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Chirac lays out plan for Iraqi sovereignty
2003-09-23
President Jacques Chirac on Sunday called for the immediate transfer of sovereignty in Iraq to the Iraqi people and indicated that France would only approve a new United Nations resolution that recognized this need. In an hour-long interview at the Elysée Palace, Chirac for the first time laid out a two-stage plan for Iraqi self-rule involving first a symbolic transfer of sovereignty from American hands to the existing 25-member Iraqi Governing Council, followed by the gradual ceding of real power over the next six to nine months. The French president added that if the Security Council, France included, could agree on empowering Iraqis at once, France would be ready to train Iraqi police and soldiers - either in or out of Iraq. And Chirac, who opposed America's war in Iraq, said that although France had no intention of sending troops to participate in the American-led military occupation force, circumstances could change.

"There will be no concrete solution unless sovereignty is transferred to Iraq as quickly as possible," Chirac said, speaking just before he departed for New York, where he will meet with President George W. Bush on Tuesday. He called the administration of Iraq, an Arab and Muslim country, by a "governor who is Christian and foreign" dangerous and "a very difficult situation for any people to accept in the 21st century." As for the deployment of French combat troops to Iraq, Chirac said, "We are talking about training, and not sending troops to Iraq, of course."

But at another point, he was less categorical, saying, "As things are now, there is no situation where I can imagine that France would send troops to Iraq," adding, however, "Everything could change. I don't have a crystal ball. But for the moment, this is the position of France and the position of a number of countries." It is not clear whether Chirac intended to hold out the possibility of deploying French troops, however slight, as a means of negotiating a resolution more palatable to France. The United States has already ruled out any plan to strip the current American administrator of Iraq, L. Paul Bremer 3rd, of his power, saying that a hasty transition to Iraqis would be counterproductive and dangerous. Britain, America's main ally in the war, has expressed similar concerns.

The sharp divergence between the United States and France over the management of post-war Iraq reflects both the scars of a year-long conflict between two old allies and their profoundly different visions of the place of American power and the role of the United Nations in the world. Chirac made clear on Sunday that he did not intend to veto the pending U.S.-sponsored resolution unless it somehow became "provocative." "I have no intention of opposing the resolution, that is, saying 'no,' vetoing it," he said. "I am not in that mind-set at all." But France will vote in favor of the resolution only if it includes a precise deadline for the transfer of sovereignty, a timetable for the transfer of actual power and a "key role" for the UN, although he did not spell out what that would be, he said. Otherwise, he added, France will abstain.

Chirac's proposal suggested that it would be difficult for the two sides to agree on the wording of a resolution introduced this month by the Bush administration in an attempt to secure the United Nations blessing necessary to attract more foreign troops and more international funds to Iraq. While Chirac wants to get power in Iraq out of American hands at least symbolically by a transfer of sovereignty, the Bush administration argues that the Iraqis are not ready and that the only beneficiaries of a quick handover of any authority would be former Iraqi exiles who are politically active but enjoy little support among the Iraqi people. And whereas Chirac believes that the continued governance of Iraq by the United States will produce more violence and require a longer presence of foreign troops, the United States believes that the relinquishing of any authority will create more chaos. Still, Chirac seemed eager to appear conciliatory, saying twice said that whenever American soldiers are killed in Iraq, "It hurts us," and rejecting any suggestion that the aim of his proposal was to provoke the United States. "I want you to understand that I'm not saying 'white' because the Americans say 'black,'" he declared. Rather, he said, his goal was to engineer in Iraq a system similar to that already functioning in Afghanistan, where the Afghan leader, Hamid Karzai, has full sovereignty over the country, while the United States and its coalition partners keep the peace through the presence of their troops.

"I am not inventing anything extraordinary, as I have read somewhere, simply to annoy the United States," Chirac said of his ideas for what he described as an increasingly dangerous situation in Iraq. In an indication that France's negotiating position is fluid, Chirac refused to articulate a precise timetable for Iraqi self-rule except to say that sovereignty should be transferred as quickly as possible. Last week, however, Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin laid out a plan under which Iraq would establish a provisional government in a month, write a constitution by the end of the year and hold elections next spring, all under UN auspices. The U.S. secretary of state, Colin Powell, quickly dismissed de Villepin's proposal as "totally unrealistic."

