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India-Pakistan
Nuggets from the Urdu press
2003-10-31
Pak Political Parties
Poet Ahmad Nadeem Qasimi wrote in Jang that five Muslim Leagues have joined up but fears are that they will again be separated by their leaders because some of them are saying the merger is actually alliance. On the other hand, the JUI has split in the past to (F) and (S) but inside the MMA the (S) party is threatening to leave. Similarly Jamiat Ulema-a-Pakistan or JUP used to be Noorani and Niazi. Jamaat Islami was indeed united but its stand on General Musharraf was not so sincere given the fact that it had joined General Zia’s government without asking him to take off the uniform.

Fate of Women’s commission
Poetess Kishwar Naheed wrote in Jang that a Women’s Commission was set up in Islamabad four years ago and made permanent. Its chairperson was a lady whose statements were not liked by Pakistan’s feudal leadership. She was threatened over the phone and warned against making any recommendations against the draconian laws against women in Pakistan. She was finally threatened with the abduction of her young daughter, after which she took her daughter and ran away to Canada. After that for some time no one was appointed chairperson, Then Karachi’s respectable judge Justice Majida Rizvi was appointed and the Commission began its work. It has now recommended the repeal of Hudood Laws, two only out of 16 members dissenting, including chairman of the Council of Islamic Ideology. There were 430 women in Karachi jail from all over Sindh because women don’t have the right to being witnesses. A similar number are jailed in Multan along with their children after being raped because they couldn’t bring four witnesses to prove the act.

Fazl brothers called ’thief’ in assembly
According to Jang, a member of the NWFP assembly Hafizullah Alizai used indecent language against JUI chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman and his brother after which there was uproar in the house. The opposition agreed to apologise on his behalf and he himself later apologised to the ruling party, after which the speaker of the house erased the word thief from the record.

Maulana declares war against Jews and Christians
According to Nawa-e-Waqt, Maulana Samiul Haq leader of JUI(S) said in Akora Khatak that the Muslims were suffering from the atrocities of Jews and Christians. They had been targeted especially in their madrasahs therefore he stood up and declared jihad against the aggressive Jews and Christians of the world.

Actress acquitted of obscenity
According to Nawa-e-Waqt actress Khushboo was allowed to go free after the Lahore High Court discovered that charges against her of fahashi were without any proof. The organisation that alleged that she had danced in an obscene manner at Naz theatre and had spoken obscene words could not prove the charge and was not able to bring a single witness. Actress Khushboo had gone to court to get the case against her squashed, but the police had registered the case without a prima facie ground. The court did not award costs.

Is hunger strike against Islam?
Columnist Farooq Alam Ansari wrote in daily Din that after the religious alliance MMA decided that it would sit in the hunger strike camp against the LFO in Islamabad two cleric members Rehmatullah Khalil and Qari Fayyaz Rehman decided that it was against the edicts of Islam to go on hunger strike and therefore they would not go without food. They also said that since shariah was not enforced in Pakistan it was not yet incumbent on them to act in the light of Islamic faith. After seeing that all the great leaders of the MMA were in the hunger strike camp the columnist wondered whether Qari Fayyaz Rehman was not adhering to the faith of eating well prevalent in the city of Gujranwala which he represented.

Insulter of Quran dies
According to Nawa-e-Waqt one Nasima Bibi of Shadbagh who was accused of insulting the Quran died in jail in Lahore after being bailed out by the High Court in June with Rs 50,000 bond for her and her two sons who were also arrested. No one came forward to stand bail for them and the mother died. The sons then prayed to the court that they be allowed to leave and bury their mother as no one was willing to stand bail for them. They said their mother was wrongfully accused by a man to get hod of her house. She was a God-fearing person and could not think of insulting the Quran. The court let the sons below 18 years of age go on a bail of Rs 5,000.

No plucking, please!
According to Khabrain, women were greatly divided over whether women should pluck their facial hair. The religious ones said that those who plucked their eyebrows suffered the wrath of Allah. They could cut their hair on the head only in case of disease otherwise cutting hair was a great sin. Some women said that there should be ijtehad (rethinking) over make-up as most of the ingredients of modern make-up did not exist in ancient times. A beautician said that make-up was Islamic but a maulavi said it was banned.
Posted by:Paul Moloney

#7  I'm of the evangelical variety and I believe in angels and demons

I'm with you... course I live down the hill from the projects and am expecting many students this evening. (Angels and demons) Luckily I have Mr. Hatfield to sort them out for me.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-10-31 6:06:39 PM  

#6  Maulana declares war against Jews and Christians

What again?

