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Prince Talal afraid Soddy Arabia will be partitioned
2003-11-30
Prince Talal bin Abdel-Aziz, half-brother of Saudi Arabia’s King Fahd bin Abdel-Aziz, told the Foreign Press Association in Paris earlier this week that he welcomed the embryonic reform process getting underway in his country, but is worried that recent devastating bomb attacks there were intended to bring down the monarchy.
Oh, no, Mr. Bill!
Prince Talal, president of the Arab Gulf Program for United Nations Development Organizations, expressed his relief that reforms have started to take effect in Saudi Arabia, saying such measures are necessary across most of the Arab region. “I am one of several persons who have been demanding reforms for many years. Therefore, I believe that the hopes and demands of those who have been seeking reforms are now being realized. This is a good thing. Reforms are not required only in Saudi Arabia 
 we are in need of democracy and human rights in most of the Arab countries,” he said.
"But no place quite as much as Soddy Arabia..."
But while welcoming reform, the prince expressed a fear widely held among the Saudi rulers that terror organizations are now directly targeting their hold on power. “Unfortunately, the terrorist operations that have afflicted Saudi Arabia are intended to destabilize the regime,” he said Tuesday.
Rather like Soddy "charities" are intended to destabilize infidel regimes, in fact...
Prince Talal called for those who incite violence to be put on trial, including radical clerics who he named as leading instigators of terror. “One of their theoreticians is a senior sheikh called Sheikh Ali bin Khodeir al-Khodeir, and there is another who goes by the name of Sheikh Nassir ibn Hamad al-Fahd. They had been preaching to these individuals and encouraging them to become terrorists by issuing fatwas (religious rulings) and authoring books to this effect. A few days ago, we were surprised to see these two men retreating from their fatwas. Is the fatwa a game? Does this mean that you can issue a fatwa to shed the blood of people? How many victims fell after they issued these fatwas? How many men, women and children died because of these fatwas? They must stand trial,” he said.
Oh, go ahead. Cut their heads off. You know you want to...
The prince also said the Saudis will turn into human shields to defend their country against any US attempt to partition it.
This is new, at least coming from the Soddies...
Prince Talal claimed Saudi Arabia has come to know through senior US officials that there were plans to partition the region.
Really? That's fascinating. And a damned good idea, if I do say so myself...
Asked whether such reports were mere rumors, Prince Talal replied that US President George W. Bush had said the US should reconsider its relations with countries that do not have democratic government. US Secretary of State Colin Powell has also alluded to a possible reconsideration of the Middle East map, explained the prince.
Scared, little fellow?
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#7  this guy wants the nasty clerics put on trial. Sounds like a guy with a sense of cause and effect - is he one of the more sensible royals, I ask the Saudi experts here? And it sounds to me like he is seizing on the partition threat as a club against those royals who think the status quo is acceptable.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-12-1 11:07:41 AM  

#6  
plans to partition the region
One can only hope! Soon.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2003-11-30 11:34:26 PM  

#5  OP, the royals need to undergo a pogrom against the learned clerics that, up till now, have held sway. Once that process is done they can remake the religion into one that is less radicalized. But the current generation is lost. Ignorant people are easily lead. They will believe anything. Off the current leadership and the followers. The royals can save their asses not with the status-quo.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-11-30 9:18:44 PM  

#4  AP - I've had many rather nasty thoughts about how to deal with the Soddies over the last few years, most of which were brutal, ugly, and mean. Problem is, I don't think any of them would have any lasting effect except on the immediate victim. The problem is going to be to change the hearts and minds of not only the Soddies, but of most of the Arab world and its border provinces. Unfortunately, we can't build a wall (a la Israel) to contain them all, so we have to be more inventive. To date, I haven't come up with anything that would work on a large enough portion of the population. In the meantime, we'll just have to be content with the tried and true methods of just blowing the living sh$$ out of them. I'm open for ideas and suggestions for other approaches, but they have to at least be equally as effective as "eliminating the mind eliminates the problem".
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-11-30 8:42:28 PM  

#3  Is the fatwa a game? Does this mean that you can issue a fatwa to shed the blood of people? How many victims fell after they issued these fatwas? How many men, women and children died because of these fatwas?

Where the asshats issuing these Fatwas are taken seriously, these little numbers have been deadly packets.

In the Free Cyber-Space of Rantburg, Fatwas have been an obsession and a source of innocent merriment.

Prince Talal's fear of partition of Saudi Arabia is a bit mild. I think others are using terms, such as "drawn and quartered," to better describe the proposed process.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-11-30 7:22:48 PM  

#2  Reminds me of the (true) story of a Soviet general who asked a german prisoner what he thought about the future of Germany. "I think Germany will be cut in many small pieces". "Not Germany, Germans" was the answer of the general.
Posted by: JFM   2003-11-30 7:11:25 PM  

#1  Well Prince since your country attacked and annexed the "eastern provinces" from Bahrain, you have it coming. I am waiting for such a partition Inshallah
Posted by: Muslim   2003-11-30 7:04:27 PM  

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