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China and France to conduct joint naval drills
2004-03-15
As the Blogfather says, they’re on the other side.
The navies of China and France begin joint naval exercises on Tuesday off the northern Chinese coast in what Beijing says will be the "most comprehensive" military drills with a foreign power by a fleet under the command of the People’s Liberation Army. Although they are being conducted some distance from Taiwan, the exercises will take place just days before sensitive presidential elections on the island, over which China claims sovereignty.
well, we know how Paris feels about democracy ....
France angered Taiwan recently by strongly condemning President Chen Shui-bian’s plan to hold a referendum on missile defence alongside Saturday’s election, prompting Taipei to suspend top-level ties with Paris. France is also lobbying EU countries to drop the 15-year-old embargo on arms sales to China, imposed after the brutal 1989 suppression of pro-democracy demonstrators in Beijing and other mainland cities.
"Oui. Those guys've been dead for over ten years. They don't matter anymore."
The exercises involve staging search and rescue missions, refuelling exercises and tactical helicopter exchanges - a level above recent Chinese contacts with other visiting western navies, which have been restricted to routine drills and communication exchanges. Ju Xinchun, the captain of the Harbin, a guided-missile destroyer, said at the base of the North China Fleet of the PLA Navy headquartered in Qingdao, that the Chinese had much to learn from the history and combat effectiveness of the French. "The French navy is experienced, and we are eager to learn from them about their experience in coordination skills in joint exercises," said Mr Ju.
Not to be ungenerous, but does anybody recall the last time the French navy won one?
Zhang Chu, an editor at International Outlook, a Shanghai-based magazine, said France had maintained strong ties through much of the 1990s with China’s defence establishment, despite the arms embargo.
I’ll bet - it seems to be a pattern with the French ....
"China wants to co-operate with traditional European powers, and France, as a stringent critic of the US, and a fervent advocate of lifting the arms embargo, was the country likely to take the initiative," Mr Zhang said. Andrew Yang, a defence analyst based in Taipei, played down the significance of the exercise’s proximity to the Taiwan elections, saying the drills were similar to those conducted recently by the PLA Navy with the fleets of India and Pakistan. "It does not have direct implications for the situation in Taiwan," said Mr Yang, who said it was more a reflection of China’s determination to forge ties with foreign fleets. Christine Allain, second in command of a French light frigate participating in the exercises, was quoted in China’s press as saying that she was impressed by the skills of the Chinese naval officers and their "good command of English". The five-day tour is the 12th by French warships to China
Posted by:anon

#8  I think the French got taken on this one.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-3-15 6:18:47 PM  

#7  Thanks, but with Chirac the jokes just write themselves.
Posted by: Matt   2004-3-15 5:55:36 PM  

#6  Matt: ROTFLMAO till it hurts. Bravo Zulu. Well done old chap.
Posted by: Zpaz   2004-3-15 5:47:28 PM  

#5  Guess what? The PLAN (Peoples Liberation Army Naval forces) used to buy TONS of French Navy stuff. Mostly costal defense equipment and some small patrol craft. Maybe the French wan to sell them their used Aircraft Carrier? Although I don’t have a lot of respect for the French government, they do produce some really good armaments. This doesn’t count when it comes to Carriers. My guess is that they are showcasing some gear for the PLA in hopes to get a buy or two under the table now and more when (and if) the arms embargo gets lifted. Question for the class: Is what France is doing called multilateralism or unilateralism?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)   2004-3-15 4:20:52 PM  

#4  Pull.out.of.NATO.
Posted by: Ray   2004-3-15 4:05:11 PM  

#3  Did y'all know that either country even had a navy to speak of?, cause I didn't.
Posted by: Jen   2004-3-15 3:55:45 PM  

#2  Remember that famous photo of the One Chinese Man standing stock still in front of the column of four Chinese tanks? Chirac was cheering for the tanks. "That man, he is so ...unilateral, so lacking in nuance!"
Posted by: Matt   2004-3-15 2:29:04 PM  

#1  So France is showing the PRC how to surrender and the PRC is showing France how to build targets!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)   2004-3-15 2:06:29 PM  

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