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Middle East
Israel vows ’all-out war’ on Hamas
2003-09-02
Israel declared "all-out war" against Hamas Monday and said it is freezing diplomatic relations with the Palestinian Authority unless the Palestinian leadership takes "tangible steps to deal with infrastructures of terror." ... Monday’s statement from Israel said it has adopted the following positions:
• "An all-out war against Hamas and other terrorist elements, including continuous strikes at the organization’s leaders";
• "Pressure on [focuses] of terror" in the West Bank; and
• A freezing of "the diplomatic process with the [Palestinian Authority] ... unless [Israel] sees that the PA is taking tangible steps to deal with the infrastructures of terror."
Since the Jerusalem bus bombing, the statement said, Israel had carried out "five targeted eliminations" of Hamas members and stepped up operational activities in the West Bank. "The security establishment is preparing for the possibility of a security escalation and renewed wave of terror against Israel," the statement said. CNN has been trying to contact Hamas officials for comment on the Israeli statement but has received no reaction.
stunned, are they?
More likely in hiding. "I'm sorry, sir. Mr. Rantissi is out of the office... No, I'm sorry. I don't know where he is..."
All three groups [Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades] are considered terrorist organizations by the U.S. State Department. They have all announced an end to their self-imposed cease-fire, blaming Israel’s targeted killings of Hamas militants before and after the bus bombing.
In my recollection it wasn’t the Israelis who broke the ceasefire. I guess flying 7.62mm rounds are part of the flora and fawna of the region, like mosquitos. Anyone unlucky to get stung by one of them, dies of natural causes. Funny how it only affects Israelis.
Posted by:Rafael

#12  OP---The sudden appearance of your 32 point headlines made me almost choke on my lunch......
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-9-2 8:11:05 PM  

#11  Old Patriot

Love that end of the world font.

Finally, go down into the Negev, to the most desolate spot you can find, and detonate a 20kt nuke in an underground 'test', just to let everybody know that good behavior is critical to continued breathing.

I quibble.... let 'em guess. Perhaps the Jooooooos got bombs that don't need testing? So well designed and of such excellent material that you wouldn't mind droping it next week? Something you'd be happy to show off? Something in a MIRV perhaps? Don't worry, we got your size.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-9-2 8:10:02 PM  

#10  very tricksy, raptor
Posted by: Frank G   2003-9-2 7:35:07 PM  

#9  Ahh,Palistine,my preciousssss.
Posted by: raptor   2003-9-2 6:49:16 PM  

#8  ABOUT DAMNED TIME!
The Israelis have been far more patient than I would have been. Following their victory in 1967, they could have easily forced every Arab from Israel. The so-called "occupied territories" were, in truth, occupied by Egyptian and Jordanian government troops until they were kicked out in 1967.

Israel needs to clean house now, and I mean totally. Leave not one Arab not currently an Israeli Arab in the entire "palestine" territory. Tell the people receiving them that they can either assimilate them or kill them, but there's no way in hell they're going to be allowed back in Israel. Capture the really tough cases, like Arafart and the people heading the other terrorist organizations, and hang them - right on the border, so everybody can come and look.

Finally, go down into the Negev, to the most desolate spot you can find, and detonate a 20kt nuke in an underground 'test', just to let everybody know that good behavior is critical to continued breathing.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-9-2 5:18:23 PM  

#7  Lucky---you hit the nail on the head. Hamas and friends are for the destruction of Israel. One does not negotiate with people bent upon your destruction---it is not good for one's health. I think GW and administration let this Roadmap run its natural course over a predicted cliff, not a mudhole, not a lake, but a big-assed cliff. Twenty Israeli civilians paid the price for this. The Israelis need to systematically pop the top of these terror organizations until they are destroyed. These organizations have been hiding under the skirts of the EU and middle eastern countries for too long. Now they AND the PA are becoming liabilities and even the Arabs will start dropping them like hot potatoes. Who knows, even Syria may someday realize that they are backing losers, but that is long odds.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-9-2 2:40:56 PM  

#6  That freaky character in 'The Two Towers' reminds me of the Paleos. The Palistinians need to become Jordanians and Egyptions again. A palistinian state would be a disaster for the world. All out war with Hamas is probably the best thing to happen but a wider conflict will be inevitable. The status quo is unexceptable. The Hamas objective of driving the Isrealies into the sea is not going to happen without total war. .com, I hope that in three or four months it will be very interesting. It would be a real drag if some new road map brings the world right back to the same damn crossroads. You know Egypt could end this farce today, shake hands with Israel and grow very prosperous. But they like that freaky character.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-9-2 1:06:26 PM  

#5  whoa whoa whoa ! Europe doesn't think these groups are terrorist organizations; why should Israel declare war? Chirac, get Sharon on the phone and straighten him out. He's over-reacting, trying to be all tough like those gun-crazy Texan cowboy unilateralist pre-emptive imperialist American occupiers.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-9-2 12:54:17 PM  

#4  Frank - You must've peeked at the abortion original... yep, a mish-mash disaster with that special Moron Press touch. Hey, Bro, it did come from Conjecture, Not News after all. Usually, once their "editor" finishes with a piece, I'll bet not even the "reporter" can recognize it. This post, thanks to terrific editing by Rafael, sticks to the point and makes sense!

Tom - agreed without reservation. To the finish, I hope. This has been on hold far too long.

One thing that I am very happy about is the lack of mixed or muddled messages coming from the admin. Every admin suffers this sort of mess in tough situations, including Dubya's in the past. This time, everyone is keeping their mouths shut, as they should.

NMM - Finally, the US isn't dictating or pressuring Israel to toe some insane line that no other country on the planet would be expected to follow. We are staying out of their way and they are taking care of business: eliminating the threats to their survival. If we continue to show good sense and STFU, the Israelis will reduce the terrorists to their lowest cadre soldiers - twits with an IQ on par with their hat sizes.

Notice that there is a great deal of interest in following through on their part of the "road map" by the Paleo talking heads - now that it's as dead as Trotsky. Funny shit, watching them - reminds me of the "dancing chicken" I saw as a kid at the State Fair of Texas. Cats on a hot tin roof comes to mind, as well. How about "I'm Dancing As Fast As I Can" - another fit. It's time for a new paradigm sans the professional mercs of Hamas, et al. Gonna be interesting a month or three down the "road" - don't you agree?
Posted by: .com   2003-9-2 9:30:15 AM  

#3  All out war would mean occupying the Gaza and killing the several thousand (maybe tens of thousands) of Hamas functionaries there. What is being done is much less.
Posted by: mhw   2003-9-2 9:06:23 AM  

#2  Apparently "all-out war" is what it takes, so have at it. Decapitate the terrorist-connected leadership over and over until there is none.
Posted by: Tom   2003-9-2 9:00:52 AM  

#1  would be nice if the reporter noted they announced the end of their ceasefire with flying body parts, shrapnel and dead civilians...or is that in dispute? Jeebus
Posted by: Frank G   2003-9-2 8:28:45 AM  

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