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| Muslims Lament Israel’s Existence |
| 2003-06-03 |
| PARIS If the American threat of preemptive military action against Iraq inflamed the Muslim world over the winter, the war itself fanned the flames, with a sharp new rise in hostility toward the United States, the latest Pew survey has found. Animosity is so high that solid majorities in five populations surveyed expressed confidence in Osama bin Laden to "do the right thing" in world affairs. By that I don't think they mean decompose naturally And, at a time when the Israeli government has accepted the right of Palestinians to statehood, most Muslim populations surveyed believe by wide margins that the needs of Palestinians cannot be met so long as the state of Israel exists. Sounds bad - maybe they need some more rubbing of their self-esteem and manhood in the dirt The poll, conducted by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, surveyed more than 15,000 people in May. Muslim populations included were Indonesia, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Palestinian Authority and Turkey. Not Saudi? The survey shows that negative attitudes among Muslims toward the United States have soared anew since the war, both in the Middle East and beyond. Anti-Americanism peaked in Jordan, where 99 percent of the people now have a somewhat or very unfavorable opinion of the United States, up from 75 percent last summer, the survey found. Hostility was also extremely high in the Palestinian Authority (98 percent). More than eight out of 10 in Turkey and Pakistan questioned since the war have a negative view of the United States, as do seven out of 10 in Lebanon and two-thirds in Morocco. The most extreme shift was seen in Indonesia, where 61 percent had a favorable opinion last summer but now only 15 percent do. Steven Simon, an analyst of Muslim affairs with the Rand Corporation, said the about-face in Indonesia could be explained by "a rising sense of Islamic identity of a kind that is new" for that country. Part of this new self-perception, he said, is tied to the return of people who went through the Islamic fundamentalist camps in Afghanistan and became radicalized there. "The way they see the United States as having acted in the last couple of years confirms views like, 'The United States is evil, the United States wants to devour the Muslim world.'" As for the spike in hostility in Jordan, he said, the war in Iraq was "colossally unpopular" there and heightened the resentment of the country's largely Palestinian population, who already saw U.S. policies in the Middle East as "helping to perpetuate a situation that is grossly unfair to Palestinians." Even in Nigeria, traditionally a friend of the United States, favorable opinion sank to 61 percent after the war from 77 percent last summer. Several Muslim populations also express strong dislike of Americans as people. Nine out of 10 Palestinians, eight out of 10 Jordanians and 60 percent of Turks say they feel somewhat or very unfavorable toward Americans. The rise is sharpest in Jordan, where fewer than half had a negative view last summer. Still, among Muslims with an unfavorable view of the United States, most put the onus on President George W. Bush - who has included two Muslim countries in his "axis of evil" and has focused his war on terror on the Islamic world - rather than America in general. Distrust today blazes so brightly that majorities in seven of eight Muslim populations surveyed - Turkey, Indonesia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Lebanon, Jordan and Kuwait - expressed fears that the United States could become a military threat to their country. In Morocco, 79 percent said they felt Islam was under serious threat today, and people in other countries largely agreed, in many cases far more strongly than last summer. In Pakistan, for example, 64 percent now say Islam is seriously threatened, up from 28 percent in summer 2002. The threat is perceived most sharply in Jordan, by 97 percent, up from 81 percent last summer. Perhaps as a consequence, bin Laden was one of the three "leaders" most trusted by the nine Muslim populations surveyed, outranking even the UN secretary-general, Kofi Annan. The Qaeda leader's confidence rating was matched only by Yasser Arafat, leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization, and Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. As for the crisis in the Middle East, in a wave of sentiment that bodes ill for the future of the U.S.-sponsored "road map" to peace, Muslims lined up strongly behind the opinion that "the rights and needs of the Palestinian people cannot be taken care of as long as the state of Israel exists." The conviction that no way can be found for Israel and the Palestinians to coexist is strongest in Morocco (90 percent), followed by Jordan (85 percent), the Palestinian Authority (80 percent), Kuwait (72 percent), Lebanon (65 percent), Indonesia (58 percent) and Pakistan (57 percent). Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who chairs the Pew project, called these results "very disheartening, and very dangerous, frankly." "I hope that this is temporary and that, if there are some improvements in the situation because of the peace process, it will change," she said. "There is no way Israel is going to disappear. We will just have to find some way to mitigate those feelings." Even beyond the Muslim world, the United States is seen as favoring Israel over the Palestinians unfairly. Those sharing this attitude range from 99 percent in Jordan to a surprising 47 percent in Israel itself. Only in the United States does a plurality say that U.S. policies in the Middle East are fair. Overall, Muslim populations see U.S. policies as destabilizing the Middle East, as do pluralities in many other countries surveyed. Nearly 50 percent take this view in France and Spain, as do 63 percent in Morocco, 74 percent in Indonesia, and 91 percent in Jordan. Regarding the U.S.-led war, disappointment was widespread among Muslims that Iraq put up so little resistance. More than 70 percent shared this view in Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan, Lebanon, Jordan, Morocco and the Palestinian Authority. The notable exception was Kuwait, which was invaded by Iraq in 1990 and where 61 percent said they were happy Iraq did not put up much of a fight. Despite the animosity toward America, the survey found "a considerable appetite in the Muslim world for political freedoms," the Pew report says. In eight of the nine Muslim populations surveyed, at least 50 percent believe Western-style democracy can work in their countries. The exception is Indonesia, where 53 percent see democracy as a Western way of doing things that would not work in their country. International Herald Tribune Sorry to say, but if this continues we'll have a new slogan: Islam - the religion of sullen losers™ |
| Posted by:Frank G |
| #6 Thanks, TPF. I think that answers it. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2003-06-03 22:18:33 |
| #5 11A5S PEW GIVES A LOT TO NPR.... THAT HELP? |
| Posted by: TPF 2003-06-03 20:49:46 |
| #4 Does anyone know anything about the Pew Research Center? Politics, history, axes to grind? I've looked at their website and I get the impression that they are strongly linked to the Democrats since most of their research seems like it is designed to measure reaction the current themes I see being bandied about by Democratic operatives. They appear to have been around since 1990 in one form or another, yet I never heard of them until they started doing these opinion polls in the Muslim world. Finally, since when does an "objective" polling organization have a section labelled "commentary" on their website. Call me paranoid but I have big problems with any poll that comes up with 99% numbers on a question. You wouldn't get that kind of response to the question, "Does the sun rise in the east?" |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2003-06-03 16:45:43 |
| #3 Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who chairs the Pew project, called these results "very disheartening, and very dangerous, frankly.I hope that this is temporary and that, if there are some improvements in the situation because of the peace process, it will change," she said. There is no way Israel is going to disappear. We will just have to find some way to mitigate those feelings." Attitudes like that are what got us to the current situation in the first place, and the amazing Albright is one of the poster children for it. I know a way to "mitigate those feelings". Crush them like bugs and we won't have to worry about their feelings. Let THEM worry about pissing US off! |
| Posted by: tu3031 2003-06-03 16:37:48 |
| #2 "We hate you more today than yesterday, But not half as much as tomorrow..." |
| Posted by: Capsu78 2003-06-03 14:37:06 |
| #1 Yes, these countries have much to fear. As currently practiced, Islam is little more than theocratic dictatorship that seeks to perpetuate itself through coercion and violence - with the US and Israel as their prime targets. And, now that we are no longer simply sitting back and taking it (The Clinton Doctrine), they are expressing fear, distrust and animostiy. Waaaaaaaaah. The choice is theirs - they can stop with Islamofascist BS or wait their turn to play catch the MOAB. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2003-06-03 13:46:16 |