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| Reports: Chalabi Told Iran U.S. Broke Its Codes | ||
| 2004-06-02 | ||
WASHINGTON — Ahmad Chalabi, the former Iraqi exile once regarded as a friend of the Bush administration, revealed to Iran that the United States had broken the code of its intelligence service, according to broadcast and published reports. CBS News reported Tuesday that Chalabi had told an Iranian intelligence official that the United States had cracked its codes, allowing U.S. agents to read Iran's secret communications. By revealing such information, Chalabi would have exposed one of the United States' most important sources of information about Iran.
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| Posted by:Steve White |
| #31 By the way, OldSpook, this is OT, (on Freep it'd be called Catholic ping), but the new King Arthur movie has him as a Christian (and Catholic, since it's right around the time of the Nicene Creed) and in the trailer he specifically prays to God to "guide [his] hand and Excalibur" ... |
| Posted by: Edward Yee 2004-06-02 10:44:52 PM |
| #30 OldSpook, thank you for your family's services to our country, and for your own. Don't mind I quote you here? Liberalhawk, that's some hard thinking you've been doing! I never would have thought of all those possibilities *blushes* *just rolls eyes at Heinz Kerry* |
| Posted by: Edward Yee 2004-06-02 10:35:42 PM |
| #29 We need an executive branch pogrom! I will clean out the neo cons and make them wish they'd never seen the inside of a dossier! I will tatto their asses, wrap them in bacon and send them back to the nether regions of the think tanks. |
| Posted by: Heinz Kerry 2004-06-02 2:55:18 PM |
| #28 I note that Patrick Belton of Oxblog has just posted virtually the same things I did in #22. Does he read Rantburg (then he should have given credit here - i myself admit to being inspired by Dot Com) or is it simply that great minds think alike? |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-02 2:10:19 PM |
| #27 Xbalanke: Devious thought there. I like it. |
| Posted by: Mike 2004-06-02 11:30:50 AM |
| #26 Drunk you say.... hmmmm. Now, who do we know in the Seante who drinks alot and can't shut the F%$k up.... Someone who sounds like "Mayor quimby" from the simpsons....looks like a barrage balloon in a bill blass suit.. whats his name...... |
| Posted by: Frank Martin 2004-06-02 10:57:17 AM |
| #25 Dang it - I didn't realize I was listed as Anonymous5095 (cleaned off my box so I guess I lost my settings) I wanted to get my handle on my post. Anonymous5095 on #20 = Yosemite Sam |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2004-06-02 10:43:12 AM |
| #24 The New York Times, quoting anonymous U.S. intelligence officials I can see two reasons to not believe this story right there: NYT and anonymous sources. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-06-02 10:31:28 AM |
| #23 anon 5095 - we can LISTEN to any nations comms, and i assume easily defeat the common encryptions used commercially. I would think that breaking the more complex encryption used by intell services would be a non-trivial task to the say the least, though we do have the worlds best pros at that game down at the "puzzle palace" |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-02 10:26:49 AM |
| #22 3 and 4 make good points. Your the Iranian intell station chief in Baghdad. Your pal Chalabi tells you that the Americans have broken the Iranian intell code. Now for Iran to know, this, and the US to NOT now that Iran knows, is valuable to Iran. You can give out disinfo, before you switch codes on em. Maybe you can use other means of communication for awhile. So what does our Baghdad Iranian station chief due - he immediately sends a message back to Teheran Center, in the broken code, telling them that the code is broke AND that Chalabi was the source Hmmm? Possibilities 1. The Iranian Station Chief in Baghdad is simply not the sharpest tool in the shed. Youd think this would be THE priority assignment for Iranian intell, but maybe thats just me 1A. The Baghdad station chief paniced, and didnt now how else to get through to Teheran Central. 2. The whole Chalabi is an Iranian mole thing is itself a story planted by Iranian intell, to discredit Chalabi 2A. Chalabi was an Iranian mole, but the Iranians are dumping him now that his usefulness is exhausted 2Ai - theyre dumping him because they think he was about to turn back to the Americans, and thus its particularly essential to discredit him now. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-06-02 10:24:48 AM |
| #21 The timing of his arrest -- just before turning over Iraq -- makes me wonder if we had been 'running' Chalabi to feed Iran false information for some time and, with the turnover near at hand, need to remove him before he can do some real harm.... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-06-02 10:18:16 AM |
| #20 I'm sort of surprised at everyones reaction to the news that we can decode Iranian msgs. I always thought it was common knowledge that we can do that with pretty much any nations coms. I'd be this upset knowing that we couldn't. |
| Posted by: Anonymous5095 2004-06-02 10:14:49 AM |
| #19 NMM's mommy apparently left the computer on and the password disabled. Piece of Shit |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-06-02 10:13:19 AM |
| #18 I'm nowhere near an expert in covert intel stuff, but to me - if the fundamentals of the story are true - it almost smells like disinformation fed to Chalabi to confirm a leak (like "markers" used in various medical imaging tests). It would have the positive side-effect of making ALL the ME intel groups wonder about their codes. Or am I just being paranoid? |
| Posted by: Xbalanke 2004-06-02 9:58:59 AM |
| #17 Spook: Pass this along to your son: Good luck, good hunting, and get home safe. |
| Posted by: Mike 2004-06-02 8:19:07 AM |
| #16 NMM is playing nice, hold back the dogs a little eh ? no need to make things icky folks |
| Posted by: dcreeper 2004-06-02 7:57:04 AM |
