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| Brian Whitaker, Guardian, 1/19/04 http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1126294,00.html Deborah Fink is a singer and music teacher living in London. She is also Jewish. Last month, out of the blue, she received a deluge of hateful emails - more than 150 in the space of a week. One came from a rabbi in New York, informing her: "Your soul, my dear, is petrified and lost." Another said, menacingly: "Hitler killed the wrong Jews." Yet another - ostensibly from a Jewish doctor of medicine in the US - elaborated on the Holocaust theme. "Too bad Hitler didn’t get your family," it said. "With six million Jews dieing [sic] 60 year [sic] ago it’s a shame scum like you somehow managed to survive." What, exactly, had Ms Fink done to deserve this vitriol? The short answer is that she had been planning to sing. Ms Fink is a member of Just Peace UK, a mainly, but not exclusively, Jewish group opposing the Israeli occupation and seeking "a viable and sovereign Palestinian state alongside a safe and secure Israel, with Jerusalem as the shared capital of both states..."
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| Posted by:Friendly Jew |
| #46 God, what a really cool thread. Been gone all day and shit really hits the fan. Hat tip to Desert Blonde and of course all the Rantburgers. Just wish I could have been here. But in my own two words, Quote. "Pincer the bastards." Shep. I'm sorry, I will forever quote the quote. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-1-21 12:39:23 AM |
| #45 If Israelis were really acting like Nazis, they'd have quickly rounded up 6 million Palistinians and gassed them. End of story. Arafat would have been gone long ago. Trolls are definitely in season. If they aren't kids, then they are illiterate and/or stupid adults. And you know what? Call me arrogant, but either way it bums me out that their votes count as much as mine. |
| Posted by: Ughman 2004-1-20 10:43:36 PM |
| #44 Oh, this time let ME staple the signs to them! I promise not to use a nailgun again! |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-1-20 9:51:58 PM |
| #43 Great, Dean shows himself for the loser he is and the trolls come marching out. Somebody call Jeff Foxworthy and place a order for 'stupid' signs. |
| Posted by: Charles 2004-1-20 9:48:40 PM |
| #42 OP War brides? I love it! Especially of the trolls are male :). |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-1-20 9:21:29 PM |
| #41 Nice comments in the posted article by the man who pays the rent. Thanks Fred for leaving the exchanges up. I liked the one where the ignorant troll called Frank G. a jew. |
| Posted by: Gasse Katze 2004-1-20 8:54:26 PM |
| #40 We need to chip in and buy these trolls a burqa and ship them to Pakistan as "war brides". I'm sure they'd love it. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2004-1-20 7:41:55 PM |
| #39 May Gld Bless Ariel Sharon and the IDF |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-1-20 7:31:23 PM |
| #38 "IDF Destroyer"? That's a good one....tell me, you still live in your mama's basement, or have you moved back into the bedroom she turned into a crafts room yet? Is it just me, or do these guys remind anyone else of that old SNL skit with William Shatner? ;) "You! I bet you've never even kissed a girl!" (Sorry Frank....I know not to feed the trolls, but I couldn't resist....) |
| Posted by: Desert Blondie 2004-1-20 7:28:42 PM |
| #37 Bomb-a-rama: "humiliation" of Palestinians by Israeli policies carries the same weight as indiscriminate murder of Israeli civilians by Palestinian suicide bombings. You call Israel's human rights abuses 'humiliation'. Man once again seems Israeli policy supporters have their head up their arse. |
| Posted by: IDF Destroyer 2004-1-20 6:33:59 PM |
| #36 Ok, redneck so show us your bona fides. Ever gut a deer, butcher a hog or help a stranded stranger by the side of the road? Otherwise choose a handle like Metrosexual. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2004-1-20 6:21:33 PM |
| #35 First... I doubt the self proclaimed martyr got the e-mails... Second... appeasement of murderers deserves criticism Third... 'Fink'? is a Fink? I call bullshit. |
| Posted by: DANEgerus 2004-1-20 5:57:40 PM |
| #34 I don't trust this Blogger's for Trolling. I think trolls can change their names, it goes against all science but then again who knows. what secrets they have. I miss our house trolls. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-1-20 5:32:04 PM |
| #33 Well I'm a so called real Jew and I believe that the Israel is very wrong in their treatment of the Palestinians. Apparently, the message here seems to be that "humiliation" of Palestinians by Israeli policies carries the same weight as indiscriminate murder of Israeli civilians by Palestinian suicide bombings. Nice. Problem is, only suckers buy this line. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-20 5:18:24 PM |
