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Armstrong Williams asks DNC- Where is the outrage now?
2004-04-08
Posted by:Super Hose

#18  SH, yes, I did assume that you intended to point out the contrast between the treatments of Byrd and Lott. I myself would have given Lott a pass too, just as I give a pass to Byrd. Lott's apology was good enough for me.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL   2004-04-08 10:18:31 PM  

#17  In 1997 Armstrong was sued by a former male employee who accused him of more than 50 incidents of sexual harassment. In a $200,000 lawsuit, Stephen Gregory alleged that Armstrong kissed him on the mouth, grabbed his buttocks and genitals, and climbed into bed with him on business trips. He also said his former boss had told him that he loved him, but somehow that didn't make him gay. Armstrong supposedly needed affection because he wanted to stay celibate heterosexually until he got married. He said Armstrong docked his pay and fired him after he spurned him.

First hired as his personal trainer, Stephen worked on his talk show and eventually became executive producer. Armstrong failed to get the suit dismissed in 1998. Stephen had an affidavit from a guy who said Armstrong propositioned him in 1996. He also had testimony from an ex-intern who had to brush off his advances on his first day on the job. They settled the case out of court in early 1999 because Stephen had his own show and wanted to get the case behind him.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL   2004-04-08 9:30:17 PM  

#16  
Senator Byrd said a long time ago that his membership in the Ku Klux Klan was wrong. He made a mistake as a young man and then corrected it as well as he could. He has lived an admirable life since then. There's no reason for anybody to be outraged about this.

As I recall, Armstrong Williams himself was involved in a nasty scandal several years ago. Does he want someone to incite public outrage about that, forty years from now?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL   2004-04-08 8:31:13 AM  

#15  In 1997 Armstrong was sued by a former male employee who accused him of more than 50 incidents of sexual harassment. In a $200,000 lawsuit, Stephen Gregory alleged that Armstrong kissed him on the mouth, grabbed his buttocks and genitals, and climbed into bed with him on business trips. He also said his former boss had told him that he loved him, but somehow that didn't make him gay. Armstrong supposedly needed affection because he wanted to stay celibate heterosexually until he got married. He said Armstrong docked his pay and fired him after he spurned him.

First hired as his personal trainer, Stephen worked on his talk show and eventually became executive producer. Armstrong failed to get the suit dismissed in 1998. Stephen had an affidavit from a guy who said Armstrong propositioned him in 1996. He also had testimony from an ex-intern who had to brush off his advances on his first day on the job. They settled the case out of court in early 1999 because Stephen had his own show and wanted to get the case behind him.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester TROLL   2004-04-08 9:30:17 PM  

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL   2004-04-08 10:18:31 PM  

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL   2004-04-08 9:30:17 PM  

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL   2004-04-08 8:31:13 AM  

#11  Mike, both what Lott said about the old geezer and what Dodd said about Byrd were pretty silly statements, though. Pretty smarmy stuff without even a touch of moderation or reality.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-04-08 11:55:24 PM  

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL   2004-04-08 10:18:31 PM  

#9  Thank you Mike. I had wondered why Williams came out as a spokesperson for Michael Jackson. I wonder no more.

Did the other link back to the Trent Lott story make my purpose in posting this more clear? On my readthru of Armstrong, I missed the fact that he didn't touch on the old statements. My bad.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-04-08 9:57:43 PM  

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL   2004-04-08 9:30:17 PM  

#7  
But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the Democrats to end their double standard on race.
The man gets it.

Wonder if it will affect his vote?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-04-08 8:15:42 PM  

#6  This sH*thead Byrd is giving us all a bad name.
Posted by: Gov Bilbo   2004-04-08 3:39:41 PM  

#5  Mike, I'm always up for a scandal if you have details.

The article I linked missed the essence of what is wrong with Dodd's words about Byrd. Here is a exerpt from a CNN article from several years ago that includes a more telling statement by Dodd:

Democratic officials have been much quicker to criticize Lott, although to date only Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts -- who is considering a run for the Democratic nomination for president in 2004 -- and Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin have called for Lott's resignation as majority leader.

Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Connecticut, came close Sunday on "Late Edition."

"If Tom Daschle or another Democratic leader were to have made similar statements, the reaction would have been very swift," Dodd said. "I don't think several hours would have gone by without there being an almost unanimous call for the leader to step aside."

Dodd said the problem lies with the Republican Party.

"Mainstream Republican thinking over the last 40 years has been opposed to an awful lot of the civil rights legislation," he said. "So this isn't just about Trent Lott, it's about a party that needs to come to terms with this view here -- that you go to the South, you say one thing to one group of people and another thing nationally."

Dodd said that unless the Republicans address the issue of race relations head on, "they're going to pay an awful price politically and it hurts the country terribly in my view."

Dodd agreed that the Republicans should make the decision about Lott but added that if the senator were to stay, a move to censure him "takes on more of a reality."

"But it ought to be bipartisan," he said. "It ought not to be Democrats versus Republicans."


This Byrd thing probably won't ignite a firestorm, but the new scandal does shred his characterization of the GOP from Dodd's older rhetoric.

Other than the hypocracy of his older statement I have no real interest in yea olde Kleagle - wasn't Kleagle the ringleader of the Banana Splits?
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-04-08 1:19:30 PM  

#4  He has lived an admirable life since then.

If 'admirable' includes naming half the buildings, parks & highways in West Virginia after yourself, courtesy of pork-barrel politics at its worst the American taxpayer...
Posted by: Raj   2004-04-08 12:29:22 PM  

#3  membership? He was a Kleagle! Hypocrisy ain't pretty, is it?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-04-08 10:03:27 AM  

#2  He has lived an admirable life since then.

Well, excepting that line about n*ggers he said on TV a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-08 8:36:22 AM  

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Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL   2004-04-08 8:31:13 AM  

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