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Afghanistan/South Asia
US quietly aiding Pakistan against al-Qaeda
2004-03-23
The United States is providing a wide array of behind-the-scenes support to Pakistani forces combating suspected fighters for Al Qaeda near the Afghan border, including spy satellites, electronic-eavesdropping planes and sophisticated ground sensors, American officials in Washington and the region said. As part of a broader American offensive just across the rugged boundary in eastern Afghanistan, hundreds of American troops have also recently set up what the military calls "blocking positions" at strategic junctions along the frontier to trap and kill militants fleeing the Pakistani attacks. Largely from Afghanistan's airspace or above it, a range of American military sensors are peering across the mountainous border region into Pakistan. Spy satellites zero in on suspected enemy camps. Air Force E-8C Joint Stars ground-surveillance jets and remotely piloted Predator aircraft track enemy movements. RC-135 Rivet Joint aircraft scoop up cellphone calls and other electronic transmissions. U-2 spy planes soar high overhead.

In recent weeks and months, the American military has provided Pakistani forces with helicopters and specialized training, as well as a range of sophisticated ground sensors that can count vehicles on mountain roads and measure their loads by the vibrations they emit. The military has some technology that can be used to detect tunnels, but it was unclear whether such devices, if available, would have been effective in finding a mile-long tunnel from a besieged mud fortress that Pakistani officials discovered Monday. It might have been an escape route for militant leaders, the officials said. "We're trying to meet whatever requests they have," an American military official in the region said.

So far, the United States has provided primarily technical and tactical assistance to Pakistani security forces. Pakistan has not requested American ground forces to help root out suspected Qaeda fighters in the tribal areas, and Pakistani officials have publicly stated that no United States forces are involved in their offensive. But senior American military officials said that small numbers of commandos attached to Joint Task Force 121, a secret unit made up of military Special Operations forces and Central Intelligence officers, have conducted cross-border operations. Those commandos, who helped track down and capture Saddam Hussein in Iraq last December, have not been directly involved in the pitched battle between 7,000 Pakistani troops and several hundred militants in a small cluster of villages near the Afghan border, American officials said.

In the past, American forces have been authorized to pursue hostile forces into Pakistan from Afghanistan, if United States troops maintained "continuous contact" with the fighters, a senior officer with experience in Afghanistan said. "We have had synchronized operations in the past, but I would characterize our current operations as parallel and complementary," said Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty, a military spokesman in Afghanistan. The senior American commander in the region, Gen. John P. Abizaid, met with senior Pakistani officials on Monday. Officials at the United States Central Command in Tampa, Fla., would not say whom General Abizaid met, saying his visit was long-scheduled as part of his regional duties. But Pentagon officials said it was virtually certain the stepped up Pakistani offensive came up during the general's visit.
Mr. Davis laments in comment #1 that we're giving the ISI real time intel. Fine. A big message is being sent here, and we haven't commented on it here at Rantburg: the Northwest Frontier is no longer inviolate. For centuries the local tribes ruled the frontier free of incursion by either the central government of the month or by a foreign army. How many tried and failed?

Til this week. The Pak army achieved tactical surprise (amazing in and of itself), but more than that, Osama and al-Q have been sent a message -- there is nowhere they can go where they can be away from us, if we but catch a glimpse of where they might be. Satellite imaging, real-time data analysis, highly mobile, highly trained, superbly motivated small infantry and special-ops forces, political suasion with allies, all have combined to make the Northwest Frontier a place where we can mount an operation whenever we deem it necessary.