Chirac is also seeking to avoid a repetition of the diplomatic fiasco in March, when he went on national television nine days before the war began to say that France would veto any United Nations resolution paving the way to war. That declaration contributed to Washington's failure to get a resolution justifying the war, damaged France's relationship with the Bush administration and sparked outrage among the American people. Even if France abstains, the United States is likely to receive the nine votes necessary to pass the resolution. Chirac said that France would be willing to provide financial support and military and police training for Iraq once sovereignty is transferred to the Iraqis.

Although Chirac was relaxed and spoke easily throughout most of the interview, the subject of post-war Iraq was so sensitive that he referred to type-written talking points highlighted in yellow when he spoke about it. Chirac took exception with the Bush administration's conviction that the overthrow of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein would provide the catalyst for the spread of peace and democracy in the Middle East. "I'd like to think so, but frankly, I don't believe so," he said, calling the war "traumatic for this region and culture." Despite his insistence on a quick, symbolic transfer of sovereignty to the Iraqis, Chirac stated paradoxically that elections had to be handled with care, because the majority of Iraqis belong to the Shiite branch of Islam. "Are the Shiites in this analysis the real symbol of tomorrow's democracy?" he asked. "It is not so obvious."

Chirac confessed that his own experience as an officer in France's colonial war in Algeria had influenced his thinking about Iraq, because it proved to him that a vast and powerful army could be defeated by a small group of determined adversaries convinced of the right to run their own country. "We know from experience that imposing a law on people from the outside hasn't worked for a long time," he said. The French president defended his position before the war that United Nations weapons inspectors should have been given more time to complete their work before war was waged. He noted that no weapons of mass destruction had been found inside Iraq, which the Bush administration used as the main justification for going to war. Chirac said that it was "absolutely not" wrong to overthrow Hussein, but added that he should have been overthrown "without a war."

Asked whether he had been tempted to tell Bush, "You were wrong," he replied, "On subjects as complex as this, it is always wrong to think that you are right and the other person is always necessarily wrong. This is a serious mistake and you always pay the consequences." Chirac defended his outburst last February when he berated Central and Eastern European countries poised to join the European Union for missing an opportunity to "keep quiet" when they signed letters supporting American policy in Iraq before the war. "I don't regret it; I should regret it, but I don't," he said, adding, "You can take your own position if you want to. That's not the problem. But at least warn us first so we don't look ridiculous." Such an approach, he said, is "not the way that Europe is made."

Chirac also defended the concept of a common European defense policy outside of the framework of the NATO alliance, a development that the United States strongly opposes. "There is nothing unpleasant about it for the Americans," he said. "It suggests ignorance of the way things are to imagine it would be against them." Chirac cited America's insistence that Europe take charge of keeping the peace in the Balkans, and said, "We can do this, but how? With a flute?"
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#19  Baba Yaga,

Before JFM jumps in, let me remind you that Vichy fought harder in comparative terms against us in N. Africa than it did against the German takeover of S. France in '42.
Posted by: Ernest Brown   2003-9-23 11:07:29 PM  

#18  Shipman, none of the above is worth one dead American ever again (not that I'm worried about the French actually putting up a defense, but one of the GI's might choke on a croissant in a Paris cafe or something like that).
Posted by: Baba Yaga   2003-9-23 9:34:28 PM  

#17  Hard questions.... Normandy? Brittany? The Rhone Valley? Or a standing start quicky thru Sedan?
Posted by: Shipman   2003-9-23 6:50:28 PM  

#16  Just follow the money.
Posted by: Matt   2003-9-23 6:39:05 PM  

#15  What!?

