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| Two Girls Honor-Killed for Visiting Grandparents Without Permission | |
| 2004-07-14 | |
| From the Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society ... two girls have been killed in the name of honour after visiting their grandparents without permission in Sindh Province of Pakistan. .... Ms Tahmeena (17) and Ms Aabida (18), who are cousins, were shot to death after having been accused of having "loose morals" for having visited their grandparents without permission. The decision to kill the girls was taken in a tribal jirga, convened amongst the perpetrators and led by Mr. Abdul Rasheed, the tribal chief and a powerful landlord in the village. Abdul Rasheed reportedly told the tribe men to go through the village and that he would arrive with the girls. The three men could not find any public transportation and thus did not arrive at the village until after midnight. Upon their arrival, the eight perpetrators also arrived by car with the victims. The perpetrators told the girls to get out of the car and allegedly told the relatives to kill the girls because they had "loose morals," having visited their grandparents without first getting family permission. Fazaluddin, Hidayatullah, and Dad Mohammad reportedly begged them not to kill the girls. Nevertheless, the perpetrators shot the girls and then took the bodies in order to cover up their crime. The perpetrators reportedly threatened the witnesses with death if they were to complain to the police.
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| Posted by:Mike Sylwester |
| #11 not without an attitude wake up, Barb - we'd just be supplying arms to their oppressors. Need an intervention first, to use the current fad phrase. I call it a reality-slap upside the head |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-07-14 10:47:05 PM |
| #10 Reason #9843 to arm the women of these regions to the hilt. Wonder how far "honor" will get then? |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-07-14 10:23:59 PM |
| #9 The excuses they give for this shit just get more and more bizarre. Wonder what it'll be next time, and we know there will be a next time. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2004-07-14 12:35:40 PM |
| #8 Thanks, Bulldog. Death for women's voluntary sexual activities? What, did those two girls have sex with Grampa? |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-07-14 12:27:46 PM |
| #7 Thanks mhw. Fromw the link I get the impression that the Koran does not specifically advocate honour killings, but that Sharia Law does. "...While the Koran is full of guidelines on how to control women's sexuality, and Islamic Law; Sharia, rules harsh punishments including lashing and stoning to death for women's voluntary sexual activities, this denial is nothing but an apology for Islamic misogynism..." |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-07-14 8:52:15 AM |
| #6 Bulldog, the secularislam site has more background on the honor killing issue at: http://www.secularislam.org/women/honor.htm |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-07-14 8:30:07 AM |
| #5 Is 'honour' killing specifically mentioned in the Koran? |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-07-14 6:32:18 AM |
| #4 I doubt this was just plain disobedience. They were almost certainly guilty of something far worse to merit this 'end'. I wonder if they'd been caught smoking? |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-07-14 6:23:01 AM |
| #3 Man, if they were in America, they probably would've gotten grounded. We're the savages with grounding and panties on heads, and all. Come on, it's just their "culture." (Sarcasm) |
| Posted by: Anonymous5420 2004-07-14 6:09:17 AM |
| #2 anymouse, they may have had sex with the wolf on the way to grandma's house. If so, its death man! |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-07-14 2:30:08 AM |
| #1 Oh, yeah. Another fine example of islam's finest. Brave, MuslimP "men" killing girls to preserve the honor of the men. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2004-07-14 12:54:15 AM |