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| Down Under |
| Holy war OK abroad, says cleric |
| 2003-10-30 |
| JIHAD, or holy war, was not appropriate in Australia, but was acceptable in Iraq and other nations, a Melbourne Muslim cleric said tonight. On SBS TV’s Insight program, Sheik Mohammed Omran defended fundamentalism in the wake of ASIO raids on Islamic Youth Movement headquarters at Lakemba in Sydney this week. The raids followed an investigation into suspected terrorist Willie Brigitte, who has been deported from Australia and is being interrogated by French authorities. Sheik Omran said he had a close relationship with ASIO, and was opposed to all forms of local terrorism. He said two alleged leaders of Jemaah Islamiyah in Australia - brothers Abdul Rahman Ayub and Abdul Rahim Ayub, who left the country last year - had approached him for advice about attacking the Israeli embassy in Canberra in the lead-up to the Sydney 2000 Olympics. "I said to them, ’This is unacceptable in Australia’. I said to them, ’This is not how we work here’," Sheik Omran told SBS. "This is our safe haven, go blow people up someplace else." Reporter Sarah Ferguson asked: "Does that mean that jihad is appropriate in other places?" "Of course," Sheik Omran replied. Asked if it was appropriate for Muslim’s to join the holy war against coalition forces in Iraq, Sheik Omran said: "I would say, ’Yes’." You got any laws in Australia that cover inciting violence? Sheik Hilali, of Sydney’s Lakemba mosque, told the program that Sheik Omran’s views were dangerously radical. "It is not to the benefit of young people in any area to have a teacher like Omran ... not in Australia or any Arabic or Islamic country," Sheik Hilali said. "What were you thinking, talking in public like that? I thought we agreed to keep it in the mosque." Sheik Omran also defended Islamic Youth Movement leader Bilal Khazal, who has been investigated by Spanish and Lebanese authorities in relation to his alleged connections to a Lebanese terrorist group. "I’m sure he wouldn’t support someone to go and blow up a restaurant, especially if we know that restaurant is in a Muslim area and the people will go and eat there, even if it’s an American company, but the people who will eat there are not Americans," Sheik Omran said. So if you only kill Americans it’s OK? Glad you cleared that up. |
| Posted by:Steve |
| #13 Kill them all and let God sort them out. They are all blood thursty devil worshiper. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4684 2004-04-30 9:49:50 AM |
| #12 Uh Steve White that's exactly what I meant--they can export terrorism with deniability of doing terrorism in their "adopted homelands" |
| Posted by: NotMikeMoore 2003-10-30 9:44:32 PM |
| #11 was opposed to all forms of local terrorism It's like politics.... all terrorism is local. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-10-30 8:01:10 PM |
| #10 Across the globe the moslem religious leaders continually incite their followers to attack us and then claim that we are fighting a war against Islam. Logic must be different in their culture. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2003-10-30 7:40:53 PM |
| #9 Isn't there any kind of Sheik Chain of Command so they can keep this shit straight? Christ, it's worse then the fatwa fiasco. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2003-10-30 4:58:04 PM |
| #8 You guys missed it. The Sheik in Australia said jihad was only okay elsewhere than Australia. The Sheik in Iran say jihad could only be done outside Iran. And the Sheik in Yemen said that jihad could only be done outside Yemen. And the jihadis listen to all of them! |
| Posted by: Steve White 2003-10-30 3:49:55 PM |
| #7 I'm kind of wondering what this "sheik" would have to say if he was the actual target instead of nameless, faceless people half a world away. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-30 1:38:50 PM |
| #6 Hmm maybe our Jemima Islamima groups in the US can send some down to Australia to commit terrorist acts--and they send theirs here--kinda like an exchange program for the Muslin yutes! |
| Posted by: Not Mike Moore 2003-10-30 12:16:22 PM |
| #5 Ahh, another one who wants to talk the walk. He's got a good thing going and can live w/the infidels and their lifestyle and enjoy the lifestyle. Hypocrite comes to mind. |
| Posted by: Anonymous 2003-10-30 12:09:27 PM |
| #4 Sheik Omran, talked in a sweet voice then gave a toothy smile, his eyes twinkled as he batted his dark eyelashes. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2003-10-30 11:47:12 AM |
| #3 the basic summary is "Not In My Backyard" |
| Posted by: eLarson 2003-10-30 11:16:41 AM |
| #2 "Sheik Omran said he ... was opposed to all forms of local terrorism." Well there you have it, I guess terrorism can be OK so long as it's someone far away who's the victim. This echoes well Chomsky, below, who says that Saddam wasn't a threat to "anyone" (anyone except, that is, anyone his regime could manage to physically touch). It's astounding to think that literally billions of people unquestioningly buy into the lies and utter hypocrisy of the corrupt left and the apologists of Islamic terror... < /rant > |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2003-10-30 10:06:28 AM |
| #1 Ummm, yeah - I think I remember reading something about this is the Qu'uran... It's the "Down Under" sura, IIRC. It's sez something about it being okay to do any phreakin' thing you wanna do anywhere you don't happen to live at the moment. Oh, just remembered, but it clearly says "And the believer shall strive not to take a dump in his own living room, for this is an abomination unto Allah, peace unto his bees, and pretty tacky no matter how you slice it." Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. |
| Posted by: .com 2003-10-30 10:01:21 AM |