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| EFL In November 2003, US President George W. Bush described what he termed the third pillar of Americaâs security: âglobal democratic revolution.â If Iraq and Afghanistan were the first âbeneficiariesâ of this revolution, then it seems almost certain that Saudi Arabia will feature somewhere in Bushâs revolutionary plans. [we hope you fear] ... Saudi Arabia is not America. It was founded on the basis of Islam, and Islam has provided the nation with its guiding principles. The idea that religion should be separated from the affairs of state is viewed as heresy. Under Islam, secularism equates with apostasy  a fact that clearly shows the fallacy and danger of Bushâs messianic vision to democratize the Middle East.... democracy = apostasy = death; how convenient For the visitor to Riyadh, US security doesnât lie in proving that Osama bin Ladenâs claims of a war against Islam are true; Americaâs security lies in proving bin Laden wrong by leaving the Muslim world to choose its own destiny, [tyranny] in its own time [tyranny forever] and in its own way [terror financing, intolerance, intimidation]. Amir Butler is executive director of the Australian Muslim Public Affairs Committee (AMPAC) [no doubt a tax deductible organization]. |
| Posted by:mhw |
#17 All dictatorships in the world are in-place because of the yankee connivance.No, Faisal, at least in the Middle East they're in place because Allah wants them to be. Arabs live useless, shitty, repressed lives because Allah wants them to. The Arabs that pass themselves off as "Palestinians" live worthless, useless, repressed, shitty, murderous, hopeless lives because Allah wants them to. The Western world (that would be Christians and Jews and Atheists and Agnostics and Wiccans, et al.) invent things and have open, flourishing, vibrant societies because Allah wants them to. If Allah wanted you to be as free and inventive and SUCCESSFUL as we are, you would be. Because, after all, everything is Allah's will, right? So quit your whining; your life sucks because Allah wants it to. No need to thank me; glad to help out. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-1-30 10:38:09 PM |
| #16 On one hand all of the dictatorships are America's fault, and then on the other Muslims love dictatorship. If that is true Muslim's should love the US. Something isn't right in that reasoning. Faisel, please explain. Syria = ex-French colony, now dictatorship Iraq = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship Jordan = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship Kuwait = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship Oman = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship South Yemen = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship North Yemen = Ex-Soviet colony, now part of Yemen and still a dictatorship Egypt = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship Libya = Ex-French colony, now dictatorship Algeria = Ex-French colony, dictatorship Sudan = Ex-British colony, now dictatorship Somalia = Ex-Italian & ex-Soviet colony, now dictatorship. The US hardly created all dictatorships. To say so is to shout out your ignorance of history. The US does have the following marks however, and for fairness I will list them. Note these were never colonies so US influence was far less: Iran = Ex-US client, now theocracy pretending to be Democracy Saudi Arabia = current US client, dictatorship Israel = current US client, DEMOCRACY |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2004-1-30 5:02:02 PM |
| #15 Faisal:the reason there's no democracy in the Arab world is because the people there,Iraq perhaps excepting,don't want democracy.If they did,there would be demonstrations.Not perhaps in Cairo,but in free London and Paris,at least.Alas,even poor Salman Rushdie got bigger rallies. |
| Posted by: El Id 2004-1-30 2:10:23 PM |
| #14 Blondie, don't encourage underage drinking. You know Faisal's not reached puberty yet. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-1-30 1:28:31 PM |
| #13 On behalf of Americans everywhere, I hereby affirm that the reason Faisal lives on a couch in his daddy's basement and has never kissed a girl is because of my evil government, specifically the Bush family and Halliburton. The reason that the Muslim world has been in decline since about the 13th century is a joint American-Zionist conspiracy so bloody powerful that it could humiliate the Arabs decades before Columbus even came over in 1492. Happy now, Faisal? Now go plump up those sofa cushions and get another Meister Brau. |