A news report here yesterday said that al-Q might establish a base in the deep Sahara. Let them. Give us a glimpse of where they might be, and we'll pay a visit. And that thought makes it no surprise at all that we have small units helping the local militas in Chad, Niger and Mali. And no surprise that other small units are helping a couple dozen other countries around the world. We're building relationships, expertise, comm support and intel in dozens of out of the way places. Someone is thinking way ahead here, preparing the ground for the day that al-Q finds yet another sanctuary under assault, and another bigwig finds it necessary to hightail it in an SUV.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#16  Jen, you're a gem! Thanks!
Posted by: Steve White   2004-3-23 10:41:47 PM  

#15  Steve, check out this:HTML Cheatsheet for script and color codes on changing font color.
Posted by: Jen   2004-3-23 7:41:23 PM  

#14  It's not that I haven't decided, it just that I'm still figuring out how to change them to AF blue without hosing them up. Any hints?
Posted by: Steve   2004-3-23 7:27:58 PM  

#13  Ahem, I'm the salmon colored comments, Dan's the bright yellow, Fred has pale yellow, and the other Steve hasn't decided yet :-)
Posted by: Steve White   2004-3-23 6:33:17 PM  

#12   So we're giving the ISI first hand- real world knowledge of our technical means of intelligence. I wonder how long this will take to get to Al Q.
So what? They can't duplicate it. All they're getting is the final product. They have no access to the aircraft, the camera system, the control system, or any of the encryption gear aboard. All the Paks are seeing is the imagery. While I'd give both my remaining eye teeth to see the stuff myself, I'm not sure it's going to make that much difference to Purv and his pals. They have to rely on the CIA telling them what they're seeing. It takes quite a bit of training to actually use the information those drones supply, especially the ones using low-light, radar, multi-spectral, and infrared imaging systems.

As for "limitations", we're supplying what we want Pak to see, not necessarily everything. You can't make any significant assumptions from that - not unless you're willing to accept responsibility for some HUGE errors.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-3-23 12:43:42 PM  

#11  Mike,

I agree completely. My concern is that they then know exactly how well we can see them and what timing problems are as opposed to them knowing only approximately and then having to wonder about what we can really do when we go full out.
Posted by: Mr. Davis   2004-3-23 12:31:44 PM  

#10  Yeah, Cheney's too busy to change YOUR diapers, Muck4brains.
Posted by: Ptah   2004-3-23 11:36:19 AM  

#9  I think Dan's comment above hits the nail on the head. Musharaff is pushing to assert control of the tribal areas. Lots of reasons for doing that, some of which are to our advantage if he is really successful.
Posted by: rkb   2004-3-23 11:12:34 AM  

#8  spencer people with cosntipation usually not have problem with accident. they have problem going period. chainey to busy hiding to change dipers.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-3-23 10:48:44 AM  

#7  Geez, Spencer, what are you, 8 or 9? You should be learning how to use Legos instead of posting on blogs. What a kiddie 'tard. Bye bye!
Posted by: .com   2004-3-23 10:42:59 AM  

#6  Hey guys have u seen Bush espacially after the release of Clark's Book....it seems like he has a constipation....I even heard that he has started wearing diapers, in order to avoid embarassment,...and guess who changes his diapers...Paul Wolfowitz and Dick cheney!!!!!!
Posted by: Spencer   2004-3-23 10:38:01 AM  

#5  ..There is another message as well to the Islamonazis in the Pakistani military and intel services:

If we can see them, we can see YOU.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2004-3-23 10:29:21 AM  

#4  Dan,

Thanks for the additional comment. It looks like we're becoming the world's watchman, but if we see anything we call the local gendarmes who may or may not be effective in catching the bad guy between cease fires. In the case of the Pakistani's it is difficult to tell who is how securely on our side as opposed to the bad guy's. I'm not sure we've really gained anything other than making Osama check into a new cave based on what I've seen coming out of NWF or FATA. This strategy seems like a gamble that will have a thousand fathers or a trip to the orphanage depending on the outcome. I pray for success, but wish the fruit were more apparent.
Posted by: Mr. Davis   2004-3-23 10:28:43 AM  

#3  good comments.
Posted by: B   2004-3-23 7:08:51 AM  

#2  Just a correction, the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) has always been part of the mainstream of Pakistani society and politics.
It's the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), that have been left to themselves since the days of the British Raj.
Posted by: Paul Moloney   2004-3-23 2:32:37 AM  

#1  So we're giving the ISI first hand- real world knowledge of our technical means of intelligence. I wonder how long this will take to get to Al Q.
Posted by: Mr. Davis   2004-3-23 12:31:23 AM  

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