.com- lots of Christians of various stripes believe in spirits. I'm of the evangelical variety and I believe in angels and demons, though I don't think them responsible for everything and I look funny at people I meet at church who claim to have complicated encounters with them.
Posted by: OminousWhatever   2003-10-31 5:35:44 PM  

#5  Maybe Khushboo, Bubbli, and Billo can get together and do the Paki version of "Charlie's Angels"? They won't even have to pluck their facial hair.
And if anybody from one of the Muslim leagues wants Manny Ramirez, just pick up the phone and make that call.
Posted by: tu3031   2003-10-31 9:37:38 AM  

#4  Paul / BD - I just back from dinner to find your private stash of jewels and BD's scarily familiar story - and they're doozies! I had conversations with 2 Saudis who were, for reasons that eluded me, bent upon converting me. We covered ground similar to BD's story married to the news items: they casually talked about spirits and ghosts as if everyone knew they existed - and apparently assumed I accepted their existence. Casual - and deadly serious. What did I say, you didn't ask? Well, I would smoke furiously to cover the death's-head grin that threatened to engulf me... it was very very hard not to laugh aloud, I tell ya. More than once, when they paused for the conversational encouragement to continue, it was all I could do to nod my head. One guy is still sending me occasional emails as I somehow became part of his list of "pet" infidels. I'm sure he believes I will convert someday.

BTW - Aramco was a specially privileged "zone" per King Abdul Aziz's edicts - and women could work there in the "core area" uncovered - given they had an influential daddy, that is. There were a few who were astonishingly pretty - huge almond-shaped cow eyes, but the Western-approved body shape was not as frequent. I can easily see the mullahs fearing an invasion of seductresses - and the weakness of a bloke suffering from a Daddy Complex who's offered a knockout woman's body sporting a child's mind.

As with most (all?) belief systems, the deepest fears of the believer's mindset are evidenced by their community myths and strictest censures. Methinks Little Mike had an unfaithful wife and got cheated a few times in business affairs - and took particular exception to exorbitant interest rates... Divine revelation, indeed! If only they knew their history well enough to have known it had to be Aramaic, not Arabic, they might've bluffed it through!

I hate to say it, but the Arthurian legend that so impressed Edward III such that he instituted honor and chivalry and fair play (embodied by the Order of the Garter) as tenets of military and official behavior may have to be jettisoned before the WoT reaches its climax. It will be hard to defeat an enemy with zero strictures when are are so burdened with taboos - which they employ against us at every turn, to boot. Someday, we may be forced to reply in kind. That will be their end, of course, if it comes to that.

Thx, guys - great (and scary) stuff!
Posted by: .com   2003-10-31 7:37:12 AM  

#3  Reminds me of the first time I got talking to a particular British/Pakistani girl who was a junior security guard at a place I once worked (absolutely stunning girl, btw, but dimmer 'n a five-watt bulb). She soon started telling to me, and this was totally unsolicited, that when a child, she had a close encounter with "humans with animal heads" in a field one time, back in the old country. I swear to you, she wasn't pulling my leg.

Although 'promised' to a Muslim, she later eloped with a married middle-aged a***hole named Paul.

It's an odd world.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-10-31 6:14:28 AM  

#2  Barely, although reading these things for the past year has been an interesting experience. Most of the typical insanity and fanaticism kind of melds together after a while, although I can still remember a few nuggets that I never posted here.
Like the time a Mullah reported on his close encounter of the infidel kind, wherein a UFO landed in his backyard, and several men with big eyes got out and started pointing at him, luckily, being a very holy man, the Mullah closed his eyes and prayed loudly. When he opened them, the UFO had disappeared.
Or the time when the dastardly Indians has come up with an evil new plan, where RAW had recruited thousands of Hindu girls, who had dedicated themselves to some Hindu goddess of love, and apparently had mastered the Kama Sutra, and were now streaming across the border in order to seduce Pakistan's Generals and Politicians in order to extract vital information from them.
And then there is this:
According to Khabrain, a Christian pir in Chak Misran has revealed that the tornado that visited the village was, in fact, a fight between two groups of Jinns. The non-Muslim jinns were opposed to Muslim jinns and were living a life of tension. The crisis broke out when a non-Muslim jinn fell in love with a Muslim female jinn. The girl jinn was very obstinate and did not listen to the buzurg Muslim
jinns and was about to marry the non-Muslim jinn when all hell broke loose and the village was destroyed. Muslim jinns which came from the neighbouring villages were rescued. Chak Misran was now completely in control of Muslim jinns and their children attended tilawat of Quran.
Posted by: Paul Moloney   2003-10-31 5:54:13 AM  

#1  Reading the Qu'uran and haddiths etc and thus "knowing" on an intellectual level just how amazingly wacked-out Islam is pales in comparison to its effects in practice. Every item here demonstrates the point. Taken in total - and knowing it's just another day in one corner of Islam and not an aberration - it is truly breathtaking.

A daily roundup like this should be required reading for every female - who's been allowed to learn to read - and read aloud to the rest. Then the same for all pseudo-intellectuals / self-styled elitists and apologists in the West. The sum is negative - in the extreme. I feel like Linda Blaire in The Exorcist... I can't remember, did her head spin first or did she do the target-vomiting first?

Thx for the post, Paul! BTW, are you still sane?
Posted by: .com   2003-10-31 5:02:06 AM  

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