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Iraq
It’s No Vietnam
2003-10-30
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN in the NYT. Really, I checked. EFL:
Since 9/11, we’ve seen so much depraved violence we don’t notice anymore when we hit a new low. Monday’s attacks in Baghdad were a new low. Just stop for one second and contemplate what happened: A suicide bomber, driving an ambulance loaded with explosives, crashed into the Red Cross office and blew himself up on the first day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. This suicide bomber was not restrained by either the sanctity of the Muslim holy day or the sanctity of the Red Cross. All civilizational norms were tossed aside. This is very unnerving. Because the message from these terrorists is: "There are no limits. We have created our own moral universe, where anything we do against Americans or Iraqis who cooperate with them is O.K."
See my comments above. (Nobody ever believes me. They think I'm an old crank. Past my prime. In my dotage...)
What to do? The first thing is to understand who these people are. There is this notion being peddled by Europeans, the Arab press and the antiwar left that "Iraq" is just Arabic for Vietnam, and we should expect these kinds of attacks from Iraqis wanting to "liberate" their country from "U.S. occupation." These attackers are the Iraqi Vietcong.
Easy, facile comparison, ain't it? Accuracy, doesn't matter...
Hogwash. The people who mounted the attacks on the Red Cross are not the Iraqi Vietcong. They are the Iraqi Khmer Rouge — a murderous band of Saddam loyalists and Al Qaeda nihilists, who are not killing us so Iraqis can rule themselves. They are killing us so they can rule Iraqis. Have you noticed that these bombers never say what their political agenda is or whom they represent? They don’t want Iraqis to know who they really are. A vast majority of Iraqis would reject them, because these bombers either want to restore Baathism or install bin Ladenism.
I'll take "install bin Ladenism" for $20, Larry...
Let’s get real. What the people who blew up the Red Cross and the Iraqi police fear is not that we’re going to permanently occupy Iraq. They fear that we’re going to permanently change Iraq.
Bingo!
The great irony is that the Baathists and Arab dictators are opposing the U.S. in Iraq because — unlike many leftists — they understand exactly what this war is about. They understand that U.S. power is not being used in Iraq for oil, or imperialism, or to shore up a corrupt status quo, as it was in Vietnam and elsewhere in the Arab world during the cold war. They understand that this is the most radical-liberal revolutionary war the U.S. has ever launched — a war of choice to install some democracy in the heart of the Arab-Muslim world. Most of the troubles we have encountered in Iraq (and will in the future) are not because of "occupation" but because of "empowerment." The U.S. invasion has overturned a whole set of vested interests, particularly those of Iraq’s Sunni Baathist establishment, and begun to empower instead a whole new set of actors: Shiites, Kurds, non-Baathist Sunnis, women and locally elected officials and police. The Qaeda nihilists, the Saddamists, and all the Europeans and the Arab autocrats who had a vested interest in the old status quo are threatened by this. Many liberals oppose this war because they can’t believe that someone as radically conservative as George W. Bush could be mounting such a radically liberal war. Some, though, just don’t believe the Bush team will do it right.
OK, he takes a hard left turn here and resumes the NYT party line, but he made the above point very well.
Coincidentally, Richard Cohen wrote a similarly themed piece for today's Washington Post. It's also worth reading...
Posted by:Steve

#5  It damn sure better be about oil. I cetainly don't want their land or women.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-10-30 9:10:02 PM  

#4  It's certainly about oil. The troubles with Saddam began when he fell in love with the Kuwaiti oil fields. Beyond that, Saddam was simply the easest one to rationalize and take down first (after Afghanistan that is).
Posted by: Yanks   2003-10-30 3:00:25 PM  

#3  THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN wrote this? The Liberals are in more trouble than I thought. When the liberals admit that Bush is in the right the Left is in trouble.
Posted by: Howard Dean, Metroman   2003-10-30 2:00:25 PM  

#2  Re: Friedman / NYT
I'm on the patch. Read Lucky's comment and agree with sinister plot, but felt no need to fall into the logic abyss - so I guess it's working.
Posted by: .com   2003-10-30 1:32:50 PM  

#1  I agree with his rant but the oil is absolutly at the heart of the matter. Follow the money. Pouring Iraqi oil into the world market effects certain interest in different ways, OPEC has as much to loose as anybody. Bringing down saddam to free up that oil is absolutly neccesary to win this war. Using WMD threats as a pretext to invading Iraq was ruthlessly brilliant. Bush's attempt to keep this from being an overt religious war is impossible in some respects. Just read the Malaysian PM speech. There is a good link through 'Carnival of the Vanities' blog today on that speech. Sorry for not being a competent linkster. Hey off subject, but bacon slathered in tabasco sauce with hot coffee is to die for.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-10-30 12:32:38 PM  

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