Izhar Ul-Haque ?
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| Med Student Says Patients Considered Him a Frog, So He Became a Terrorist | |
| 2004-04-30 | |
| When Izhar Ul-Haque enrolled in a terrorist training camp in Pakistan last year, he was fed up with Westerners and their "animal type of lifestyle", a court heard yesterday. In a letter to his parents, Mr Ul-Haque says he wanted to undergo weapons and combat training and eventually expected to die a martyr for a Pakistani terrorist group. When he returned to Sydney after the camp, Customs officials found 30 books in his luggage including handwritten notes about rocket launchers, landmines, tanks and multi-purpose machineguns. Mr Ul-Haque, 21, was charged earlier this month by the Federal-NSW Police Joint Counter-Terrorism Task Force with training with the group Lashkar-e-Taiba. The taskforce is investigating French terror suspect Willie Brigitte, who also attended LET training camps before his six-month stay in Sydney. Police have not alleged Mr Ul-Haque knew Brigitte. Mr Ul-Haque told investigators before his arrest that the three-week camp was "the first step in the ladder" and simply gave members of the Pakistani community a taste of jihad as part of their religion. "It’s like kindergarten," Mr Ul-Haque allegedly told investigators, the court heard. .... The court heard Mr Ul-Haque had been frustrated at failing his second year of medicine at the University of NSW, as well as unhappy experiences with patients during his training in Sydney hospitals. "The Western patients in hospitals look at me as though I’m a
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| Posted by:Mike Sylwester |
| #28 I've seen him die many times but never slay us. |
| Posted by: Waldorf & Astoria 2004-04-30 4:56:51 PM |
| #27 (kermit-dee-frog voice) "it's not easy being green..." (/kermit-dee-frog voice) |
| Posted by: Querent 2004-04-30 12:20:05 PM |
| #26 Izhar Ul-Haque ? |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-04-30 10:57:28 AM |
| #25 --A white person in a white-dominated and white-centric society is not in a position to feel the pain of a young muslim student. Being non-white, non-favoured race, non-favoured culture and anti-muslim world environment can make a person do drastic things.-- So, he could have moved to where he was comfortable, didn't have to train to kill us. |
| Posted by: Anonymous2U 2004-04-30 10:34:23 AM |
| #24 no picture? maybe he really looks like a frog? I know of a guy in Ramallah, place called the Muqata, who apparently looks just like a fish with a dish towel and fan belt on his head |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-04-30 10:17:21 AM |
| #23 The Western patients in hospitals look at me as though I’m a frog. I can sympathize. Somebody mistakes me for a Frenchman, and it's go time. |
| Posted by: Cthulhu Akbar 2004-04-30 10:09:34 AM |
| #22 If life was so bad in Australia he could easily have gone somewhere else without fighting Jihad. He could have stayed in Pakistan where they probably need doctors. This guy is an idiot and folks like Anonymous4681 are his enablers. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2004-04-30 10:08:18 AM |
| #21 dear anon 4681 while at some level i am sympathetic to your concerns, i would like to point out that we have not seen a terrorist movement emerge among blacks and hispanics in the US, among non-muslim african immigrants in Europe, among West Indians in the UK, etc, despite all of them suffering similar, if not worse, discrimination. Clearly there are other basic problems in the muslim world that drive the choice to become a terrorist rather than, say, a political activist. I would note in passing that one of the side benefits of the events in the last few years has been that many Americans have come to a new appreciation of the patriotism and courage of the hispanic and african american communities. ISTM that the WOT is, in many ways, for those communities what World War 2 was for the southern and eastern european immigrant communities. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-04-30 10:00:35 AM |
| #20 he was fed up with Westerners and their "animal type of lifestyle" Looks like he consideres us animals, too. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-04-30 9:50:06 AM |
| #19 raptor - that's why he / she posted anonymously. Prolly Anti-War or other similar "deeply sensitive" person. As someone who has lived most of the last decade as a stranger in a strange land I could say something similar to this, but then I try to keep my asshat quotient down. Just for practice, you understand. Of course, lol, had I been 30 yrs younger, my experiences in IzzoidLand might have prompted me to join up with Jarhead, heh. ;-> |
