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Iraq-Jordan
Smells like Mogadishu
2004-03-31
A bomb exploded under a U.S. military vehicle west of Baghdad on Wednesday, killing five soldiers, the military said. At least four people, including one American and possibly other foreign nationals, were killed in a separate attack. Crowds burned and mutilated their bodies. The explosive device that killed the American soldiers blew up when their vehicle ran over it, U.S. army Col. Jill Morgenthaler said in Baghdad. The attack occurred in Anbar province, which encompasses Fallujah, Ramadi and other towns where anti-U.S. insurgents are active. Residents said the bomb attack occurred in Malahma, 19 kilometres northwest of Fallujah.

In an unrelated attack Wednesday, gunmen in Fallujah attacked two civilian cars that residents said were carrying foreign nationals. The occupants of the cars were killed and their vehicles were set on fire. Witnesses saw at least four bodies. Footage from Associated Press Television News showed a charred body of one of the slain men, and the targeted vehicles in flames nearby. Some of the slain men were wearing flak jackets, said Safa Mohammedi, a resident. Although nationalities were not immediately known, APTN footage showed one American passport near a body. Last Sunday, a Canadian security expert was killed in northern Iraq in an ambush by masked gunmen. Andy Bradsell, 33, of Victoria, a former British marine, died when a convoy he was escorting was attacked.

After the Fallujah attack Wednesday, angry crowds dragged the bodies through the streets, dismembered them and hanged some of the mutilated corpses, said resident Abdul Aziz Mohammed. One man beat a corpse with a metal pole. Residents tied a cord to another body, tied it to a car and drove it down a street. "The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep," Mohammed said. "I saw it myself."
Black hawk down in the remake, with different actors and scene
The identities of the slain men were unclear. One resident displayed what appeared to be dog tags taken from one body. Residents also said there were weapons in the targeted cars.
Posted by:Murat

#40  Fred Pruitt, nine more Americans died today.

The truth will set you free.
Posted by: Free Speech TROLL   2004-03-31 10:06:52 PM  

#39  First off that bridge MUST be destroyed. Surround Fallujah with barbwire fences. No one leaves and no one enters. Set up a camp and put every resident in it for 1 week during which time every building is searched. Any homes with insurgent materials are destroyed and the owners are jailed, all weapons are taken. The Fallujah quarantine takes place until the Iraqi government takes over on June 30th.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American   2004-03-31 9:48:27 PM  

#38  Lil Dhimmi may have something - MuRat usually debates and has more comments in his post.
Posted by: Dan   2004-03-31 3:50:07 PM  

#37   Are you guys sure that's really Murat? It just sounds like someone being sarcastic to me.
Posted by: Lil Dhimmi   2004-03-31 3:14:38 PM  

#36  20 [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: Jarhead TROLL

>That's actually funny; since I'm from the lower peninsula of Michigan "troll" is a correct slang for me according to those Yuper's (U.Pers) who live "above the bridge" (Mackinac).
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-03-31 3:11:55 PM  

#35  what is the rat back....been a long time murat....been waiting for an article like this to show yourself again?
Do not fool yourself this is no mogadishu.At leasts the fighters in somalia had the guts to fight (albeit lightly armed US troops) where these pussy ass sunni arabs kill unarmed civilians and then show how descent and civilizing islam really is by mutilating bodies..we are there and we are going to stay...
If you look at iraq the trouble is mainly in the sunni areas and areas adjacent to iran. Now it is human nature to be pissed when you are no longer king of the hill - this is the sunni situation.

These bastards wouldn't try this same shit with the US military and especially the marines who are in control of this sector.
Try posting articles over the next few weeks as operations are conducted in falluja.
Posted by: Dan   2004-03-31 1:30:51 PM  

#34  I think the inspiration for this thing is the 3-11 bombing in Madrid. With Zappy responding to that atrocity with a promised Iraq bug-out and a Bush-Blair sliming, those actions can't help but promote renewed violence in the Sunni Triangle.

We are, thank God, Americans, and not Spaniards. And if Syria is involved in this matter, the consequences will be staggering.
Posted by: mrp   2004-03-31 1:10:27 PM  

#33  I've got nothing snarky to say about this. But this war needs to go forward targeting the brains. I think if Falluja is the battle ground then prepare the battle ground for our success.