| #32 SH - no one EVER changes their nickname, when posting to a forum like this. Whenever you see a different name you should assume a different person is posting, even if they are saying largely the same thing, and just coincidentally show up at the same time on the same thread. I hope this helps. |
| Posted by: trollers for blogging 2004-1-20 5:07:14 PM |
| #31 Frank, Is the continuously changing name by the poster of the article in the comment section fool me into thinking that there is a ground swelling of support for this individuals assinine ideas? I'm new at the blog thing - am I supposed to pretend that these commenters are more than one person? I don't want to spoil the game or anything. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2004-1-20 5:03:58 PM |
| #30 I think everyone should get real excited and upset when a troll shows up. We wouldnt want them to not get the attention they so deeply crave right???? the more hysterical their logic, the more it should concern us, since such logic is especially persuasive to the various folks who might find their way here. The more it drives up our blood pressure the better. also failing to react viscerally to trolls just MIGHT allow blogs and the internet to serve as useful discussion forums - which MIGHT lessen the role of real life, lead to things like the Dean campaign, Atrios, and neo-pets, and other affronts to western civilization(TM - Samuel Huntington) So puhleeze, folks, never miss a chance to argue with a troll. |
| Posted by: bloggers for trolling 2004-1-20 5:00:14 PM |
| #29 *Stupidity. OK, mabye I was wrong about that curse part...Don't blame me for my spelling, I'm young... |
| Posted by: S 2004-1-20 4:54:23 PM |
| #28 Most middle schoolers these days don't care about politics. No, I think these are simply stubborn adults who don't know how to face the truth when it is presented to them. Stupidty is not always the curse of youth... |
| Posted by: S 2004-1-20 4:52:11 PM |
| #27 that was directed of course to Jew for Peace = Tao Gold = Bonehead = Dilbert = Bombem = Redneck ;-) |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-1-20 4:46:36 PM |
| #26 I take your attack as a compliment, idiot, and no I'm not Jewish, and neither are you.... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-1-20 4:43:48 PM |
| #25 Tao Gold, You miserable coward, I have a suggestion of how you can be role model. Schlepp your arse over here to Israel and get yourself blown to pieces by one of your suicidal Pali friends. It seems you are too good at giving moral advice from a safe distance. |
| Posted by: The Dodo 2004-1-20 4:32:45 PM |
| #24 Good to see that their are members of the Jewish faith that do not agree with the Nazi policies of Israel. Actually, it's Muslims who use Nazi methods of torture and massacre. Just check out what happens to non-Muslim minorities in many Muslim countries, who are persecuted and discriminated against. Also check out the unwillingness of Muslims to live as minorities in non-Muslim countries, with numerous armed rebellions and terror attacks against the non-Muslim majorities. On the issue of Jews who side with their Muslim murderers, there will always be Jews who side with the enemy against their co-religionists. As the Romans approached the gates of Jerusalem, Jews fought each other instead of their common enemy. It's actually telling about Islam how few Muslims will side with the good guys against Muslim mass murderers. If only the current American administration could put an end to its double standards and take charge of the Palestine/Israel conflict. I can agree with this statement - we need to stop imposing double standards on Israel and give them the green light to impose regime change on the Palestinian Authority. Unfortunately, the State Department flunkeys who treasure our relations with the Muslim world won't let this happen. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2004-1-20 4:27:41 PM |
| #23 "I agree the American administration has long served only the interest of the a few strong interest groups and in fact has ended up tarnishing the diplomatic image it once had. We need to take back America and stop listening to self-serving interest groups. " Bonehead. I agree 100% with that part of your post, the US should not be listening to or kow-towing to Saudi Arabia. The rest of what you say is subintelligent. I also think the US should stop jerking Israel around and let them do what has to be done to secure their borders and the peace but then what do I know. I prefer a brief war followed by a lasting Peace to decades of hot air and plans, and expoded buses filled with body parts, and promises of genocide. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2004-1-20 4:12:48 PM |
| #22 Listen guys, I know that Dean got creamed last night, but we didn't have anything to do with it - I don't live anywhere near Iowa! |
| Posted by: Dan Darling 2004-1-20 4:11:58 PM |
