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Dar e-Salaam vs dar e-Harb
2004-07-06
It is Islamic ideology that the world is divided into two: The Islamic “Dar e-Salaam” or House of Islam or House of Peace. Opposing this “Dar e-Salaam” is the “Dar e-Harb” or House of War into which all infidels fall. There can be no peace for Islam until the entire “Dar e-Harb” falls to the “Dar e-Salaam”. So this is a fight to the finish. Islam must be victorious or be vanquished. Since Islam’s victory calls on the inevitable destruction of all infidels, Victor Mordecai calls for world mobilization to terminate Islam as a system. Either the world deals with Islam, or Islam will deal with the world. In this sense, there is no difference between Islam, Nazism and Communism as exclusive world domination systems.

There are wars of genocide in which over two million black Christians have been slaughtered in the Sudan. Another six to eight million are slated for destruction. Another example of genocide is in various parts of the Indonesian archipelago in which over 300,000 East Timorese were killed since 1975. Over half a million of ethnically Chinese have been killed in Indonesia since the 1960’s. Yet in response to these genocides, the world remains indifferent and silent. Other wars brewing involve Chinese-Islamic war in East Turkestan commonly known as Sinkiang Province in western China; a festering war in the south Philippines focused on Mindanao and Sulu Islands; a potentially nuclear war between India and Pakistan over Kashmir; Christian-Islamic confrontation in the Balkans, Lebanon, Egypt, Pakistan, Malaysia, Singapore, and throughout Africa. Of course, last but definitely not least is the Judeo-Christian conflict with Islam in the Holy Land.

It is this last conflict which drew Victor Mordecai into the field of battle with Islam. Victor’s wife, an Egyptian born Jew taught him early in their relationship that in Egypt, there were three groups: the Jew or “Yahudi”, the Christians or “Messihi” and finally the Moslems, known as the gentiles, goyim or the pagans. I had hated Christians as a young man calling them the goyim. But my wife made it clear to me that the Christians are not goyim. We Jews and Christians have the same God, the same Bible, and the Messiah is not a Moslem, Buddhist or Hindu but a Jew who speaks Hebrew. The Jews and Christians are known in the Islamic lands as the “People of the Book”, not the peoples of the book.

Our only debate is about the specific status of Jesus of Nazareth.

The Islamic “Hadith” teaches that Jesus returns a second time. But this Jesus is slightly different than the one Christians revere. The Islamic Jesus returns a second time as a Muslim. Yasser Arafat has been quoted as saying, “Jesus was the first Palestinian Moslem revolutionary.” Accordingly, Jesus kills the anti-Christ with a spear in a battle outside of the city of Lod. He proceeds to Jerusalem, where he participates in the morning Islamic worship on the Temple Mount with 400,000 Moslems. After this, he comes down from the Temple Mount, breaks all the crosses, destroys the churches of the Christians and the synagogues of the Jews. And on that day, all the Jews and Christians, the People of the Book, who have not converted to Islam, embraced Allah as God, and Mohammed as the greatest of all the prophets, will be put to the sword by Jesus the Moslem.

As we listen carefully to Islamic clerics preaching in mosques, we hear all too often: “Kill the Jew, Kill the Christian. Kill the Israeli, Kill the American.” All of this is uttered in one breath. By the way, this is to be done after the killing of the pagans such as the Hindus and Buddhists. So Islam is a global threat, and all mankind must unite to oppose and vanquish Islam. Moslems are good people, like the Germans or Russians, but Islam as a system is evil like Nazism and Communism
Posted by:Lucky

#4  to be truthful, LH, the word goyim was probably meant as derogatory at least 90% of the time it was used n conversation at least unitl the past few years

I think it is now a word in transition and it frequently has a neutral meaning.
Posted by: mhw   2004-07-06 1:06:55 PM  

#3  goy is simply Hebrew for nation. Since Israel is always called an "am" (people) in the bible, not a nation, goyim (nations) implicitly means non-Jews - everybody else. At some point in folk usage it came to mean non-Jews as invididuals - theres nothing necessarily derogatory about it, except as any term used by a minority for a (sometime oppressive) majority tends to take on negative connotations.

Theres certainly no particular basis in Jewish law for a distinction between pagans on the one hand, and christians on the other. In fact those medieval Jewishlegal authorities who wasy a distinction between the "daughter" religions and paganism tended to see monotheistic Islam as closer than Christianity, though I think this cant be considered settled law.

In more modern times theres been a greater tendency to see a special relationship between Judaism and Christianity - notably the work of Frans Rosenzweig - though im quite sure FR doesnt class Islam with paganism.

So basically the above is bunk. But you could have figured that out yourself, no?
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-07-06 12:23:13 PM  

#2  Sorry, it was Victor Mordecai via michaelmedved.com
Posted by: Lucky   2004-07-06 12:12:22 PM  

#1  The link is bad on this one. Who wrote this??
Posted by: peggy   2004-07-06 9:21:42 AM  

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