| Posted by: .com 2004-04-30 9:19:16 AM |
| #18 They looked at him as if he were a frog? Why, did he have a French accent? |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2004-04-30 9:08:16 AM |
| #17 #3,Yeap.And the Menendez boys,Clebolt&Harris,ands Jeffery Dalmer were just poor, mistreated,and misunderstood.It is not thier fault they slaughtered those people.No,no,of course not it was White dominated society. Oh and lets not forget,those poor boys,the D.C. Snipers. What an ass you are,Anonymous4681. |
| Posted by: raptor 2004-04-30 8:08:57 AM |
| #16 THEY come to OUR lands, look for excuses to hate us, then try to kill us? WTF? Long live the Reconquista! |
| Posted by: Hammer of the Moors 2004-04-30 7:04:25 AM |
| #15 I'm in China, and every time I go outside the house, people stare at me like I'm some kind of carnival freak show. The rude ones crack jokes about my hairy arms and chest. Right in front of me. Somehow, I don't feel the need to pick up a rifle and start killing them. Go figure. I guess my mama raised me wrong. |
| Posted by: gromky 2004-04-30 5:46:36 AM |
| #14 you have my deepest apologies. |
| Posted by: B 2004-04-30 3:57:17 AM |
| #13 B, please do not associate the real Kermit with this moron. I have alot of respect for the little green guy and I find any association offensive. |
| Posted by: Igs 2004-04-30 3:51:04 AM |
| #12 looks like our friend, Kermit, took that song to heart. |
| Posted by: B 2004-04-30 3:26:42 AM |
| #11 Anonymous4681...especially when you hail from the religion of I hope you can learn to get over it. When I was growing up, we had a little song for self pitying saps, it goes like this: nobody likes me everybody hates me I think I'll go and eat dirt. |
| Posted by: B 2004-04-30 3:25:07 AM |
| #10 Steve White, a little fishing is a good thing. Put down the gun and back slowly away. Pick up the rod and slowly breath, yes breath. Now doesnt that feel better? |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-04-30 1:28:28 AM |
| #9 Steve : put down my stethoscope and picked up a rifle. Oddly enough, my Doctor is a Harley ridin' Vietnam Vet who started his medical career as an Army medic. You don't know how close you are. . . . |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-04-30 1:21:28 AM |
| #8 Good idea, Ed. "white-centric" is hilariously illiterate and pretentious. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-04-30 1:20:18 AM |
| #7 Strange, I was a med student once, long ago, and my patients never made me feel like a |
| Posted by: Steve White 2004-04-30 1:17:13 AM |
| #6 Hey Atomic, lets let A4681 talk to an Aussie who lost friends or family in Bali? |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-04-30 1:11:43 AM |
| #5 As a med student this clown occupied a fairly priveleged in western society. That some minor affronts and his own failure become an excuse for joining a band of savage murderers is indicative not of oppression but of pathological narcissism. Of course, this is a common enough shortcoming, which is perhaps why other authoritarian narcissists and power-seekers have been mobilized into a mass movement hell-bent on showing solidarity with the terrorists. Like attracts like. Go charge some Mumia shirts at the mall, Anonymous, or have a talk with your trust-fund manager, your drivel is laughable here. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-04-30 1:05:12 AM |
| #4 Terrorism and the constant rationalizations and excuses offered by their elitist supporters can make us do drastic things. It's about to get a lot worse. As a terrorist enabler and sympathizer, Anonymous 4681 you are in no position to feel the pain YOU are causing. That will change, though; a lot and very soon. The fifth column is responsible and it must pay. |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-04-30 12:53:54 AM |
| #3 A white person in a white-dominated and white-centric society is not in a position to feel the pain of a young muslim student. Being non-white, non-favoured race, non-favoured culture and anti-muslim world environment can make a person do drastic things. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4681 2004-04-30 12:46:38 AM |
| #2 Yeah, if any of those Aussie guards was friends with/had relaitves who died in Bali, he's gonna wish he was a frog in a bog |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-04-30 12:40:58 AM |
| #1 The mind boggles. You just can't make this stuff up! |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-04-30 12:31:26 AM |