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| Turkish Forces want to know, well, everything |
| 2004-03-10 |
| Land Forces Command sent a note to the offices of subgovernors and asked these offices to collect intelligence about ’’people who are in favor of the European Union (EU) and the United States and the high society.’’ That’s pretty broad, can you be more specific? In the directive it sent to military units and offices of subgovernors, Land Forces Command demands collection of information about persons and institutions who carry out ’’separatist and destructive’’ activities. OK, I’d like to know that myself. Just who are you looking at? People who are supporters of EU and the United States, artists, high society groups, Satanists, Masonic groups, minorities, and internet groups are among people about whom the Land Forces Command wanted to receive information. Internet groups, huh? Guess that means you, Murat. Istanbul Second Armored Brigade Command sent the note to Kadikoy, Maltepe, Kartal and Sultanbeyli Subgovernors’ Offices and announced the people about whom it wants intelligence as, ’’minorities, and those who tend to see themselves as minority like Circassian, Romanian, Abkhazian, Albanian and Bosnian groups, high society groups, groups of artists, groups formed by children of rich families, sects, Satanists, Ku Klax Klan, Masonic groups, internet groups, sexual groups, drug groups, and meditation groups.’’ That pretty much covers everyone. The directive asked the offices to search for intentions, financial sources, actions, and connections of these groups. The directive also wanted information about authors and intellectuals who work against Turkey. Better budget for a lot of overtime. |
| Posted by:Steve |
| #14 Bodyguard> Oh, please! Masons are pretty much the definition of "secret society". No Mason is allowed to reveal the identity of another living Mason, am I wrong about that? That's why you require methods of "recognition". And Masonic teachings were hidden for a very long while until they were exposed by former members. If you had behaved as any ordinary religious cult and openly prosylytize, then you'd not invite as much paranoia as you tend to do. That's besides the question of whether you do good or ill. |
| Posted by: Aris Katsaris 2004-3-11 7:19:47 PM |
| #13 Aris: You're way off base on the Masons. Most of the guys I knew in the Masons were construction workers and black NCOs in the US Army. The Masons are in fact kind of a support group for black NCOs. The only secret thing about it is how it has helped them overcome racism. Someone needs to write a book about that whole chapter in Masonic history. It's little known and very interesting, I'd imagine. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2004-3-10 11:54:41 PM |
| #12 Aris - We're not a secret society. I wear my ring every where I go, and have the emblems on my car. We are simply a group of fellows who have a few secrets. (Recognition mostly, all taken from the Bible) |
| Posted by: Bodyguard 2004-3-10 10:59:37 PM |
| #11 Bodyguard> Secrecy and secret memberships both invite conspiracy speculation. You say that "this and this and that famous person" was a Mason, and soon people start wondering how much of world's history was influenced by this. And Masonry seems to be intentionally feeding this paranoia. I somehow don't see why building clinics or doing other works of charity requires any kind of secret organization behind it. |
| Posted by: Aris Katsaris 2004-3-10 10:14:56 PM |
| #10 "The high society"? Mucky, you wanna take that one? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2004-3-10 3:45:29 PM |
| #9 All due to the "Stonecutter's" episode on the Simpsons |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-10 3:26:30 PM |
| #8 B & Mike, We (Masons) aren't all out to take over the world, just to try to make it a little better place for all mankind. (viz. Shriners Childrens hospitals, York Rite eye clinics, Scottish Rite burn centers, etc.) The Illumiwhoevers aren't associated with us, just an urban myth. If we wanted to take over the world, we would have done it back in '45 with Churchill & Truman, with the help of John Wayne. (All Masons) Conspiracy Theorists love speculating about us though... |
| Posted by: Bodyguard 2004-3-10 2:33:50 PM |
| #7 "Just keep an eye on everyone!" |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-3-10 12:18:08 PM |
| #6 I hope they really don't believe the sex groups get together to discuss politics and state subversion. |
| Posted by: Lil Dhimmi 2004-3-10 12:07:33 PM |
| #5 But notice that the one group they need to monitor is the one not included: Islamists. Ah, but they did, Spot: groups formed by children of rich families, sects and gun-sexual groups. |
| Posted by: Steve 2004-3-10 11:39:15 AM |
| #4 ...B- No, the Illuminati are everywhere. The Masons are just their front. Mike |
| Posted by: Mike Kozlowski 2004-3-10 11:27:33 AM |
| #3 Muck-for once I agree (Satanists, too?). But notice that the one group they need to monitor is the one not included: Islamists. |
| Posted by: Spot 2004-3-10 11:26:44 AM |
| #2 i dint know turkey have ku klax klan. |
| Posted by: muck4doo 2004-3-10 10:50:48 AM |
| #1 there are those Masons again. I think I've heard about them as related to the WOT maybe two times before this week, and now they are everywhere...EVERYWHERE I tell you! |
| Posted by: B 2004-3-10 10:49:11 AM |