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Afghanistan/South Asia
Pakistan doesn't have a clue who's holed up in Waziristan
2004-03-21
As helicopters circled overhead and gunfire crackled in the distance, a Pakistani general said today many of the al-Qaida fighters surrounded near the Afghan border were Chechen or Uzbek, and he was uncertain whether they included Osama bin Laden's Egyptian deputy Ayman al-Zawahri. Although Lt. Gen. Safdar Hussain hedged on the identity of the senior figure, he said he still believed a "high-value" terrorist target remained in the trap and had not escaped across the border into Afghanistan.
No doubt, somebody has to stick around to give orders. But if Ayman was in town, my guess is that he left during one of the cease-fires ...
The operation in the arid, rugged terrain of South Waziristan raged into its fifth day with no sign of surrender from 400 to 500 foreign fighters and local tribesmen facing a thunderous barrage of artillery by night and Cobra helicopter gunship fire by day.
Quite a demonstration of the Pak army's competence when presented with an actual military problem, rather than just staging a coup...
Hussain said 5,000 to 6,000 Pakistani troops were deployed in Pakistan's largest anti-terror campaign, conducted across a 25-square-mile swath of territory within 10 miles of the Afghan frontier.
I assume Task Force 121 is waiting happily on the other side.
About 2,500 soldiers were fighting the militants and the rest conducting searches, he said. Pakistani officials said a dozen American personnel are helping with technical intelligence and surveillance. "I would not rule out any possibility, but with this level of resistance, even after 48 hours (of bombardment), I believe the high-value target is still there," Hussain told about 40 journalists flown by Pakistan's military to this town about three miles from the battle. He said the fighters were a blend of foreigners and members of the local Yargul Khel tribe, and that this was the first of a series of operations to clear the lawless tribal region of militants.
Basically, it's al-Qaeda and whatever's left of the IMU with their Pashtun flunkies. Just like old times ...
The military also showed journalists in Wana belongings and equipment seized from a Chechen fighter who was killed, including grenades, detonators, a traditional pakor hat and prayer beads. Also displayed were four locally made rifles, a dozen grenades, AK-47s and boxes of Soviet-era ammunition seized from tribesmen. The Pakistani army has intercepted some radio conversations of militants inside the encampment -- mostly in the Chechen and Uzbek languages and some in Arabic. One radio intercept in Uzbek or Chechen said a man wounded when he tried unsuccessfully to flee the area in a vehicle on the first day of the operation would need "four men to carry him and 10 or 11 people to protect him," Hussain revealed. That raised suspicion the man was important and "most likely Chechen or Uzbek, as the intercepts were in those languages," he said. Al-Zawahri is Egyptian, and would be expected to have mostly Arabic-speaking protectors. But Hussain said it was possible a figure like al-Zawahri would be guarded by fighters of different nationalities. He also said the protected man could have been a top local tribesman.
That last part fits with the Debka account, at any rate. Our public knowledge of Binny's praetorian guard is scant at best except for the number of controllers that keep coming out of it, but there are said to be Chechens in it.
Last year, Russian authorities revealed that al-Zawahri was detained in Dagestan in 1997 after visiting Chechnya under an assumed name and held in a pretrial detention center for a few months. He was released and expelled from Russia after authorities failed to establish his identity.
To where? Egypt already had a price on his head ...
Posted by:Dan Darling

#6  Unlike Iraq, Pakistan does not have oil, which limits the resources it can devote to developing weapons technology.
But they don't need oil when they can barter their nukey-tech to Jong-il in exchange for The Idiots Guide To The No-Dong. How d'you think they developed the Ghauri so fast? Don't forget KRL's strenuous efforts to turn every rogue state from the DMZ to the Atlantic into a nuclear power... OK, that's a bit unfair, AFAIK they never tried to sell stuff to Omar Hasan al-Bashir (be grateful for small mercies!)
Posted by: Dave   2004-3-21 6:41:05 PM  

#5  It's not 'hypocritical' when you're forced to choose among unpleasant options. It's called reality. Try some.
Posted by: UncleWar   2004-3-21 9:53:25 AM  

#4  STFU, u commie indie. U were Russia's bitch for a long time and ever since they went kapoot u were humping the US leg. Pakis hv been and are staunch ally of US. Had US not ditched Pakis in favor of forging close ties with ur cuntry (note spelling) then we would hv been a much prosperous and developed nation without these iliterate jihadis and other assholes afghis and foreign fighters lounging around. Even now is not too late for US to ditch the bitch. Economically too the US is now facing joblessness in IT and other sectors due to shifiting of major corps to the region with penny workers. And who hv spoiled the market almost in all other countries as well for decent, experienced professional trying to earn a good living. Where i live, we get chartered a/c from India willing to work for an office boy's salary. And don't even ask about the MBAs, they would work for food and shelter only. Might even clean ur car for free.
Posted by: sakattack   2004-3-21 8:44:11 AM  

#3  I'm not going to respond to this right now, but I'll provide a link to a lengthy comment post that I wrote some months ago, regarding this subject.

Here are some relevant resources:
http://terrorism.freeservers.com
http://terrorism.reallybites.com
Pakistan-Facts.com

The Bush administration's policies regarding rogue regimes like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are hypocrital, and these policies are contributing to problems overseas.
Posted by: Aakash   2004-3-21 4:08:10 AM  

#2  The threat from Pakistan, and from it's unstable goverment, to the world is much great than any threat that the former Iraqi regime may have posed.

Actually, no. Unlike Iraq, Pakistan is surrounded by strong countries on every side - Iran, China, India and now US-occupied Afghanistan. Unlike Iraq, Pakistan does not have oil, which limits the resources it can devote to developing weapons technology. Unlike Iraq, Pakistan is not close to (and can't threaten) 2/3 of the world's oil reserves. Also, unlike pre-war Iraq, Pakistan is cooperating with the US on weapons of mass destruction. More to the point, unlike Iraq, Pakistan has had a long history of cooperating with the US against Soviet expansionism - these decades-long ties are water under the bridge, but have left some memory of the good old days in the Pakistani establishment.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-3-21 12:56:45 AM  

#1  This is where the real threat is... The threat from Pakistan, and from it's unstable goverment, to the world is much great than any threat that the former Iraqi regime may have posed.
Posted by: Aakash   2004-3-21 12:18:25 AM  

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