I said please, didn't I?...
Posted by: mojo   2003-9-23 6:12:24 PM  

#14  Yep Dan, the French army could crush the Principality of Monaco in less than 24 hours; the Republic of Andorra in a couple days....the list goes on..
Posted by: Not Mike Moore   2003-9-23 5:51:27 PM  

#13  post ww2 french army vast and powerful?? just a little wishful thinking
Posted by: Dan   2003-9-23 5:13:50 PM  

#12  In other news, the dog, the pig, and goose told the Little Red Hen where to go.
Posted by: Katz   2003-9-23 1:47:18 PM  

#11  Jacques Chiraq----Who elected you leader of this outfit??
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-9-23 1:34:50 PM  

#10  He called the administration of Iraq, an Arab and Muslim country, by a "governor who is Christian and foreign" dangerous and "a very difficult situation for any people to accept in the 21st century." Funny, but the most recent and extensive polling from Iraq suggests that given a choice between a Syrian, Egyptian, Iranian, Saudi, or American model of government, the overwhelming choice was an American model of Democracy. Roughly by about 81%. Even the Shiites preferred it over their own Inainian system. Tellingly, the only support for an Islamic state came from the Sunni/Baathists. Iraq is largly a secular state. Someone should tell that french guy.
Posted by: jak   2003-9-23 1:20:12 PM  

#9  I tried to construct a Venn Diagram to discern what Shitrack is after. Nobody else try this as the result was simular to playing a Led Zepplin album backwards. When researching French policy nobody should use a Oiji board alone either.
Posted by: Super Hose   2003-9-23 12:12:09 PM  

#8  Mojo-
Normally, I think that blunt profanity it counter productive. In this case, I can only agree. Keep that Mojo working.
Posted by: Highlander   2003-9-23 11:13:28 AM  

#7  P.S: And your mother too.

The USA
Posted by: Flaming Sword   2003-9-23 11:13:21 AM  

#6  Dear Jacques -

Please fuck off.

Thanks -

The USA
Posted by: mojo   2003-9-23 10:27:09 AM  

#5  A suggestion: disinter every single American soldier buried on French soil and return them home. That will send a clear, unambiguous message.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2003-9-23 10:24:27 AM  

#4  Who died and left Jack$$$ Chirac in charge? Why does he think he and he alone has the right to set conditions for Iraq? He didn't do anything but get in the way in removing Saddam. He and his "nation" have done nothing to aid in Iraq's rebuilding. He and the Phewrench have actively worked to make the job in Iraq more difficult. Now he wants to step in, take control from the "fumbling Americans" and "show us how it's done". The man should be 'dis'invited to the White House, and every dime we spend in Phewrance needs to be withheld or spent elsewhere. Tell the Phewrench to drink their wine and bottled water. Everything the Phewrench touches turns to dung - we don't need that in Iraq.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-9-23 10:02:43 AM  

#3  'Despite his insistence on a quick, symbolic transfer of sovereignty to the Iraqis, Chirac stated paradoxically that elections had to be handled with care, because the majority of Iraqis belong to the Shiite branch of Islam. "Are the Shiites in this analysis the real symbol of tomorrow's democracy?" he asked. "It is not so obvious." '

well nothings real obvious, is it? (Certainly not how to parse Chiracs sentences:)) Fact is, French policy is in a shambles. France is reduced to calling for the handing of power to Chalabi and the other exiles, just the people they wanted to keep from power in Febuary. In essence they are backing the original Garner plan for Iraqi reconstruction. Faced with a choice between Bremer, and Bremer's "handpicked lackeys" they'll go with the lackeys, who are asserting SOME independence, even if their first goal seems to be to ban Al-Jazeera. France has given up on establishing a UN regime that might be able to cultivate genuine anti-US iraqis. In the face of this "surrender" Iraqi politics has become confused. Chalabi and the council, eager for power, are tentatively reaching out to the French and Germans, even as Chalabi says he "wont fall into the trap of France". I suspect there is a lot of behind the scenes maneuvering involving Powell, Bremer, Wolfie, Chalabi, etc that involves alliances that some would find VERY surprising.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-9-23 9:41:57 AM  

#2  Yep and more of those Woody Allen ads chastizing us for not loving France like we used to (i.e.: $) - that's what will bring Merkins around...it's Simplisme!
Posted by: Frank G   2003-9-23 9:36:13 AM  

#1  I'm beginning to think we need to deploy a Marine division to the SE of England.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-9-23 8:50:09 AM  

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