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| ’Those Guys In That Prison Weren’t Boy Scouts’ |
| 2004-05-21 |
| I wonder knowing what we know now of Mohamed Atta whether we would have minded seeing him stripped in a prison or forced to wear a hood or humiliated in any other way? I wonder if we secretly would have found ourselves hoping for far worse treatment. I wonder if anyone would blame us. And not just Atta. What if we saw any of the other 18 Sept. 11 hijackers similarly treated? Knowing what we do now, would we care now? Probably not. We’ll never know. But this much I do know. I know what Atta and his gang did. I know they slit the throats of pilots and stewardesses and rammed planes into buildings — sounds a hell of a lot worse than putting women’s clothing onto someone’s head. I know they didn’t care much about our rights or how we looked or how we fared. They didn’t give a second thought to any of those killed getting a second chance. Oh, if only we could have nabbed these guys earlier. If we could have rounded them all up Sept. 10. How different would things be today? You know, those guys in that prison weren’t boy scouts. They were there for a reason. Who knew how many Mohamed Attas were there or are there? I’m just glad they are there. And I’m grateful for calamities we will never know because they are there. And not, and I must stress, not here. |
| Posted by:Mark Espinola |
| #7 Yeah, Mark, the only reason is that the media wants to harm Bush -- plus these other reasons: * on-going Congressional hearings,--Why have these when you have the 2 below, i.e. investigations under way in the Pentagon (and Army underneath it) with the resulting courts-martial in progress? * on-going courts-martial, --See Above * on-going investigations within the Army and Pentagon,--See above. * on-going releases of prisoners who report their personal stories, --I've only seen one release of about 300 prisoners and as for their personal stories, these people will work HRW and Amnesty International for everything they're worth, even if they're making it up. We've been through this with the Gitmo detainees for 2 years. * on-going complaints that the entire legal culpability is being pinned on only seven "bad apple" enlisted military policemen,--Who's complaining except their superior officiers who are also having to take responsibility? * on-going mass demonstrations about the issue,--Where? I have heard of none, here or in Iraq. * President Bush's recent unprecedented public statement to Arabs,--He's made several since 9/11. To which one do you refer? Why is it so unprecedented? Because he keeps assuring them that democracy in their part of the world is going to happen or what? * the the recent beheading of Nick Berg as retaliation for the abuse,--President Bush mentioned this in his speech and said that there was "no justification whatsoever." * the US public's great interest in the issue.--Maybe you Bush-bashing Democrats are interested but I am not and neither are a lot of Americans. We feel strongly that the problem is and was being handled through channels, as is right and proper. |
| Posted by: Jen 2004-05-27 12:55:12 AM |
| #6 Not exactly Boy Scouts? Then how come we let half of them out a few days after the depravity of our torture became known? Do I have it right - did we turn loose 1600 or so murderers all at once, out of stupidity? Or did we have them imprisoned by mistake, and now we've turned them loose. |
| Posted by: Tex 2004-05-26 11:51:55 PM |
| #5 Re #4. I was referring to the posting, not to Lucky's comment, whatever it means. Re #2. The only real reason this Iraqi prison story drags on & on & on is because those in the liberal media demand it hoping it will harm Bush, Yeah, Mark, the only reason is that the media wants to harm Bush -- plus these other reasons: * on-going Congressional hearings, * on-going courts-martial, * on-going investigations within the Army and Pentagon, * on-going releases of prisoners who report their personal stories, * on-going complaints that the entire legal culpability is being pinned on only seven "bad apple" enlisted military policemen, * on-going mass demonstrations about the issue, * President Bush's recent unprecedented public statement to Arabs, * the the recent beheading of Nick Berg as retaliation for the abuse, * the US public's great interest in the issue. |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-05-22 9:17:45 AM |
| #4 What a stupid argument. |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-05-22 8:38:06 AM |
| #3 What did Bush know and when did he know it? Stop the war, retreat, ask what if. Stop the draft, war is bad for flowers and other living things, it was only two towers, don't look up, remember it's the same god, Jesus was a prophet, kill dragons, kiss the ring, smile, know your place. "I've still got the jive to survive among the heros and villians." Dum do de doo. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-05-22 1:27:32 AM |
| #2 The only real reason this Iraqi prison story drags on & on & on is because those in the liberal media demand it hoping it will harm Bush, while not caring about the real issue, Terrorist Inc's goal of forcing Islam on the entire world, one way or the other. |
| Posted by: Mark Espinola 2004-05-22 1:06:46 AM |
| #1 It would be interesting after the smoke clears to know who was abused, how they were abused and what they were actually arrested for. I'm still hazy on all the specifics unless any of you all know for sure. |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2004-05-22 12:14:49 AM |