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Iraq-Jordan
One Muslim tells it like it is
2004-05-18
From Healing Iraq:
Strange coincidence that the Nick Berg video was released almost simultaneously with the video of Palestinian ‘freedom fighters’ displaying the severed head of an Israeli soldier on a table. Al-Jazeera had the head blurred out, and the Nick Berg video was casually mentioned near the end of their news bulletin, and that was that. No extensive discussions with Arab ‘intelligentsia’ followed, no replaying of the video over and over again for days (as the Abu Ghraib images), no talk shows with enraged, fist shaking, name-calling Arab figures discussing the effect of these videos on the ‘image’ of the Islamic or Arab world. Just shame and guilty silence. Apparently, pictures of an American female soldier taunting a naked man with underwear on his head is much much more gruesome to Arabs. I guess not everyone is perfect.

So, to distance myself from the shameful hypocritical Arab and Muslim masses. I wish to denounce this barbaric act and the pathetic ideology that fueled it, to disown any person from my part of the world who would justify it, and to offer my sincere condolences and sympathy to the family and countrymen of Nicholas Berg. And for Muslims, who are definitely going to say ‘this isn’t the real Islam’:
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”
Surat Mohammed:4
Grow up, and leave the 7th century.

Update:
Some angry readers have interpreted the above last statement as an attack against fellow Muslims. That was not what I had intended. I usually do my best to avoid theological debates on Islam for safety considerations but I’ll indulge them just this once. My purpose was to point out that Islam indeed excuses such barbaric acts. This is not the same as saying that all Muslims believe in such acts or commit them, moderate Muslims exist, but Islam is not moderate. Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists have not deviated from Islam, in fact all their practices are derived from the Quran and Hadith. So yes, Islam is the problem here. Poverty, economic conditions, abuse by so called colonialism, and political frustration are not. Similar conditions elsewhere in the world have not prompted non-Muslims to commit suicide bombings or fly planes into towers. Islam, along with favourable cultural, tribal, and social values existing in the Arab world has prompted that drive. Islam and the Quran alone are the root cause.

The solution is not however to alienate all Muslims, or to expel them, or annihilate them. It is up to ‘moderate’ Muslims and their clerics to carefully examine their scriptures and to reform, the same way Jews and Christians did. The Quran is a book, and its tenets were appropriate for a certain era in history. Most of it does not apply today, so it is not ‘untouchable’. You either believe in the whole book, together with its violent verses, or you should stop claiming to be a consistent believer. You cannot select verses which appeal to your argument and ignore the rest.

How would you explain these, for instance:
“The just retribution for those who fight Allah and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the hereafter.” Surat Al-Ma’ida:33

“O believers, do not take Jews and Christians as allies, they are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them.” Surat Al-Ma’ida:51
I can go on and on, but I would rather not. I have intensively examined the Quran and Sunna, and I might have a few things that would scare some pious believers. Maybe, some other time, when I’m in a safer environment, I would devote a website or a book to the subject.
Posted by:Mercutio

#7  Islam cannot reform. The so-called "liberal" periods of Islam began when Muslim conquerers were in a minority position and had to acquiesce to acceptance of non-Muslim practices. As they approached majority status, fundamentalism arose in every case.

A text-book of Islamofascist revival is: Malaysia. Now that secular ethnic Chinese are in the minority, Malay clerics have now gone so far as to impose Islamic garb requirements on non-Muslims.

The unholy Koran is allowed by the savages to be the "word of Allah" (the Muslim tribal deity), whereas other doctrine, sacred to other faiths, is taken to be the work of scribes. Muslims have to take Mohammed's fabrication literally, and they cannot interpret the Koran as ecclesiastical parable.

Therefore: get these pigs out of my neighborhood; your neighborhood; and Western Civilization in general.

Civilization and Muslims are like oil and water. To hell with these pigs, and their apologists.
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls   2004-05-18 10:27:15 PM  

#6  An interesting and good perspective which I like, but there are two takes on this -- Zeyad's probably the one we've heard of more, but I think he confirmed that he's a atheist and "ethnic Sunni" while Sam Hammorabi is a devout Shi'a and managed both to defend Islam and use it to bash Mr. Berg's murderers ...
Posted by: Edward Yee   2004-05-18 11:12:57 PM  

#5  I appreciate Zeyed's introspection. From the American standpoint I suggest that we randomly think of the first 20 people we talk to each day. From those people I think we should internally tally how many could correctly answer the simple question: Who is most responsible for Nick Berg's death? (Hint: there is really only one correct answer.) I speculate that 10 out of the 20 people I speak to at work would answer that question incorrectly. There is our most immediate problem.
Posted by: Anonymous4828   2004-05-18 10:49:58 PM  

#4  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls TROLL   2004-05-18 10:27:15 PM  

#3  Mike S, let us hope a revolution like you mention comes to fruition. I'd say it will if we stay the course, if we cut and run then bad things are bound to happen.
Posted by: Jarhead   2004-05-18 10:17:50 PM  

#2  
Because of illiteracy, censorship, suppression of dissent, and a lack of information, Moslem clerics have been able to exert decisive influence over social thought in Moslem countries. Now that monopoly is rapidly crumbling. The author of "Healing Iraq" and many other dissidents like him will exert a strong and profound influence on many Moslems. The simple fact that individuals now may openly dissent from the common opinion indicates an incipient revolution that cannot be stopped.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-05-18 10:15:13 PM  

#1  Hot damn! Someone's got a clue!

Problem is, anyone who realizes this is instantly denounced as a heretic and an apostate, and becomes targeted for death. This is the problem with Islam: it does not tolerate criticism. Christianity went through a similar period ("NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!"), and it is indeed regrettable. Difference was, our holy books don't say that those who speak ill of us should be condemned to death. Until the mullahs and imams and other assorted idiots who make up the Islamic "leadership" start allowing criticism and debate, it's not going to change, and it's not going to leave the seventh century. I applaud this man for his realization, and I wish him the best. May others come to the same conclusion and reform what they can before it's too late.
Posted by: The Doctor   2004-05-18 9:50:19 PM  

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