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| Anti-Americans in S. Korea get their wish, soon to learn the hard way |
| 2004-06-07 |
| Attitudes change to US in S Korea by Charles Scanlon, BBC in Seoul LET THIS STAND AS A RECORD SO THAT WHEN THE SOUTH KOREANS ARE SCREAMING FOR HELP FROM THE US, AND WHEN THE IGNORANT LEFT BLAME AMERICA FOR NOT GOING IN ’BECAUSE THERE’S NO OIL IN SOUTH KOREA’ THAT THE US LEFT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT WANTED. Let the ungrateful anti-Americans learn the hard way that really the North Koreans WERE and ARE their greatest threat. Don’t help them this time! But outside the perimeter fence [of the US Army base]in the streets of Seoul, attitudes have changed. The Americans are no longer welcome here, and the US Army has finally agreed to move its headquarters to a new site south of the city. Jeffrey Jones of the American Chamber of Commerce has been in South Korea for 25 years. He said Koreans no longer feel they have to bow down to the United States.like they ever did! no, that is a function of Asian heirarchical honour-culture. You know: the one that gives rise to Asian despots like the Dear Leader to the North? Politics has its roots in culture and populations DO get the leaders they deserve. Don’t help them next time. Toyotas are better than Hyundais any day. Oh yeah, cut off foreign aid, too. Let them work out their own problems, it’s the only way they’ll ever work it out. There are rumours that the number of troops will be reduced newsflash: yep, US is pulling 12,000 troops out: nearly half! "Korea has basically complied with US requests and interests throughout its history since the Korean War and I think really for the first time we’re seeing not only a private assertion of that independence but an open and public assertion of that independence, " he said. whata loada crap. Imperial America exacts tribute? BS! Outside the base’s gate, restaurateurs and shop owners worry about lost business when the move is complete in three years time. I feel sorry for them, and the old generation who know the score. Still, they brought up the brats of today, so don’t help them again! But it is hard to find a passer-by who wants the Americans to stay. Young Koreans in particular are deeply suspicious of the US military presence. they want to learn from the school of hard knocks: so let them! "I know we’ve received a lot of help from the Americans in the past, but we’ve become too dependent on them and we let them do whatever they want," said one man. ingrate. it’s only because of the US that you are not eating bark off trees and worshipping your comrade dictator "I think the United States is the biggest threat to our security. It exaggerates the threat from North Korea and creates unnecessary tension," another said. OK, US pull your troops out now. This is the money quote. Please relocate this base to Darwin, Australia. I personally request it. I would welcome you here as a buffer for Indonesia to our north. We need you in South East Asia. Please, come to Australia. According to the US, this is part of a world-wide redeployment which will not affect its commitment to defend South Korea. why commit yourself to defend people who don’t do diddly for you in return? leave them and shake the dust from your feet as you leave Certainly many Americans were stunned by a wave of anti-US protests after two girls were accidentally crushed by an armoured vehicle 18 months ago. Leave now. No apologies. Just show them the money quote and the anti-US protest shots as explanation. "Certainly I would guess that most Americans felt a sense of betrayal. We have sacrificed, bled and died for this country, how can they betray us by these kinds of demonstrations, anti-US feelings?" said Jeffrey Jones. don’t think too hard, just come to Australia instead. " We still continue to protect this country." cease and desist! they don’t deserve your protection. The two governments insists they are still working well together. But analysts see and underlying tension and lack of trust as coming at a critical moment, as the region confronts the growing nuclear threat from North Korea. |
| Posted by:Anon1 |
| #17 Sgt Mom I think any NK invasion would bog down at the first noodle stall. I also think the SKor gov has watched the German reinification and subsequent malaise and the last thing on this earth they want is their hungry cousins showing up to be fed and outfitted. That will be the end of the SK economic miracle. Forever, given the pace of development in the rest of Asia. |
| Posted by: Grunter 2004-06-07 6:28:18 PM |
| #16 It's as if we are saying, "The Norks are YOUR retarded cousins, YOU deal with them!" I used to part-time as an English-language copy editor at KBS, when they did a simulcast of the 9 PM news in English, and the Korean editors and broadcasters I worked with felt pretty much the same as Don--- that most of the invading Norks would not be able to hold their discipline together opon encountering the first big grocery store or electronics bazaar. |
| Posted by: Sgt. Mom 2004-06-07 5:54:52 PM |
| #15 A real strategy is for the South to abandon its border and let all them Norkies come right on in without a fight - one day in the South will destroy all their concepts of Kimmie's reality. How long are you going to keep them down on the [state] farm after they see Seoul? |
| Posted by: Don 2004-06-07 5:17:18 PM |
| #14 Fact is if North Korea collapsed today South Korea would be in far worse a situation than West Germany was trying to rebuild Eastern Europe. North Korea is a mess. Its in South Koreas best interests to buy off North Korea for awhile, increase trade if possible, do anything that might build up that state befoe Kimmie dies and leaves them holding the bag. |
| Posted by: Yank 2004-06-07 4:19:41 PM |
| #13 It is not just students in Korea that hate the US. It is the President and most of the URI party. It is now the majority of Koreans. I belive that within 10 years there will be Unification under Craay Kimeeeee without a shot being fired. The SKors will negotiate and vote themselves out of existence/ |
| Posted by: Michael 2004-06-07 1:12:26 PM |