| #21 Give me a break. The LAST thing the paleos want, or need, is their own country. Can you imagine if they didn't have the Jooooos to blame for their situation? The infighting that would arise? The corruption? The incompetence? The greed? They'd find some way to blame Israel. They'd have to. Besides, Arafat's making too much money this way. I'm sure he'd rather be a successful terror leader versus a failed country head. Plus, who's Israel supposed to negotiate with?!?! Hamas? Islamic Jihad? Al Aqsa? They're too busy calling for pushing the Joooos into the sea. Jew for peace. Give me a break. Build the wall. Let the paleos reap what they have sown. |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2004-1-20 4:00:22 PM |
| #20 LOL Redneck! |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-1-20 3:53:12 PM |
| #19 Seem's like you bigots just can't stand Israel bashers. |
| Posted by: Redneck 2004-1-20 3:51:45 PM |
| #18 This is my first time on this site. |
| Posted by: Redneck 2004-1-20 3:50:16 PM |
| #17 HMmmmm. Bonehead,eh? Such an appropos sobriquet. |
| Posted by: Gasse Katze 2004-1-20 3:48:05 PM |
| #16 Trolls. Fresh trolls. We got trolls. Get them while they're hot. |
| Posted by: doc 2004-1-20 3:47:01 PM |
| #15 Frank G - "A real Jew would never call Israel's policies "Nazi". Well I'm a so called real Jew and I believe that the Israel is very wrong in their treatment of the Palestinians. Judaism does not teach us to treat others in such a way, we should be role models. You are the one who is not a real Jew. |
| Posted by: Tao Gold - Australia 2004-1-20 3:46:00 PM |
| #14 Ah. Junior high. When stupidity outweighs all else. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-1-20 3:44:47 PM |
| #13 Dhimmi Alert! |
| Posted by: TS 2004-1-20 3:43:23 PM |
| #12 I'm turning on the com light. Hi guys welcome to Rantburg. Is math hard? |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-1-20 3:40:26 PM |
| #11 Isreal is untouchable .... we will nuke anyone that messes with us. Hey we are the only other country after America that had planned to use our nukes. Power is everything. |
| Posted by: Bombem 2004-1-20 3:39:29 PM |
| #10 Frank G - what do you call the policies of Israel - fair. Man you need to stop smoking the weed. Let me ask you one other question, have you stopped beating your mom ? |
| Posted by: Dilbert 2004-1-20 3:37:22 PM |
| #9 what a stupid unthoughtfull women this is,after all the continual struggle for Israel this dumb bitch starts singing to give it all back,what a din-low.And as for living peacefully with the palo's,well thats just idiotic to think that could happen even in 1000years. |
| Posted by: Jon Shep U.K 2004-1-20 3:35:50 PM |
| #8 Frank G - I think you need to pull your head at of your arse. Palestinians have every right to fight, too bad you get your news from CNN. Try watching a real news station like the BBC where the tell what's really going on over there. Your just a big bigot and I'm sure your proud of it |
| Posted by: Bonehead 2004-1-20 3:34:46 PM |
| #7 Jew for Peace; Why is it Americas job too take action on this matter? Any time America gets involved in anything then we are "nosey" and should mind our own buisness. Learn too deal with your own problems instead of wanting someone too for you. |
| Posted by: smokeysinse 2004-1-20 3:34:05 PM |
| #6 It's really obvious when junior high is done and the trolls go out to play, isn't it? |
| Posted by: 4thInfVet 2004-1-20 3:33:35 PM |
| #5 I agree the American administration has long served only the interest of the a few strong interest groups and in fact has ended up tarnishing the diplomatic image it once had. We need to take back America and stop listening to self-serving interest groups. Funny when we try and tell Israel to play fair, they just bite back at us. And yet we support them as if our countries well being depended on them. |
| Posted by: Bonehead 2004-1-20 3:32:03 PM |
| #4 A real Jew would never call Israel's policies "Nazi" ...nice, post the article(whhich is not news) and then comment on it... |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-1-20 3:31:18 PM |
| #3 Hey Jew for Peace: fuck off. |
| Posted by: Unmutual 2004-1-20 3:30:25 PM |
| #2 occupation huh? do they oppose splodeydope booming of innocent civilians (Arab and Jew) indiscrimintely? Do they oppose a fence stopping terror attacks? Do they propose rewarding terror attacks by giving away half of Jerusalem? DO they oppose street killings of Paleos accused of collaborating? What about Honor/Shame killings? What about the outright corruption and theft of Paleo funds by the Arafat regime? Just Peace huh? |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-1-20 3:29:56 PM |
| #1 Good to see that their are members of the Jewish faith that do not agree with the Nazi policies of Israel. If only the current American administration could put an end to its double standards and take charge of the Palestine/Israel conflict. |
| Posted by: Jew for Peace 2004-1-20 3:28:30 PM |