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Arabia
Hajjis debate forgiving terrorists
2004-02-05
Although the annual hajj is a time of erasing past sins, some pilgrims are finding it hard to forgive Islamic militants -- including suicide bombers -- for blackening their religion’s image.
Something tells me they'll somehow do it, though...
The pilgrimage comes as some militants and clerics in the Arab world have renounced their extremist stands in recent months. They embraced moderation in the wake of international and domestic pressure, especially since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the US. While some pilgrims in this holy city said militants don’t deserve forgiveness, many others maintained that forgiveness, like repentance, is crucial to eliminating extremism. "We must not create an enmity with them," Saudi pilgrim Abdullah al-Ghamdi, 27, said of the militants.
Note the surname here. Anybody in your immediate family (as opposed to just the tribe) in the jug for this type of stuff, son?
We have to open a dialogue with them so that they are fully convinced," he said. Syrian merchant and first-time pilgrim Seif Eddin Shalabi disagreed. "By God, we can never forgive them for what they have done," Shalabi said on Tuesday. "They have caused strife between Muslims themselves and between Muslims and the West. Also what about the numerous victims? Who’s to be held accountable for that?"
Well, they're dead. It's all in the past. Time to move on. Maybe a nice riot group hug will bring closure...
Shalabi said militants have caused resistance to be confused with terrorism, "which has undermined our causes in Palestine and Iraq."
"... where it's okay to kill and maim and bomb and shoot indiscriminately."
Shoeib Adamou, from Nigeria, said terrorists cannot even be considered real Muslims. "The whole Muslim community has repeatedly denounced them, so forgiveness is not even an issue here," he said, as waves of pilgrims poured into Mecca for the last rites of a pilgrimage marred by the trampling deaths of 251 people on Sunday.
Al-Ghamdis are a forgiving lot. When it comes to al-Ghamdis, of course...
"The door to repentance is open," said Egyptian salesman Mohammed al-Sayed, who was performing his third hajj. "The important thing is that they are sincere."
Ummm... They're sincere in their desire to kill us all. Does that count?
Usama Mustafa, an American of Lebanese origin, praised militants who repented, but accused the US and Arab regimes of "pushing the militants to the extreme" -- America through its perceived bias toward Israel, and Arab governments by oppressing their own citizens. "What do they expect from these people? That they smile back at them? The injustice is so clear," said the hospital administrator from Alexandria, Virginia. "We cannot blame them [militants] too much, and we cannot defend them too much," he said.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#7  *I* have a BETTER IDEA!

Why don't you moderates KILL ALL THE TERRORISTS, and LET ALLAH SORT THEM OUT? Okay?
Posted by: Ptah   2004-2-5 9:48:14 PM  

#6  Don't worry sane folks... I got most of 'em under control or close surv... surval.. survienc.... we keeps a close watch. No laughing white folks.... faisals one of you.
Posted by: Nuss Ratchett   2004-2-5 6:07:05 PM  

#5  said the hospital administrator from Alexandria, Virginia.

Yikes...Don't drink the water in that hospital. Spooky isn't it..these people in positions to do so much harm!!
Posted by: B   2004-2-5 11:34:20 AM  

#4  lucky ,evidently you have missed a few things the islamic militants have done in the last few years. let them take their"jihad" and shove it. have you not noticed if the price of bananas goes up they call for a jihad
Posted by: smokeysinse   2004-2-5 9:36:42 AM  

#3  Usama Mustafa, if he's real, should have problems finding work in the US once he returns. Not because he's Muslim, but because he's a treasonous bastard.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-2-5 9:07:55 AM  

#2  The United States doesn't blame Israel too much and doesn't defend Israel too much.
The United States doesn't blame Saudi Arabia too much and doesn't defend Saudi Arabia too much.
The United States doesn't blame Afghanistan too much and doesn't defend Afghanistan too much.
The United States doesn't blame Moslem dictatorships too much and doesn't defend Moslem dictatorships too much.



Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-2-5 7:36:35 AM  

#1  When it becomes popular to trash islamazoids that's a good thing. If you want to believe fake shit, go for it, it's when the jihadi thing starts to snake is when we have a problem. And I'm not falling for this crap. Smiegle loves the master but for the fat Hobit!
Posted by: Lucky   2004-2-5 12:28:23 AM  

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