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26 Iraqis Die in U.S. Strike on Fallujah
2004-04-06
U.S. warplanes firing rockets destroyed four houses in the besieged city of Fallujah late Tuesday, witnesses said. A doctor said 26 Iraqis, including women and children, were killed and 30 wounded in the strike. U.S. Marines have been battling Iraqi guerrillas since Monday in a siege aimed at putting down Iraqi guerrillas in Fallujah, one of their main strongholds. The rockets destroyed the houses in two neighborhoods in the city after nightfall Tuesday, the witnesses said. Rafie al-Issawi, a doctor at Fallujah General Hospital, said the hospital received the bodies of 26 dead along with 30 wounded soon after. He said their wounds suggested they had been in the destroyed houses. The deaths bring the total death toll among Iraqis in Fallujah on Tuesday to 34, including eight during heavy street fighting during the day.
Posted by:Fred

#11  Well Robert, I am sure that those were all factors in Bremmer's mind...(actually, I cannot blame Bremmer for this at all. He was specifically, and maybe against his judgment, ordered by Washington to disband the Iraqi Army).
Posted by: Traveller   2004-04-06 11:33:26 PM  

#10  If the army hadn't been disbanded, and some Baath loyalist in it had decided to pull what we're seeing this week, it would have been with a hell of a lot more organization, training, and supplies. And a lot of that would have come from US. They also would have had a lot of credibility, due to continuity from the previous regime and, well, having an army we kept running behind them.

As it is, they're criminals rebelling against the acknowledged government of Iraq. They may have supplies, and some of them may have training, but there probably won't be as many people running to join them.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-06 11:22:39 PM  

#9  Well, Exactly, Lucky. I know that it is old news but the de-Bathification as the reason disbanding the Iraqi army seemed odd to me then, and seems to be biting us the butt now...the point was to keep them employed and maybe hence a little loyal to their new paymasters...but also, General Patton like with his De-Nazifacation, a realistic apparaisal that, We may need them later.

Be that as it may, I was hoping against hope that Iraq would help avoid the "Big Killing," to come...but now is maybe our last crucial chance to nip this in the bud.

26 dead in Fallujah ain't going to do it. The world may scream, but a headline like, "10,000 Dead in Fallujah, and oddly, all were males between the ages of 15 and 40....." is what I want to see.

If we are not careful, we just may end up being booted out of Iraq even before June 30.

Posted by: Traveller   2004-04-06 11:07:32 PM  

#8  Good points Trav, but thats old news now. Would have been nice to have turned some General or two with promises of "your our guy and those palaces are your new digs".

I once thought that the WoT wasn't going to be won by fighting it out in Iraq. But now I think, MAYBE, that could be true. How to pull Iran into this conflict so as to galvinise American opinion against Iran and their meddling.

But I still think without the toppling of the mullahs we're in a thirty years war with mass death as the price to pay.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-04-06 10:50:43 PM  

#7  BH - Lol! "Dancing that faggy arab dance..."

It would almost be worth the RT airfare to fly you over to Manama, Bahrain, and take you to the StarLite Club in the Gulf Hotel -- just to watch you -- watching them. I can just see your eyes rolling slowly upward and the steam coming off your head, now! *wham* Fucking dead Saudis all over the place, Lol!
Posted by: .com   2004-04-06 10:50:19 PM  

#6  Maybe no a MOAB, but a couple of Hellfires poped at armed gatherings might convince folks that the hard boyz ain't healthy to be around.
Posted by: mojo   2004-04-06 10:43:24 PM  

#5  26 dead, so far. Let's see... 4 civilians murdered and mutilated, six times as many struck down in retaliation. How cute are you now, Fallujah? Are you celebrating? Dancing that faggy arab dance in the streets? You don't have to answer that; we'll talk again when it's 260 dead Iraqis. We haven't even begun to play with you satan-worshipping moon-cultists.
Posted by: BH   2004-04-06 10:42:36 PM  

#4  A good MOAB would change a few hearts and minds.
Posted by: JackAssFestival   2004-04-06 10:38:21 PM  

#3  Okay, Fred, it's a start, but I still see video footage of well armed men, with AK's and RPG's parading here and there, laughing and seen smiling if they don't have a mask covering their face...these are the guys that have to be engaged and taken out on short order, meaning immediately.

They should not be allowed to congregate in the first place, or we end up with battles like Ramdai.

Not to get political, but an entirely different past year may have been painted had Gardner rather than Bremmer stayed on. In retrospect, Bremmer's decision to disband the Iraqi Army may prove to be the overall crucial bad decision.

Plus not killing Sadr some 8 plus months ago...
Posted by: Traveller   2004-04-06 10:31:41 PM  

#2  34! Thats all? When the population realises that hanging tough with the dead enders is a kiss of death, hearts and minds might change.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-04-06 10:31:23 PM  

#1  well, boo friggin' hoo
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-06 10:20:48 PM  

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