| #12 I was going to post this site before, but I couldn't remember which blog it was incestiousamplification has a roundup of Korean headlines from the end of May. 2ID Editorial roundup Hani: Yankee go the fuck home...but not until we tell you to. Donga: Yankee don't destroy our credit rating...and come back soon. Chosun: Damn you Yankee for exposing the incompetent pile of worthless crap we call a government. Korea Times: You mean the Yankee is still pissed about candle-light vigils and foot-dragging on the Iraq troop dispatch? Joongang: Yankee, we truly deserve this...we only ask that you use some lube. Korea Herald: Yes, we realize our blatant double standard, Yankee! When it comes to negotiations over nukes, we'll refer to North Korea as a poor victim just looking for a peaceful solution in order to support our America-bashing agenda...and when it comes to the reality of US troops leaving, we'll refer to North Korean "belligerence" and "nuclear threats" in order to support our America-bashing agenda. Hey, we're Korean. We divide all double standards by two and it all works out. Hani: Damn Fucking Yankee! Didn't you realize we just liked the ring of Yankee Go Home in our victimized ears? We never bothered to consider the consequences of it actually happening. Let's all meet at the room salon to get stinking drunk and molest 15-year olds for some civilized discussion about the future of Korean security issues. Donga: Hey Yankee, what the fuck do we do now? Any suggestions? Yankee? Joongang: "Yankee Go Home" sounded so much better in theory. OhmyCuntHurts: Fellow Koreans, quit worrying about the Yankee. OhmyMath taught me that 37,000 minus 3,600 equals 50,000. |
| Posted by: Anonymous2U 2004-06-07 12:43:19 PM |
| #11 C. S. Lewis spoke of "finding one's heart's desire and finding despair with it." I fear this may become a prime example. |
| Posted by: Korora 2004-06-07 12:07:31 PM |
| #10 US Army : My neighbor's Hyundai steering wheel is cracked. Could you pick up one before you leave for him. I think spare parts will be difficult to get after Napoleon of the East makes his move South. . . |
| Posted by: BigEd 2004-06-07 11:56:36 AM |
| #9 growing up's a bitch and reality sucks. If they want to, let em' learn it the hard way. Either way, they are big enough to leave the nest. |
| Posted by: B 2004-06-07 10:39:03 AM |
| #8 The NKors would try (probably successfully) to blackmail the South the moment the US has left the scene. 'Support us or we'll invade'. The South would pay through the nose to avert war, and in doing so, reinforce and strengthen Kimmie's stranglehold them and increase the likelihood of war. And all because of a perverted sense of pride, an ignorance of history, and a refusal to acknowledge reality. We should make clear that a war of South Korea's own making would not result in a re-run of the first Korean war, and that they would fight and/or die on their own. They should be big enough to do so by now. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-06-07 10:15:25 AM |
| #7 My brother recently returned from SKor. Truth is, they probably could defend themselves from a NKor invasion. Of course, at LEAST 1 to 2 million people in Seoul would die right off the bat. Just depends on your point of view, if that kind of casualties is acceptable to you then, sure, they can stand on their own feet. Problem is this: NKor wouldn't attack while we are there in force - they know they can't beat us. But, NKor may very well attack if we aren't there because they think they can beat the SKor. So the SKor's need to ask themselves, is several million of your people worth saying to the world, 'yes my penis is not so small?' Fuck them. They don't want us there, and frankly our people HATE being there. Bring 'em home. |
| Posted by: AllahHateMe 2004-06-07 10:01:30 AM |
| #6 The NKors have been very successful in playing on the native xenophobia of the South Koreans in their propaganda. (which is understandible, considering their history with China & Japan) |
| Posted by: Ernest Brown 2004-06-07 9:44:28 AM |
| #5 Note that most of these kids are teenagers who may have not served their mandatory military service and are still brainwashed by their leftish teachers/professors. The ones who realize that they do need us as an ally are, perhaps, the silent majority. And note that this is from that font of unbiased journalism... the BBC. But we should pull out most of our troops from S. Korea, not because a few dont want us but because they can stand on their own two feet. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-06-07 9:34:44 AM |
| #4 Actually there is not a lot new in the comments. Korean students have been spouting this sort of stuff for at least 30 years. All things considered (no pun intended), you can hear nonsense like this on most any US campus. The quality of life in SKorea significantly improved over the last 20 years to the point that there is little difference between South Korea and the US for the generation now in school. With no real hardship to concentrate their minds, they are following for the same rhetoric and adopting the same poses as US college students... Nations don't have friends, only interests. Only the Aussies and the South Koreans fought with us in VietNam. South Korea has been a reliable ally since the 50's. For the most part, that happened because it was in Korea's interest to do that. It still is, regardless of what the press would have you and them believe. |
| Posted by: RWV 2004-06-07 9:10:49 AM |
| #3 Pull out of Korea and put the patriot missiles in Japan. I can live without Huyndai, but my wife likes her Honda and my flat tv will come from sony rather than samsung. If korea wants to grow up, let it play , and eventualy take it like a man! |
| Posted by: frenchfregoli 2004-06-07 8:59:11 AM |
| #2 And Darwin, Australia would certainly be an appropriate choice... all things considered. |
| Posted by: B 2004-06-07 8:48:47 AM |
| #1 Comments so true! Bunch of ungrateful teenagers whining about how mean mommie is. Time for them to grow up, pay their own bills and get a clue. Mommie's tired of getting crap for working hard to pay your bills and would rather use her money to buy herself a facial. Sink or swim. Good luck to ya, SK. |
| Posted by: B 2004-06-07 8:44:56 AM |