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Africa: North
Egypt newspaper: Holocaust a lie
2004-08-04
EFL
"Nope. Nope. Never happened..."
Egypt's leading newspaper has published a series of articles that deny the Holocaust, and claim Jews invented "lies of genocide" to extort the West and make possible the establishment of the Jewish state, prompting some Israeli lawmakers to express reservations about allowing Egypt to control security in Gaza after Sharon's withdrawal plan is implemented next year. Dr. Rif'at Sayyed Ahmad, director of the Jaffa Research Center in Cairo and columnist for Al-Liwaa Al-Islami, Egypt's state-controlled newspaper, published a two-part article, 'The Lie About The Burning of the Jews,' which claims the Holocaust was a Jewish invention.
Posted by:Dragon Fly

#14  I thought Islam was a lie?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)   2004-08-04 7:38:22 PM  

#13  Let's do the math:

1.) Al-Liwaa Al-Islami is Egypt’s state-controlled newspaper.

2.) We send Egypt scads of bucks in foreign aid.

3.) Egypt uses the money they save to publish this sort of hate speech. Yes, it's hate speech, don't call a camel a goat. Holocaust denial is a prine indicator of those who would like to see it repeated. America needs to penalize Egypt for promoting this sort of vile revisionist propaganda.

I also advocate a mysterious and highly destructive explosion on the premises of Al-Liwaa Al-Islami's printing presses. Crap like this needs to carry a very painful pricetag. Egypt and other Arab countries broadcasting the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was bad enough. America is effectively financing this sort of evildoing and either we make promoters of anti-Semitism (and hate speech in general) pay a price for it or openly admit to the most hideous of alliances. We can do better and our nation deserves better.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-04 4:00:39 PM  

#12  If you have an agenda and a holocaust or genocide fact conflicts with your agenda, revise history, not your agenda. But not to worry, the UN will take care of all the people in Darfor in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-08-04 1:30:40 PM  

#11  I don't think Chris really expected an answer. Just bomb-throwing and scooting
Posted by: Frank G   2004-08-04 12:50:15 PM  

#10  Hmmm... Let's start with Poland, which had a 5% Jewish population before WWII, and less than 1% after. Where'd they go? The space alien story just isn't working. . . But what do you expect from Egypt or any Arab country. "Don't confuse me with the facts"
Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-04 12:35:36 PM  

#9  Geez, this fixation on Jews by Arabs seems so, ....abnormal.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-08-04 12:13:49 PM  

#8  don't forget it wasn't just Germany, all of Europe was in on that one. hitler(lower cased on purpose, don want to give any respect to the bastard) did not invent the ideas that ultimately resulted in the holocaust, hilter provided the political support to get done what people wanted done
(hitler originally just wanted to deport them, but that was not working out (people would just de-deport themselves and go back home) so he moved on to a more permanent and disturbing solution as suggested by one of his generals)
but none of it would have been possible if the rest of europe didn go "what now? We can get rid of the jeeews AND the gypsies??? YES!! right over there mister german soldier guy!"

the holocaust points to a sickness in all of western society and not one I think we ever really found a cure for...
Posted by: Dcreeper   2004-08-04 8:56:24 AM  

#7  #2 Can anyone please explain why the Jews genocide is more special that the Rwanda or the Bosnia genocide?


1-It was an industrialised genocide programed, developed 2- numbers (2x 3x 4x or more) than Ruanda genocide

3- it was within our civilisation

4- by one of most advanced countries in world
the country that "produced" Beethoven, Mozart, Goethe, Strauss and many others

5-by the educated elite that governed Germany not some warlord

5- Nazis wanted jews killed all over the world not only expelled from their homes, In Bosnia and Ruanda was only to seize territory.

6-Holocaust was ideological
To see the evil just check
the beaurocrats number that was in any of these "projects"...and compare.


7-Finnally Jews didnt have any rebel armed group, warlords or anything, they werent fighting for their territory, their were only pacific citizens of their country(ies) and many had died defending same country(ies) in other wars.


Posted by: Anonymous5666   2004-08-04 8:17:37 AM  

#6  Chris- genocide in it's extreme is the total elimination of a race or culture, and in my opinion only the Halocaust has approached this insane extreme. Hitler had his final solution, had the capability, was hell-bent to accomplish it, and was well along the way to eliminating one of the most productive, creative and vibrant people on this planet.
Posted by: Craig   2004-08-04 8:11:04 AM  

#5  I don't know Cheesehead the NYT might very well want to syndicate Dr. Rif’at Sayyed Ahmad column.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-08-04 7:14:20 AM  

#4  Chris:

1. I do not recall reading a ranking system here. But since you asked: As Howard UK mentioned numbers.

2. The fact that it is denied by countries and individuals make it very important. Remember the cliché that those who do not know history are doomed to etc.... Well, image if the story of the Jews was eliminated from history. Can you even begin to gauge the magnitude of such a thing?
Posted by: Dragon Fly   2004-08-04 6:46:24 AM  

#3  Numbers involved for one - and the slow brainwashing of a supposedly civilised nation into complicity - the industrialisation of genocide. I think that Rwanda and Bosnia, abhorrent though they were, were not on the same scale.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-08-04 6:39:33 AM  

#2  Can anyone please explain why the Jews genocide is more special that the Rwanda or the Bosnia genocide?
Posted by: Chris   2004-08-04 6:35:19 AM  

#1  Does anyone think this will make the NYT. Thought not
Posted by: cheaderhead   2004-08-04 6:26:41 AM  

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