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| Euros fear Muslim converts may give cover to extremism |
| 2004-07-19 |
| The Courtailler brothers grew up in this medieval Alpine town, children of a butcher who went broke, who divorced his wife and moved to a job in a meatpacking plant far away. Two of the three brothers, David and JérÎme, educated in Catholic schools, foundered in drugs until they found religion: Islam. Within five years of David's initial conversion at a mosque in the British seaside resort of Brighton in 1996, the brothers embraced many of the leading lights of Europe's Islamic terror network. David, 28, is now in jail, and in late June, JérÎme, 29, turned himself in to the police in the Netherlands, days after he was convicted by a court there of belonging to an international terrorist group. The Courtaillers are part of a growing group of people who found a home in Islam and then veered into extremism, raising concerns among antiterrorism officials on both sides of the Atlantic that the new recruits could provide foreign-born Islamic militants with invisibility and cover, by escaping the scrutiny often reserved for young men of Arab descent. |
| Posted by:Dan Darling |
| #17 Anonymous4617---Fred has done an IP search on what you wanted, as well as a search for the poster you requested on Rantburg. Email him and he will give you the information, or you can email me. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2004-07-19 10:49:55 PM |
| #16 Anonymous5854: You are a friggin "girly-man"!! |
| Posted by: anymouse 2004-07-19 2:56:55 PM |
| #15 5854 - shut the fuck up, limp-wristed pissant. I won't watch you, I'll find you. |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-07-19 12:28:57 PM |
| #14 LH, People don't convert to Wahabism or to Salafism, etc. (I'm pretty sure you know that). So it isn't clear how you would know even if good conversion records were kept. The more interesting stat is how many people attend mosques with raving lunatic Imans and donate to causes championed by raving lunatic Imans. The answer is a lot. |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-07-19 11:52:19 AM |
| #13 Anon5854, Is that a threat? |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-07-19 11:26:00 AM |
| #12 4617 Dhahran is observing you.... Anonymous5854, Please explain for the less subtle among us. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2004-07-19 11:00:29 AM |
| #11 raising concerns among antiterrorism officials on both sides of the Atlantic that the new recruits could provide foreign-born Islamic militants with invisibility and cover, by escaping the scrutiny often reserved for young men of Arab descent. Now yer learnin, boy-o. Now yer learnin. |
| Posted by: dreadnought 2004-07-19 10:20:02 AM |
| #10 We should take a page from their manual - beheadings for anyone converting to the ROP. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-07-19 9:55:26 AM |
| #9 the word that showed up nowhere in the NYT article - wahabism. Were these converts to wahabism? What percentage of Western converts to Islam are converting to Wahabism. Wahabism - now THERES a pathogen. IMHO failing (as the MSM regularly does) to distinguish between Wahabism and other forms of Islam accounts for much of the current confusion between a religion (albeit one that, like Judaism, attempts to regulate parts of life that in Christianity are left to Caesar), and what is essentially a political ideology, and a hatefilled one at that. |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-07-19 9:26:19 AM |
| #8 4617 Dhahran is observing you.... |
| Posted by: Anonymous5854 2004-07-19 5:43:01 AM |
| #7 A4617 - Excellent news! Take great care and accept a (premature) Welcome Home! You'll be back in time to register & vote, too! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-19 1:31:11 AM |
| #6 Hi .com, I have been very busy packing. We will be out of hear on Wednesday! I will be in touch. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-07-19 1:22:18 AM |
| #5 A4617 - Hey, Sis! Good to see you're still with us! And a terrific spot-on observation, though I think it's time to stop referring to Islam as a religion. I think of it as a pathogen, but then you may recall how much shit that term stirs up, heh. I hope your packing and arrangements are going well! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-19 1:09:09 AM |
| #4 There are a lot of people who find religion when they fall on hard times. Those who convert to Christianity, Buddism, Hinduism, etc, turn to do good and help other people. Those who convert to Islam, turn to destruction, murder, bigotry and terrorism. This is one of the most striking difference between any religion and Islam. |
| Posted by: Anonymous4617 2004-07-19 12:55:47 AM |
| #3 Aw, Dr Steve, you're such a forgiving sweetie! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-19 12:47:55 AM |
| #2 Day late and a dollar short, but the NYT finally seems to be getting it. A little. Maybe. |
| Posted by: Steve White 2004-07-19 12:38:40 AM |
| #1 I offer a massively ironic "F**kin Duh". |
| Posted by: .com 2004-07-19 12:33:07 AM |