| #15 Old Spook, bless your heart. And thanks for the service to the nation and to liberty your family provided. The revelation of Chalabi telling the Iranians their codes had been broken dovetails well with this Abu Ghraib incident. I am talking about many of the photos we know to be faked. Seems much more likely now they were planted. We may well still have a rat in the house, though. I hope not. |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-06-02 7:01:51 AM |
| #14 Hey NMM, since when did John F Kennedy's political points of foreign policy become "neocon"? "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. " "In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility—I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it—and the glow from that fire can truly light the world. And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man. Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own. " For a Democrat, he talks awfully tough and uncompromising when it comes to liberty and the duty we have to bear the burdens it brings... And there are those pesky references to God. (Well, pesky to you liberals anyways) Kennedy would have a hard time talking that talk in the Demo party today - he'd be running as a Republican, given his strong defense, and his across the board tax cut policies. note: And FYI for the liberal types: ANY FOE (of Liberty) includes Saddam, his baathists, the Iranians, Bin Laden, the Taliban and those other bastards we are fighting now. And ANY BURDEN means giving up social programs to pay for the war until its done. As for paying ANY PRICE - I gave up years of my life carrying a rifle, and was prepared to pay the ultimate price. Providence kept me here to father my son, who will be joining the long line of our family in service to our nation. And we are not unique, just fortunate: there are monuments with the names of those who were not as fortunate as I - from me in Grenada and Desert Storm (missed Panama), going back to WW2 fought in the recent past by my father, my older brothers in Vietnam, my Uncles in Korea, and my grandfather in WWI, and his father's father in Cuba, and our ancestors in the Plains and in the Civil War (right after we got off the boat). We who serve KNOW the price because we signed up to pay it. By the way, NMM - what are YOU doing for your country compared to those who serve now and have served in the past and some of us older ones who continue to serve in different roles today? |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-06-02 4:11:38 AM |
| #13 Welly, welly, well...NMM. Since when did American lives ever matter to you. Let me be the first to invite you to piss off. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-06-02 2:42:42 AM |
| #12 PBMcL his drinking buddies? you mean Cheney and the neo con agenda running this war? |
| Posted by: Not Mike Moore 2004-06-02 2:29:42 AM |
| #11 ...and if it is true then both Chalabi and his "drinking buddy" should have a really terrible "accident." Real soon. |
| Posted by: PBMcL 2004-06-02 2:00:24 AM |
| #10 This is either more CIA/State misinfo to discredit Chalabi or the worst intelligence snafu since Ames. |
| Posted by: PBMcL 2004-06-02 1:56:53 AM |
| #9 Rafe - this was back in the late 1990's that the story was leaked. Back when Clintoon and his happy-assed gang of idiots didnt give a squat about leaks unless it was one of Bill's lies or Hillary's girlfriends. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-06-02 1:28:39 AM |
| #8 They published a story that we were intercepting his satellite phone calls. As soon as that hit the press, he abandoned satellite phones from what I heard outside of channels. If OBL was using satellite phones, then he hasn't been paying attention to his Chechen brothers. The Chechen rebels stopped using satellite phones when they started correlating satellite phone usage with bombs being dropped on their heads within 10 minutes of such phone use. Needless to say, there are no satellite phones now being used in Chechnya. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-06-02 1:23:23 AM |
| #7 Oh - and the American who leaked to him? Prison. For Life. Leavenworth. No appeal, no parole. Hard Labor. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-06-02 1:08:02 AM |
| #6 You know why BinLaden is so f**king hard to find? The Boston Globe. They published a story that we were intercepting his satellite phone calls. As soon as that hit the press, he abandoned satellite phones from what I heard outside of channels. All because some idiot wanted to make points with a reporter - and the dumbass reporter wanted a story and didnt even think of the repercussions. And less than 2 years later, 9/11. Along those lines, if Chalabi leaked this, he deserves to be shot. Dead. Now. He just enabled the Iranians to cost us more lives in Iraq by way of securing the comms for infiltrators and we will be unable to counter them in advance. The traitorous ass - he just sold his own people out. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-06-02 1:06:15 AM |
| #5 #2 is dead on; Chalabi shold be 'spanked on the hands' and moved out of theatre. The true Traitor should be shot for his National Security breach! |
| Posted by: smn 2004-06-02 1:02:45 AM |
| #4 I wonder if Iranian intelligence made this story up and sent it in a message with the intention that we intercept and read it. |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-06-02 1:01:19 AM |
| #3 "The Iranian spy described the conversation in a message to Tehran, which was intercepted by U.S. intelligence." Now this is a classic f**kin' duh! moment! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-06-02 12:46:27 AM |
| #2 If gave away that we broke their codes, then shoot him. And shoot anybody foolish enough to tell a non-citizen like him that we had broken the codes. |
| Posted by: Laurence of the Rats 2004-06-02 12:45:30 AM |
| #1 Drunk ya say? I hope that some day I can read the history regarding Chalabi. |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-06-02 12:43:43 AM |