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A window inside al-Qaeda in Europe
2004-06-15
A suspected mastermind of the Madrid train bombings was planning another terrorist attack, but intelligence and law enforcement officials in Europe say they are still struggling to determine its nature and location. Excerpts of confidential telephone conversations intercepted and analyzed by Italy’s antiterrorism unit suggest that Rabei Osman Sayed Ahmed, the 32-year-old Egyptian arrested outside of Milan on Tuesday, may even have been plotting an attack on the vast Paris Metro system.

But France and Italy denied such claims on Thursday, saying there was no credible evidence to suggest that their territories were the target. "Of course we have analyzed all available information concerning this matter," Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin who is still allegedly a man of France told reporters during a visit to Germany. "I confirm that, in these exchanges, there are no indications about the preparation of possible attacks in Paris, on the Paris Metro or elsewhere."

The excerpts, contained in a 26-page confidential arrest warrant by the Milan prosecutor’s office, offer an unusual window into the possible planning of an attack and the thinking of Rabei. Rabei, also known as "Mohammad the Egyptian," has been identified by the Spanish authorities as the possible mastermind behind the Madrid terror attacks that left 191 people dead. A former Egyptian Army explosives expert, he was well-connected with radical Islamic networks throughout Europe and had spent time in France, they said.

In one conversation on May 26, Rabei boasts to Yahia Payumi, a 21-year-old Egyptian who was arrested with him, that plans are under way for some sort of chemical attack against the United States. Rabei reports "bad news" - that a woman named "Hotaf" has been "discovered," but adds, "There are other women." Among them is "Mouattaf," who has already been "prepared with many medicinal products," he said. "If she tosses a stick she destroys an entire American neighborhood."

The telephone intercepts underscore the difficulties faced by intelligence agencies in trying to monitor and eradicate terrorist cells in Europe. In recent weeks, the United States told a number of European countries that there was credible information of an imminent terrorist attack against a European Union target, perhaps around the time of the elections of European Union countries that began Thursday and will continue through Sunday, a senior European counterterrorist official said Thursday. French, Spanish and Belgian officials said Thursday that the Italian authorities had given them only partial transcripts of the intercepted conversations - part of a warrant for Rabei’s arrest - and that the translations from Arabic into Italian and the Italian analysis might not be accurate.

In addition, the conversations, first reported in Thursday’s editions of Italy’s Corriere della Sera newspaper, are incomplete and appear to be partially in code.
Yep, they aren't completely stupid, are they.
More than once, Rabei warns a man in Belgium identified only as "Mourad" not to discuss certain things on the telephone. In one conversation, on May 29, "Mourad" tells Rabei that he is "ready," that he should be in Paris soon and that "the operation is moving forward." Rabei asks for information "about the city," (which the Italians conclude is Paris) and "about the Metro."
So Rabei doesn't actually say "Paris", but the Italians use their intel and common sense to figure out -- no wonder Dominique is lost.
In another conversation intercepted by the Belgian authorities and summarized in the Italian document, a third man identified as "Mohammed," who is already in Paris, is said to be ready for martyrdom, "that is, for the execution of a suicide operation," the Italian document concluded. On May 24, Rabei tells "Mourad" that the operation began four days ago and that he should be prepared to leave Belgium for an unspecified country.

An Italian official in Milan close to the investigation said that "it was wrong to say that Paris is where the attack was going to be." He added that the Italian authorities believe that Paris may have only been a convenient meeting point for the operatives. The official added, however, that it was "certain" that the cell had been "planning something" inside Iraq. In the past year, intelligence officials have begun to see the recruitment and deployment of guerrilla fighters from Europe to Iraq to fight the American-led occupation there.
Better there than Baltimore.
Rabei was identified by Spanish officials shortly after the Madrid attacks as one of a number of suspects who could have been ultimately responsible for the plot.