The civiliain population knows who the bad guys are in their midst. It's their call on who they want to support.

Cadres of Kurds maybe. Whatever I think most Americans will support a major blow against these enemies.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-03-31 12:37:26 PM  

#32  Shutdown & lockdown the town and send the Marines door to door with some IP's or Iraq reg army along for a little meet and greet with the locals. This type of crap cannot be let to stand without punishment!!
Posted by: Bill from NYC   2004-03-31 12:25:43 PM  

#31  Oh yeah - there needs to be a "nice" delete script! Seeing Jarhead next to TROLL instantly pissed me off! That won't do, that won't do at all!
Posted by: .com   2004-03-31 12:14:12 PM  

#30  Fred please delete one if you will.
Deleted at Jarhead request, not to be confused with troll deletion, sorry.
Posted by: Steve   2004-03-31 12:10:12 PM  

#29  FoxNews says 3 are confirmed to be American. No word on the other's nationality, nor if the woman was an American. Regardless, this pretty much clears the decks for me. Sorry for being a bit of a Chauvanist, but killing innocent women (and children) brings out some of those Clan of the Cave Bear reactions in me. Guess acts like this make me feel like I belong to Kreb's tribe, not Ayla's.
Posted by: .com   2004-03-31 11:58:20 AM  

#28  The even worse news is that one of the 4 murdered was a woman (and at least one was also an American).
Posted by: Jen   2004-03-31 11:48:16 AM  

#27  This is too much. I hope we do something about it but fear we won't. All we'll do is send out a few patrols and roundup a couple bad guys. That really angers me.
There are more pics here - Warning - they are very graphic.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2004-03-31 11:41:26 AM  

#26  let mongolians do it. maybe itll remind of old times.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-03-31 11:40:33 AM  

#25  Raptor,

I agree with you but I'd like the Iraqi army to do the work. They will not be held to the same PC standards as we will.
Posted by: mhw   2004-03-31 11:28:57 AM  

#24  it an al-qaeda thing.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-03-31 11:21:26 AM  

#23   It's not a Paleostain thing, it's not a Somalian thing, it's not an Iraqi thing. Maybe it's a Muslim thing.


yet not a Kurdish thing, or an Afghan thing. Maybe its an arab thing(granted somalis are not arabs, but theyre historically close to arabs)? Or specifically an arab muslim thing? Or arab muslims who are still backwards??
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-03-31 11:20:02 AM  

#22  I thought this sort of barbarism was restricted to the Gaza Strip.

And Somalia. Not Fallujah. It's not a Paleostain thing, it's not a Somalian thing, it's not an Iraqi thing.

Maybe it's a Muslim thing.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-03-31 11:11:58 AM  

#21  sorry about the double post, Fred please delete one if you will. My computer is being insubordinate.
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-03-31 11:02:09 AM  

#20  [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by: Jarhead TROLL   2004-03-31 11:01:20 AM  

#19  It will be interesting to see the mil response. I know a little bit about LtGen Conway of the MEF over there. My take is that we get back on the offense immediately start sending the company and battalion level sweeps w/full air and combined arms support. The muslims only respect force and power, give it to them in spades. Any resistance should be crushed w/extreme prejudice and derision. All domiciles that harbor insurgents get razed w/out hesitation.

I know what I'm about to say will never happen, but let me verbal masturbate for a moment: I'd go Genghis on their asses - 1) All enemy kia's get their heads decapitated and put on pikes outside the Marine Compound. 2) the beheaded bodies are hung upside down from that bridge in Fallujah. 3) better yet, scratch number two, just blow that fucking bridge up. 4) Snipers on every roof top 5) All muzy leaders who tacitly approve of attacking coalition forces are targeted for sanction. 6) If after 40 days Fallujah will not comply - give them the history lesson of Dresden.
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-03-31 11:01:13 AM  

#18  How about we give the leftist hippies a demonstration of what "indiscriminant bombing" looks like. All those B-52s are probably pining for their old "Rolling Thunder" days, and I bet the B-1s would like a taste as well. Set 'em loose on the Triangle with some "Bomb till the rubble bounces" orders.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2004-03-31 10:21:15 AM  

