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Iraq
Baathists infiltrated Iraqi security forces and the CPA
2003-12-19
Agents for deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein have penetrated the U.S. command in Iraq, ABCNEWS has learned. As a result, they have the potential to undermine U.S. authority.
I think we may have guessed that...
Among the documents found in Saddam’s briefcase when he was captured last weekend was a list of names of Iraqis who have been working with the United States — either in the Iraqi security forces or the Coalition Provisional Authority — and are feeding information to the insurgents. "We were badly infiltrated," said the official, adding that finding the list of names is a "gold mine."
Keep telling yourself that Saddam had nothing to do with the insurgents, Dr. Dean ...
The United States has been rapidly recruiting Iraqis to take over security in the war-torn nation. Some 162,000 Iraqis have been trained in the areas of civil defense, police and other security activities since May. On a recent trip to Baghdad, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was told by the commander of the U.S. Army’s 4th Infantry Division that every two or three weeks the military discovers someone who should not have made it through the vetting process. William Rosenau, who once served in the Pentagon’s Office of Special Operations, says the spies could have caused great harm. "They could conceivably disrupt operations directed against you. They can throw sand in the gears, they can spread disinformation," said Rosenau. "They are going to be able to tell you what those forces are trying to do, what their equipment is like, what their tactics are going to be and so on."
That's why they used to kill spies. I don't know what they do with them nowadays. Give them counseling or something...
With the attacks continuing in Iraq, the U.S. military can now use the list to seek out the infiltrators and, officials hope, stop some of the damage they may be causing. Pentagon officials with whom ABCNEWS spoke were not surprised about the infiltration. It is a common tactic that certainly happened in Vietnam, they said. But what they continue to worry about are infiltrators whose names are not on the list.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#11  liberalhawk, when you have the Dimocrats beating up on President Bush and his Administration and the Bush Doctrine all day, every day, it doesn't take Rush to inform "the faithful" (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, anyone?) that the partisan, political war of ideas is inextricably linked with the military part of the GWOIT (Global War on Islamist Terror).
It's a war of ideas, memes and winning hearts and minds.
As for making "everything" politically partisan, you can thank your idols the Clintons for that.
They started it, made it an international sport and are doing it--What time is it?-- to this moment.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro   2003-12-19 7:44:46 PM  

#10  What is there really much to say about national workers? They are vetted the best you can but some infiltraters still get through. In Korea and Central America it was a rule of thumb that "If it is sensitive, you don't talk about it in front of the help"
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2003-12-19 7:31:16 PM  

#9  I dont mind that people discuss domestic politics in appropriate places, it just annoys me when an unrelated thread on WOT strategy and tactics gets threadjacked to the usual partisan sniping. I dont come here for partisan exchanges - quite frankly there are plenty of other places for that, with greater variety of opinons and much more insightful comments (no im not talking about liberal sights - im thinking more along the lines of Tacitus, an intelligent conservative blog) What this blog is BEST at is current events overseas, tactics and strategy, etc. And yeah, i know that Rush et al think that beating up on any and all Dems is Part of the WOT - I think thats vile, and as bad in its way as reflexive Bush bashing on the left.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-12-19 3:44:35 PM  

#8  I hate to tell you this, liberalhawk, but this is a 2-front war in more ways than one--there's the homeland and the culture war and the actual theatres of combat (which also includes the homeland).
It's no coincidence that Liberal Dimocrats have joined common cause with Islamist terrorists time and time again since 9/11 at least.
Winning the war of ideas is now every it as important as winning actual battles and in the long run, even more crucial.
Even the Iraqi bloggers are addressing American partisan political problems and sounding like Bushies.
Get used to hearing partisan domestic politics inextricably linked to foreign policy problems and discussed simultaneously.
Oh, and if there's a God who loves us, the Dimocrats will lose big in 2004, because their "ideas" are vapid and worthless and worse, are getting American citizens and soldiers killed now and will ensure that alot more Americans will die in the future.
The Bush Doctrine works.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro   2003-12-19 3:43:48 PM  

#7  liberalhawk...what is bothering you? Where things are dicussed? Or, the nature of the discussion?
Posted by: Dragon Fly   2003-12-19 2:30:49 PM  

#6  Help me - wasntthis post about vetting iraqis working for the CPA - how did it get to about domestic politics - arent there several threads under homefront for that?
Posted by: liberalhawk   2003-12-19 1:53:58 PM  

#5  The left and others have been screaming: WE NEED MORE TROOPS, WE NEED MORE TROOPS, WE NEED MORE TROOPS! However, our boots on the ground have said all along that we need good, solid intelligence to eliminate the terrorists.

Sammy is in the Jug. Why? Good, solid intelligence.

We know there are agents among our troops. Why? Good, solid intelligence.

It seems that the Left is really stuck in the Vietnam era. They will never learn to trust the judgment of the boots on the ground.
Posted by: Dragon Fly   2003-12-19 8:07:24 AM  

#4  Ohhh, there'll be an opposition: After the Dems disintegrate, the Republicans will split into the South Park and Conservative wings and we'll start all over again.
Posted by: Ptah   2003-12-19 7:54:24 AM  

#3  After 40 years of running everything the Dems in America got flabby and lazy when it came to arguing from anything resembling logic. All they know now is "Don't vote for them! They'll take your candy away!"

One day it will dawn on them that their message has been getting out loud and clear and that the majority of folks these days don't like it. In the meantime I'm rather enjoying their meltdown.
Posted by: eLarson   2003-12-19 7:31:47 AM  

#2  4thInfVet: God's own truth. I actually find myself wishing for a vibrant opposition that would help spark ideas and debate. However, the Donks only offer fear and doom: a complete lack of a coherent platform. They'll lose big for sure, but in the end we all lose a little as a result.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2003-12-19 3:08:22 AM  

#1  I keep wondering how many different directions the American Socialist Party liberals will manage to spin themselves before they self destruct.

First, the war was a disaster and Baghdad would be Dubya's Stalingrad (oh those heroic iraqis). Oh shit, Thunder Run into Baghdad, no valiant stopping of American Fascism at the gates of Baghdad.

Then the 'occupation' was a disaster and it was going to be Dubya's Vietnam. Oh shit, the Army found the thug in a hole- woops. Vietnam? Who said Vietnam? "Not I" said Dr. Dean.

Ok then, bagging saddam is obviously a disaster, it only proves how inept the military has been in allowing itself to be 'infiltrated' by saddam's agents, no matter that since saddam carried around a list of them in a briefcase (huh? operation security, anyone? beuller?) they're all getting rolled up, too. That doesn't disguise the fact that this has been a complete disaster from start to finish.

These morons are so blinded by their idealogical hatred they can't even experience objective truth anymore, all they can do is try to warp reality into some twisted interpretation that fits their own distorted worldview.
Posted by: 4thInfVet   2003-12-19 1:01:32 AM  

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