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France expects to win China high-speed rail deal
2004-03-31
Nicole Fontaine, deputy minister for French industry, said Tuesday she expected China to choose French giant Alstom to build a high-speed rail link between Beijing and Shanghai by the year-end. French transport group Alstom is competing against Japan’s Shinkansen and the German ICE for the tender which has yet to be officially unveiled by the Chinese authorities. Fontaine is due to visit China in May to discuss possible Sino-French nuclear projects.
Posted by:Seafarious

#15   Jews lied to President Bush about WMD and now they say that he lied. BTW, Rantburg is a Zionist propaganda BBS that censors truth while Americans die in Iraq on basis of Jewish lies.
Posted by: CJ TROLL   2004-03-31 6:34:28 AM  

#14  Good point, Shipman.
But it would be fun to watch them go flying off into space when she hits about a buck ten. It'd be like Chinese Disneyworld.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-03-31 7:46:19 PM  

#13  Uh, no.
Guess I'll have to drive after all--like Shipman, I love trains, but not expensive trains.
Posted by: Jen   2004-03-31 12:18:04 PM  

#12  A few years ago, the voters of Texas stupidly said NO to a TGV Texas train system--very dumb!

They were smart to reject the proposal. The high taxes you see in much of Europe is spent on infrastructure like this - infrastructure that isn't economically viable on its own, and has to be subsidized by taxpayers. Would you pay a $3 per gallon gas tax for a bullet train?
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-03-31 12:11:33 PM  

#11  will the French bring their own rail-bombs, or do the Chinese have some homegrown?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-03-31 9:55:57 AM  

#10  Jen, the Florida voters said yes to such a high speed rail. I love trains, riding trains, photographing trains... but this is a rathole.

I think Texas was wise reject such a plan. Florida has already caved to Mickey Mouse, the stop in Orlando will be at Disney World not the convention centre, I'm begging more stops will be added and the average speed continue to decline.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-31 9:52:31 AM  

#9  How in the hell are you gonna ride on the roof of a TGV?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-03-31 9:48:55 AM  

#8  I don't know how it measures against the Shinkansen.

Pretty close, but the Chinese can't buy Japanese trains. They wanted to, but when plans leaked out the protests started. Chinese still remember the Japanese invasion and occupation and hold a grudge.
Posted by: Steve   2004-03-31 8:24:17 AM  

#7  I thought Canada was already selling nuclear technology to China. We beat them to it!
Posted by: Rafael   2004-03-31 7:30:03 AM  

#6  I know, JFM.
A few years ago, the voters of Texas stupidly said NO to a TGV Texas train system--very dumb!
(I don't like to fly and it would be nice to have another fast way to get from Dallas to Austin, Houston and San Antonio.)
Posted by: Jen   2004-03-31 7:09:15 AM  

#5  Jen

The French will do anything for money and Chirac is turning Marianne into a whore but high speed trains are their realm. France's TGV is much faster than the German train and despite this it hasn't suffered accidents unlike Germany's ICE. I don't know how it measures against the Shinkansen.
Posted by: JFM   2004-03-31 7:03:00 AM  

#4  Fred, sorry, but we've got 2 troll cleanups on Aisle 3!
Posted by: Jen   2004-03-31 6:53:12 AM  

#3  [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: JJ TROLL   2004-03-31 6:34:28 AM  

#2  Those French snakes!
They'll do anything for money...and then there's their Anti-American ideology.
Their idea for a EUroweenie defense force didn't go over so well and they can't trust Putin, so Jacques and Dominique thought they'd try the Chinese.
Interesting.
However, the Chinese are as inscrutable as ever and their loyalty to France is as changeable as the I Ching.
BTW, I rode on the Chinese railroad in 1988: we Western tourists were the only people on it, plus our Red Army escort.
I wonder who's going to ride the Chinese TGV?
Posted by: Jen   2004-03-31 6:12:24 AM  

#1  As much as I hate to admit it the French know more about high speed rail than anybody else. The nuclear deal makes me a little nervoius though. At least when the Frogs built their nuc plants they only built one or two different reactor designs
Posted by: Cheddarhead   2004-03-31 6:05:52 AM  

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