| Posted by: Desert Blondie 2004-1-30 1:03:22 PM |
| #12 Does anyone else find it a little hypocritical this is coming from an AUSTRALIAN head? |
| Posted by: Anonymous2U 2004-1-30 12:59:15 PM |
| #11 Now, now Faisal, the people you care about have been screwed millenia, so what's the beef? ALL the dictators of the world? Jdam if you do, Jdam if you don't. |
| Posted by: Anonymous2U 2004-1-30 12:57:26 PM |
| #10 bomb-a-rama I partially agree. the arab "Total Blame Others Management (TBOM)" worldview is, in part, created due to overactive imagination but in part it is created due to the culture of shame and taught - in schools, at home, in mosques, at the office |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-1-30 12:51:28 PM |
| #9 bomb-a-rama I partially agree. the arab "Total Blame Others Management (TBOM)" worldview is, in part, created due to overactive imagination but in part it is created due to the culture of shame and taught - in schools, at home, in mosques, at the office |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-1-30 12:48:32 PM |
| #8 woo hoo!!! Faisal! you never cease to amaze! so once again, the arab world has the US to blame. geez.... what frikkin' VICTIMS they are! can't they EVER do a bit of personal reflection and find that the fault lies not with the stars (or the US) but in their selves? man oh man, they blame, blame, blame. Well, as long as it's the US or Israel. How come they never blamed Saddam, the worse murderer of muslims in recent history, for ANYTHING?!? What a world of intellectual, cultural and social bankruptcy. sheesh! |
| Posted by: PlanetDan 2004-1-30 12:29:48 PM |
| #7 All dictatorships in the world are in-place because of the yankee connivance. Haaahahahahahaha, now we know "why they hate us". It's their overactive imaginations. hahahaha |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-30 12:14:08 PM |
| #6 Yeah Faisel, I saw the same movie you and your roomates saw. BTW I asked you about where you thought the WMD are. Your answer was moronic. But the question remains and is an important question. Try hard, think about it and maybe you'll understand. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-1-30 11:58:40 AM |
| #5 Faisal, don't get too used to any of these regimes. Or societies, for that matter. As you know, since they cannot adapt to this millenium, or even the last one, they will all eventually have to be destroyed. Deep down, you KNOW they will, but because you don't admit it (paralleling the sexual confusion you regularly evince) it's our job to remind you--which we will again and again. |
| Posted by: Anonymous 2004-1-30 11:41:27 AM |
| #4 Americaâs security lies in proving bin Laden wrong by leaving the Muslim world to choose its own destiny,in its own time,and in its own way. Unfortunately, OBL and his 19 Muslim minons including 15 Saudis, attacked US cities and citizens. It was OBL's attempt to provoke a war between the US and all the 1 billion Muslims. After the attack happened we soon realized that Saudi Arabia and their state sponsored Wahhabism had already chosen their destiny, the time, and the way. They are just trying to convince us otherwise. 'Convert or die', the main tenet of Wahhabism, was a motto for the 7th century not the 21st. |
| Posted by: Gasse Katze 2004-1-30 10:28:47 AM |
| #3 gotta love Faisel all dictatorships are US's fault probably we could add all environmental problems in all countries are US's fault all economic problems in all countries are US's fault all terrorism acts in all countries are US's fault the problem here is it crowds out room for blaming Israel (Faisel's rant yesterday)for Hamas, Al Aq and Islamic Jihad terrorism. |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-1-30 10:25:16 AM |
| #2 All dictatorships in the world are in-place because of the yankee connivance. Take a look at the Middle east. If there were true democracies in place, uncle sam's interests would be hurt. So, support the dictators. screw the people of those countries. and when something like 9/11 happens.... what has uncle sam gotta say?. Hey don't blame US for all YOUR problems. US State Department. Hypocrisy par excellence. Coming to a country near you. |
| Posted by: Faisal 2004-1-30 10:20:39 AM |
| #1 Islam = Saudi royal family = wealth and power for being born into the Saudi royal family = opposition to democracy = opposition to liberty = suppression of all criticim of Islam = Islam |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-1-30 9:12:05 AM |