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Iraq
Troops in Iraq to Serve Up to a Year
2003-08-13
All troops in Iraq should expect to serve for at least a year, with brief rest breaks in the region and possibly a few days at home, the commander of U.S. forces said Tuesday. That came as news to some soldiers. "It’s a one-year rotation," Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez told The Associated Press in an interview. "Every soldier has been told that they’ll be deployed for a year, and then at the end of the year we’ll be working to send them home." But some of the 148,000 soldiers in Iraq said nobody told them how long they would remain in the country, where guerrillas attack Americans daily and high temperatures often top 120 degrees. Pfc. Deacon Finkle, 20, of Dallas, screwed up his face — red from the heat — when asked how long he would be in Iraq. "Don’t know. No idea," he said.
Willie.
Spc. Jeff Ross, perched atop a bridge overlooking Baghdad’s dangerous Airport Highway, knew he was scheduled to be in Iraq for a year, saying: "We really don’t have a choice." "A year’s going to be rough. It’s going to be a long haul," said Ross, 22, of Hillsboro, Ore. "But I think we can do it. If it cools off a little bit, it’ll be all right."
Joe.
The issue of soldiers’ tours has been contentious, with troops and their families posting missives on the Internet criticizing their government for keeping U.S. forces in Iraq. Some express concern about "mission creep," in which what begins as a swift war turns into a long-term occupation that could cause heavy American casualties as Iraqis become more and more skeptical of U.S. promises to let them govern themselves. "They need to come home!" Kimberly, the wife of a reservist deployed in February, wrote on the Web site of the support organization Military Families Speak Out. "Our unit has no redeployment date in sight, and we are constantly told that they may even be extended."
Things like that do happen in wartime...
Sanchez said commanders were working hard to make soldiers’ lives more bearable, and many soldiers said they were getting new creature comforts such as better food, more air conditioning and access to television and the Internet. "We’ve been doing a tremendous amount for them," Sanchez said in his office in Saddam Hussein’s former palace, a copy of former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani’s "Leadership" displayed on the bookshelf. He said soldiers were starting to get "outs" to rest camps inside Iraq to improve morale. "They get pulled off-line for two or three days and they get to rest in an environment that is essentially stress-free, as much as you can be inside of Iraq," he said. "They’ve got Internet, they’ll get TV, they’ll have air-conditioned space, they’ll get hot meals. In some places they have swimming pools, so we kind of get them to relax."
Kind of like Vung Tau used to be in Vietnam...
Sanchez also said 150 soldiers a day were being flown to the Persian Gulf state of Qatar for breaks, and that other R&R bases were planned for Jordan and Turkey. But on the Internet, some soldiers’ families criticized the vacations, saying commanders should instead work on getting the soldiers home for good. "My son-in-law has been in Iraq since March. ... He has been given orders that extend his stay until JULY 2004," reads a message signed "Bette" on the Web site of Military Families Speak Out. "His company just had a two-day vacation(?!) in Qatar. President Bush has just left for his MONTH-LONG vacation on his ranch in Crawford, Texas. Let’s send all of the troops to President Bush’s ranch and send the President to Iraq."
Gosh, Bette. Maybe would should just make Iraq an accompanied tour and ship you over there to keep your old man company. Then you can take your chances with him.
Sanchez also spoke of a proposal to give soldiers a "mid-tour break" to see their families. "The intent would be that between your fifth and 10th month of deployment you’d get 14 days of leave and be able to go home," Sanchez said, adding that he hoped the plan would be approved "within a couple of weeks."
Good idea if we can’t get them home for a while.
In Baghdad, some soldiers said life was slowly getting better. Sgt. 1st Class Charles Ragsdale, 34, of Atlanta, was guarding the Baghdad International Airport, which he said was becoming more livable. "The Army is doing a lot of things every day, every week, to improve the morale of the soldiers out here," he said. "They’re trying to get air conditioning. ... The chow’s getting better. There’s TV and movies. They’re doing the best they can."
Okay, Rantburg service vets: tell me, a non-mil person, if this works for you.
Posted by:Steve White

#9  Statistically speaking, more murders are commited at 92 degrees F than at any other temperature. Hotter than that you're too tired to go to the trouble, any cooler and you're not as grumpy.
Posted by: mojo   2003-8-13 3:53:58 PM  

#8  Slightly OT, but I found this report on the climate of Iraq. From this it seems to me that if the coalition can hold until the end of September, then the temperature will fall, along with electricity consumption and tempers. This will give over 6 months of relatively mild weather to get things sorted out.
Posted by: A   2003-8-13 3:19:09 PM  

#7  We're going to be in Iraq for a long, long time. The constant infiltration of foreign national boomers is a clear indication that this is the beginning of the final push - either we succeed in building peaceful, democratic nations, or we need to start preparing for an all-out war between Arab and Western civilizations.

I served my "tour" in Nam, and the one-year, mid-year R&R, and that wasn't a problem for me or my spouse (a former military dependent). I do agree, however, it's not a good situation for combat troops. I would suggest that combat formations be rotated as a group, most preferably at the platoon level. I also agree that our military has been cut too deeply, too fast. We need to reconstitute at least two, and possibly five more divisions. The world isn't going to become a better place just by wishing it to. We need to have the manpower available to not only rotate through Iraq, but to rapidly increase that presence significantly if outside forces threaten the stability we are trying to build.

We built complete divisions in months during WWII. There are enough core cadre available in the retired community and recent discharges to create at least one, and possibly two new divisions, with a 50-50 split of former military and new recruits. Such units could be ready for at least rotation duties within a year. We need to get started.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-8-13 1:02:12 PM  

#6  Surely Vietnam showed that it is better to have long terms troops that gain experience in the region rather then many that come and go.
Posted by: Bernardz   2003-8-13 10:49:02 AM  

#5  Korea was also 1 year (or more), based on a point system - more points for combat personnel. Also, since WWII the U.S. Army has been doing individual replacements. There has been talk recently of unit replacments. This might be a good time to implement that.
Posted by: Spot   2003-8-13 8:56:07 AM  

#4  1 year is a standard overseas short tour for unaccompanied troops. Been doing it in Korea forever. Midtour break is standard as well, lots of Korea troops meet the wife at the R&R facility in Hawaii. They could do the same here at the centers in Europe, if they don't need to fly all the way home.
Posted by: Steve   2003-8-13 8:47:10 AM  

#3  Its the best that can be done. And it appears to be as fast as it can be done. Look, wartime sucks, and I hope that most of the guys and many of their families realize that the only thing worse than this war is losing this war, letting Saddam get back in power, and having to fight another one in a generation or so.
Posted by: Ben   2003-8-13 7:20:08 AM  

#2  The interesting problem emerges if we can't recruit mercenaries, I mean peacekeepers, to spell our troops.

Trying to create two or three more divisions from scratch will not be pretty or cheap.
Posted by: Hiryu   2003-8-13 7:06:17 AM  

#1  One year is pretty standard for rotation through a combat zone, has been since 'Nam. And conditions are at about their worst now, will get better as fast as possible. But there's 30 years of Saddam and his hard boys, not to mention over a decade of serious embargo, to clean up after. Plus, there's the random bangers to deal with.

It won't be popular with the grunts in any case (what is, short of free booze and broads?) and reups will definitely drop. Look for an enlistment push in the media.
Posted by: mojo   2003-8-13 1:01:42 AM  

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