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| ITALIAN MUSLIMS: LET TERRORISTS WIN! |
| 2004-04-24 |
| IRAQ: ITALIAN MUSLIMS, "AGAINST THE WAR AND TERRORISM" "Against the war, against terrorism"; this is the title of a document approved by the most important Muslim organisations in Italy: the UCOII, the A.C.E.I., the A.D.M.I., and the Sufi Jerrahi-Halveti Al Wakf al Islami Fraternity. "It is our collective duty, as fathers and mothers, as believers and lay, as men and women of good will to fight strongly for the freedom of peoples and individuals, denying violence any physical, mental, and cultural space, fighting to recover hand in hand the ground lost in these years of threats and repression, of the militarisation of society, of wars on our account and for third parties, of a progressive reduction of rights and civil freedom." The document asks for the withdrawal of Italian soldiers from Iraq and asks for integration to defeat terrorism. It writes about the deaths in Iraq over the last days and talks of ever greater insecurity in minds and hearts. It calls the attackers, "nihilistic demons" and calls all the car bombings blasphemous asking for reflection on the victims of these and of Apache helicopters as well as those of New York, Casablanca, Dar as-Salam, Nairobi, Istanbul". According to Italian Muslims, "the violence against men, women and children on this planet has now reached an intolerable level for any live conscience, fed by a military industrial complex that feeds obscenely on the blood that it sheds."(AGI) . Aren’t they impartial. They make a good case for keeping Muslims out of the Free World. |
| Posted by:Man Bites Dog |
| #11 This last line is what did it for me: fed by a military industrial complex that feeds obscenely on the blood that it sheds This is referring to the jihadis, right? /sarcasm |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-04-24 7:14:59 PM |
| #10 The posted text says that this particular group denounce terrorism and advocates integration. If you insist, though, I suppose that they do indeed advocate terrorism and denounce integration. WhatEVER! . |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-04-24 4:11:00 PM |
| #9 B, Read carefully: "Integration to stop terrorism" is included in the same sentence as "withdrawing Italian troops", which is something only the Italian government can do. They're obliquely saying that if the Italians "integrate" into a future Caliphate (something the Italian government can do via a surrender treaty), there won't be terrorist attacks, since the Koran extends protection over good Dhimmini Christian Italians and Jews. Everything else is standard LLL, socialist, anti-globalist boilerplate. |
| Posted by: Ptah 2004-04-24 3:17:16 PM |
| #8 A street protest isn't going to stop the jihad, and these members of the Filth Column are aware of it. Have we tried the stilts? Have we tried the Jesterman? Have we tried 11 chants in the noon day sun? Puppets? See? Give us a chance. |
| Posted by: AntiPasto 2004-04-24 12:42:38 PM |
| #7 The document asks for the withdrawal of Italian soldiers from Iraq and asks for integration to defeat terrorism. Mike, I'd agree with you if you could convince me that the majority of moderate Muslims intend to integrate, rather than change us from within. Sorry, I'm not really up listening to the call for prayers on the local loudspeaker when I wake up in the morning. I'm open to be convinced - it's just that I'd prefer that the Muslim's tell me themselves that this is what they want - instead of others speaking for them. |
| Posted by: B 2004-04-24 12:17:56 PM |
| #6 We're getting to the point where massive forcible deportation is going to be unavoidable. It really is going to be "them or us." |
| Posted by: mac 2004-04-24 11:58:28 AM |
| #5 Judging from this article, this group denounces terrorism and advocates integration. There's nothing here about "letting terrorists win" or about "bringing us a Caliphate." Don't get me wrong. I dont' subscribe to the criticism of our war in Iraq, which I myself consider to be part of our just war on terrorism. I do grant, though, that there are respectable positions of denouncing both terrorism and that war. . |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-04-24 11:49:56 AM |
| #4 I think it's a bit of stretch to view this as endorsement of reestablishing the Caliphate. Not at all. The "against terrorism" bit in their signs is window-dressing, or directed at terrorism that kills Arabs. They hardly mean the type that kills infidels. And I have no doubt they're getting support from the local communists; the left has once more found a group of third-world thugs to get all warm and fuzzy about. Mike: Calling for us to stop fighting terrorism is equal to calling for the victory of terrorists. A street protest isn't going to stop the jihad, and these members of the Filth Column are aware of it. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-04-24 11:28:10 AM |
| #3 The article implies that Italian muslims believe there is a moral equivalence between terrorists and the military forces seeking to suppress them. I think it's a bit of stretch to view this as endorsement of reestablishing the Caliphate. Living in Italy has had an effect on these folks. They sound more like garden variety Italian communists than jihadis. |
| Posted by: RWV 2004-04-24 11:23:23 AM |
| #2 What do the title and the first comment have to do with the posted text? |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-04-24 10:37:07 AM |
| #1 I'm really happy to see this kind of stuff making the print. The majority of EU and American citizens don't seem to grasp that the Islamic world is united in its goal to bring us a Caliphate. It took me awhile to believe that a good percentage of the "moderate" Muslims share in this ideal. The bottom line is that their religion (where it's ok to break all laws, agreements and even murder - as long as you are "promoting the spread of Islam") is simply not compatible with a civilized democracy that is based on the freedoms that we hold dear. The sooner as we address that as the primary problem, the better off we will be. Articles like these help that reality to sink in. |
| Posted by: B 2004-04-24 8:55:14 AM |