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Vatican says no to churches used as mosques
2004-04-30
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Can a Christian church be used as a mosque by Muslims? This seems “problematic” to the Vatican. The polemic of using Cordoba’s cathedral as a mosque has gathered the attention of top officials within the Roman curia. Yet unlike what was stated by Islamic representatives, no such formal request has been advanced to the Roman Catholic Church.
Islamic representatives lied, people...
AsiaNews, which follows the developments of Islam across the globe, interviewed Archbishop. Michael Fitzgerald, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialog. Archbishop Fitzgerald advises Cordoba’s Muslim population to “accept history” without wanting to get back or “take revenge” on the Church, in the same way that Catholics do not try and reclaim buildings that have passed under Islamic rule and jurisdiction.
Accept history!? Bwawawawa...
Posted by:Dragon Fly

#16  MW, true. I was raised in the Orthodox church & had a chance to see the mosaics that are left.

Of course, the huge Islamic slogans hung about the sanctuary did sort of change the tenor of the place from the old days ...

OS, your comment reminded me of a favorite song of mine penned from the son of Irish immigrants to the south side of Chicago:

If the day ever comes when I should have to shoot a gun
Well, it won't be done for money and it won't be done for fun.
Though I pray each day that such a thing should never come to pass
If you tamper with me liberties, then buddy that's your ass.
For a gun is just an instrument like any other tool
And to be afraid to use it was to be a bloody fool.
So before you come to visit me, remember where I'm from
For I'll help you get to heaven if that day should come.
Posted by: rkb   2004-04-30 6:04:49 PM  

#15  in interes of peace ima know of several pine tree can be used for minets in tide swamp excepting in holy months of november-january
Posted by: HalfEmpty   2004-04-30 5:02:02 PM  

#14  RMcLeod - As a non-Catholic Christian, I am with you. These terds are putting up a straw man to try to inflaim the so-called Arab street. . .
Posted by: BigEd   2004-04-30 3:22:27 PM  

#13  The unbelievable gall of these asswipes wanting to use MY church. F you.

Touch the Vatican and you ALL die.
Posted by: RMcLeod   2004-04-30 3:13:51 PM  

#12  #6 Maybe we can reclaim the great mosque in Istanbul from its days as a Basilica and Cathedral back when it was COnstantinople and the center of the eastern Roman Church.

(they'd be apoplectic if we brought Eastern Orthodox Iconography in and started chanting the Rosary and Our Father, etc).


Actually Hagia Sophia, the basilica you are talking about, is now a museum, not a mosque. And the Turkish archeological service has begun uncovering the wonderful mosaics that were whitewashed when they turned the place into a mosque. If you are ever in the part of the world, Hagia Sophia (the Church of Holy Wisdom) is certainly worth a visit.
Posted by: MW   2004-04-30 2:50:19 PM  

#11  just like to see a christian go to a mosque in mecca or any muslim city and want to worship.....that would go over real well with the religion of peace and tolerance
Posted by: Dan   2004-04-30 2:41:40 PM  

#10  I think the Vatican got a look at those short-term "apartments" used during the hajj and saw the quantity of goat blood dripping from the balconies.
Posted by: .com   2004-04-30 1:18:00 PM  

#9  Old Spook : I am a Protestant married to an Orthodox Christian, and I have some Scottish and Irish ancestry. I know about Saints Patrick and Columba, but your words are non-sequitor to a Jihadi.
Posted by: BigEd   2004-04-30 1:10:30 PM  

#8  Of course if they blew up the Vatican there are some people in Northern Ireland that would probably jump for joy. If they were to hit a major religous site of Christianity I personally would expcet it to be in Israel. That way the Jooos would get blamed for not ensuring the sirtes security
Posted by: cheaderhead   2004-04-30 1:00:59 PM  

#7  One thing to warn the Islamac Mullah's who promote all this Moslem anti-Christian violence about: Don't piss off the Catholics - especially if you hit the Vatican. You'd never know what hit you. And we'd not stop.

Especially those of us of Irish and Scottish descent. (c.f. the history of Ireland and history of Scotland). We pretty much invented fanatacism. Check the history books as far back as the Romans.

We don't seethe. We gear up and kill people until the enemy is either all dead, or rolls over and gives in. Even if it takes decades. Your worst nightmare is a cold-eyed Irishman who has come to slit your throat in the night. He'll do it without pity and continue with a smile.

And thats not counting the boil-over you'd have from S. America.

In the end, we'd rebuild the Vatican quickly, and your ancestors would be left for centuries talking about the wasteland where Mecca used to be, and how Islam passed like Paganism, into obscurity and meaninglessness
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-04-30 12:58:05 PM  

#6  Maybe we can reclaim the great mosque in Istanbul from its days as a Basilica and Cathedral back when it was COnstantinople and the center of the eastern Roman Church.

Fair is fair...

(they'd be apoplectic if we brought Eastern Orthodox Iconography in and started chanting the Rosary and Our Father, etc).
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-04-30 12:42:27 PM  

#5  Sam - We may indeed need a "pool" as you suggest.

But doesn't this beg the question about who is on the "Crusade" if they are demanding a small corner of the room to spread a rug.

Of course if they blow up the Vatican all defication will hit the motorized rotary blade device, because, people will start talking about nuking Mecca. We don't want to open that pandora's box!
Posted by: BigEd   2004-04-30 12:26:49 PM  

#4  Hey, maybe we can get the use of the hall for Black Mass on Thursdays, huh?

Ummm, sorry, the Aztec's have it booked for Thurday. It'll take a while to clean up after them, can I pencil you in for Tuesday?
Posted by: Steve   2004-04-30 11:43:05 AM  

#3  Hey, maybe we can get the use of the hall for Black Mass on Thursdays, huh?
Posted by: mojo   2004-04-30 11:11:20 AM  

#2  I still think we need an office pool of when we think the fundies will hit the Vatican. Thats the motherload of all targets. I just hope the Vatican and Italy have thought of that.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2004-04-30 10:55:31 AM  

#1  Damn! You mean someone in the Catholic Church is wising up? And speaking straight instead of weasling?

About time.

Broadcast this throughout the Moslem world. Seething in 5, 4, 3....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-04-30 10:50:08 AM  

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