 paj --- that is why they do not fit into modern secular western societies. "He that has the golden crayon draws the lines." Fatwas and death threats add emphasis to their points. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2003-01-29 18:52:21 |
| #5 mojo - Apparently they have no problem with ex post facto laws. What fascinates me is how they think they have the right to draw the lines everyone else has to avoid crossing. |
| Posted by: paj 2003-01-29 16:08:37 |
| #4 The VVD has no standpoint on Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha LMAO That should be printed on their brochures from now on. For the record, I do have a standpoint on Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha. BTW I feel sorry for Mohammed, he's not even here to defend himself. |
| Posted by: Rw 2003-01-29 16:03:42 |
| #3 "Her remarks were blasphemous and have been received with a great deal of pain by the Muslim community. She has crossed a line and this is where we want to draw the line." I'm confused - you want to draw a line she's already crossed? Isn't that sort of a "horse <--> barn door" situation? Or are you just a babbling idiot? Oh.... |
| Posted by: mojo 2003-01-29 15:10:22 |
| #2 A "former Muslim"? Didn't know that was allowed. How many "fatwas" does she have on her ass? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2003-01-29 14:30:07 |
| #1 This is the beginning of the Battle for Europe. Will it insidiously become an infiltrated theocracy, or will it become a land of freedom, tolerance and respect. I hope that Ms. Ali does better than the writer in the NWFP in her goals. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2003-01-29 14:19:15 |