In one conversation, Rabei refers to the Madrid bombings as "a project of mine." In another conversation in May, Rabei reportedly boasted that he could change his fingerprints. "I know a way that allows me to continually change my fingerprints," he said in a conversation with Yahia Payumi, who was arrested with him. "They are never the same." He added, "Not even the American intelligence services will find me."
"Hi, Mr. Rabei, my name is Tyrone, and I'm your chief interrogator. Welcome to Gitmo."
Rabei also said in that conversation that he had used different nationalities - Jordanian, Egyptian, Palestinian and Syrian - until his friends in Tangier "told me to stop, because they’ll get you." In his May 24 conversation with "Mourad," Rabei said that he could not travel to Spain because "the entire group" - "our friends" - have "all gone to God."

Rabei and Payumi were arrested in coordination with the arrests of 15 people in Belgium who also were said to be planning an attack.
Posted by:Dan Darling

#14  PlanetDan,
May I suggest one single change in a letter in your comment? From "fukem" to "nukem". Just a helpful hint.
Posted by: Craig   2004-06-15 7:54:55 PM  

#13  it just pisses me off that we have to modify our entire civilized way of life to accomodate these islamic asswipes. We've had to place cops and suveillance everywhere, we have to go through damn near a full body cavity search just to get on a friggin airplane, and what used to be celebrations like the olympics or July 4th become exercises in meticulous security planning. I mean, if these pissants from the ROP would have done SOMETHING --ANYTHING-- valuable over the last 1000 years - in medicine, culture, science, art, et - I would decide to take the good with the bad. BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO GOOD WHATSOEVER!

So I say fukem.

(sorry... it just started especially getting to me today. dunno why)
Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-06-15 3:36:39 PM  

#12  Hmm. It's interesting to note that the subway system in Washington DC is also called the Metro.
Posted by: Jonathan   2004-06-15 2:40:41 PM  

#11  hey nmn - you also a lardass??
Posted by: Dan   2004-06-15 2:10:24 PM  

#10   Can't carry my stash to work anymore!
You're english, you're talking tea, of course, right?... Don't worry, we won't tell anyone.
Posted by: Anonymous5089   2004-06-15 11:34:25 AM  

#9  the carnage and immediate aftermath would be hidden from view

Bulldog - I'm not so sure it would be hidden from view. The rabid British press would find a way to get cameras down there. The Sun and the like to get people pissed off, the BBC to blame Blair and Bush. The pictures would get out, and rather quickly I suspect.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2004-06-15 9:03:12 AM  

#8  The police are putting in more of an appearance in recent times which makes me wonder.. have a look at the workman at King's Cross - I am reliably informed there's always one in a blue boiler suit sat down carefully checking out the booking hall(!) Same at Charing Cross from what I've experienced - stopping and searching, dogs etc.. Can't carry my stash to work anymore!
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-06-15 7:03:14 AM  

#7  They've tried before, and it's not exactly a difficult target to attack. It's prtobably just a matter of time before one cell manages to.

I wonder what effect a large scale terrorist strike would have on London, whether it's on the tube or elsewhere in London or the UK? Would we see much enhanced security down there? The closure of some of the 'redundant' stations, even very busy ones? A change in the layout of station entrances (above ground 'check in' areas)? It's such an easy place to kill a large number of people, and yet so vital to London's functioning, it must be a nightmare to event think about securing. I suppose the only thing in the tube's favour is it's not exactly the best target for an al Qaeda 'spectacular' - the carnage and immediate aftermath would be hidden from view.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-06-15 6:44:29 AM  

#6  How long do you give it until they successfully attack the tube Bulldog?
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-06-15 6:18:25 AM  

#5  Charles - NMM is an idiot. Don't waste your breath.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-06-15 6:12:34 AM  

#4  I don't seem to recall Turkey supporting the Iraq War either, yet they've been bombed several times over the last year. I also don't remember the Iraqi's lining up to get jobs to feed their children helping the Coalition either. Has this stopped them from being targeted and killed though?
Posted by: Charles   2004-06-15 6:05:46 AM  

#3  OK I'll take Italy for 300 dead Alex, since France didn't support this adventure
Posted by: Not Mike Moore   2004-06-15 3:04:03 AM  

#2  a third man identified as "Mohammed," who is already in Paris

Boy howdy, that really narrows down the list of suspects. France's liberal Muslim immigration policies (i.e., Khomeni et al) is really paying off big time.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-06-15 1:55:07 AM  

#1  Murat? Izzat you?...
Posted by: mojo   2004-06-15 12:14:00 AM  

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