#17  Every swinging dick in the imediate area
chain-gunned.
Suround Fallhjah.
Search every car,building,and empty lot.
Every building with weapons inside destroyed.
Anyone caught with a weapon kill them.
Any car caught with weapons inside destroyed,along with the owners home.
The neighborhoods where these atrocitys occur will be razed to the ground and the ground salted with tons of salt.
Posted by: Raptor   2004-03-31 10:15:10 AM  

#16  These terrorists are about to find out what would have happened if we stayed in Mogadishu.
Posted by: Charles   2004-03-31 10:10:26 AM  

#15  Hyenas do this. Humans don't. I thought this sort of barbarism was restricted to the Gaza Strip. Should something like this ever happen again, the marines should use helicopter gunships for crowd control. Such animals forfeit their right to live.
Posted by: RWV   2004-03-31 10:09:24 AM  

#14  Murat's like a wort; when you figure that it's gone away for good, damn it, it shows up again somewhere else...
Posted by: steve d.   2004-03-31 9:42:10 AM  

#13  Don't fret, boys! The Marines control Fallujah now. It'll get taken car of.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2004-03-31 9:39:14 AM  

#12  There is a traditional solution to this kind of problem: Concentration Camps.

Anyone think that the administration is prepared to go there yet?
Posted by: Hiryu   2004-03-31 9:36:26 AM  

#11  Where's Murat? I don't see him?

Anyways, I guess it's a good thing that we're not very good at controlling populations. Not much experience in it since World War 2. But I'd love to see the gloves come off, time to get medieval on these scum.
Posted by: AllahHateMe   2004-03-31 9:32:53 AM  

#10  Murat

A few days ago I was unable to remember the name of that prime minister of yours who was a Kurd. Could you be so kind to refresh my memory? The other guy was telling that Turkey had been no better to Kurds than Saddam and it would have been handy to be able to use the name of that PM.

Regards
Posted by: JFM   2004-03-31 9:30:34 AM  

#9  When your 'prophet' is a child-molesting mass murderer, I figure this is all in a days work for these religion of peace types...
Posted by: steve d.   2004-03-31 9:29:46 AM  

#8  by the way Murat - you're a POS
Posted by: Frank G   2004-03-31 9:27:53 AM  

#7  Smells like Hama
Posted by: Frank G   2004-03-31 9:22:06 AM  

#6  I see Murat's back with his favorite aphrodisiac -- dead Americans.

Hey, Murat, when are you going to get around to exposing the evidence you have of my true identity? I've been waiting for months, and I'm starting to think maybe you were just trying to bully me into silence. C'mon, 'rat-boy, put up the evidence or come up with an apology.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-03-31 9:05:23 AM  

#5  Welcome back to hell, Murat! Where've you been?

Because Iraqis on the ground've seen a whole different story ...
Posted by: Edward Yee   2004-03-31 9:05:10 AM  

#4  The problem is they dont fear the americans like they did saddam.

Hey I got an idea, how about we announce that the left is right, we apologize to saddam, and reinstall him in power.

Since Saddam is likely to kill these fools himself, it would be an victorious loss.

In fact, lets give him mustard gas, just so he can make it easy.

Wow, this coffee is just too strong...
Posted by: flash91   2004-03-31 9:04:03 AM  

#3  I hate to say it but the SS knew how to quell the civilian population effectively.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-03-31 8:59:58 AM  

#2  Saw some film this morning of the Fallujahians celebrating the deaths of the Americans. I don't pretend to know the answer, but I do know this: I'd like to see the gloves finally come off. Has martial law been tried yet? I'd like to see Fallujah isolated. I'd like to see the Fallujahians who challenge the US to begin dying in large numbers. Suggestions, anyone?
Posted by: Mark   2004-03-31 8:55:50 AM  

#1  But it isn't Mogadishu!
(Even in the real Mogadishu incident and even though 18 of our fine soldiers were killed, we killed 1,000 of them. If Clintoon hadn't pulled us out of Somalia, we might have gotten on top of the situation even more.)
The Sink Emperor isn't President; George W. Bush is.
The devotees of the Death Cult that is IslamoFascism are trying to make us cut and run from Iraq, but that's not going to happen.
It will take more than a few barbarically-defiled bodies to end Operation Iraqi Freedom.
God rest the souls of those who were murdered.
Hope Jerry Bremer is working out the best way to deal with this evil barbarism and terrorist slaughter even as I type this.
Posted by: Jen   2004-03-31 8:51:35 AM  

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