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Why are non-Muslims discussing Islamic laws?
2004-08-10
(Well, if you got out of our faces with your 7th century lunacy, people might get out of your face. Is that a deal? No! thought not)
Lately, the Letters' section in malaysiakini has become more and more insensitive to other people's faith and religion. Try to find a letter from a Muslim, condemning other religions' rules or laws, will you find one?
Sermons, on the other hand...
But Islamic laws and practices have been criticised by non-Muslims, some of whom don't even know the exact rules regarding certain things in Islam. Apostasy is one issue, followed by the non-halal food issue in schools and then the Majlis Mufti Malaysia's decision on TV3's Karnival Sure Heboh. In the issue of apostasy, David King simply do not know that as a Muslim, defending Islam is a must, and the responsibility of every Muslim. It is the effort that counts for Muslims, though the result is in God's hand.
That's why good Muslims have to try to kill apostates...
If there is any law in any other religion regarding leaving one's religion, then let's hear it.
I don't think excommunication falls into the same category as homicide. I suppose I could be wrong...
I guess every religion believes that everything stated in their holy books is from God. But for non- Muslims to comment on Islamic laws is ridiculous, the same as it is for any Muslim to comment on the laws of other religions'.
Muslims comment on other religions and cultures seemingly at every opportunity. Non-Moose Limbs tend to comment more on the bloodthirst, perfidy, endemic brutality and primitivism associated with Islam...
Posted by:tipper

#10  Zpaz, I didn't realize the sarcasm tag was necessary. I'll remember next time.
Posted by: BH   2004-08-10 17:20  

#9  BH, you ask why I am questioning Islamhick "law"s? I question said laws because practitioners of said laws are trying to kill me. Do you get it now?
Posted by: Zpaz   2004-08-10 16:43  

#8  The source page http://media.islamway.com/arabic/images/lessons/burek/monkey.rm has now been removed and the http://media.islamway.com is now forbidden to infidels. How are the little Jihadis gonna get their daily dose of Islamic pr0n when they keep moving the links?
Posted by: ed   2004-08-10 16:31  

#7  In other words, Islamic laws should be beyond criticism, even discussion for both Muslims and other believers.

Funny, how they view themselves, isn't it? Muslims don't comment on anyone else's laws so why do you persecute us, sez the mooslim guy. Strange, I thought Islam was the religion that defined itself from the beginning by constantly and obsessively comparing itself to the religions that came before it. How is it even possible to say that your religion is the final religion in a string of religions without being concerned with differentiating yourself from them through comparison? When your religion is the latest one, how is it possible to even begin without commenting on another religion's laws and beliefs and criticizing them? Wouldn't your religion then be founded on denial and judgement of other religons???

This guy is rich.

I don't think I need to remind any Christians here about this, but until 9/11, Islam was given practically no notice by Christians except for what was then the fringe. Muslims have been training their kids from knee high to be able to rehearse why they are not Christians or Jews for decades now. Islamism and its conviction that Islam is infinitely superior to other religions has been a force in the world for a century. In sermon after sermon in mosques all over the world, imams begin by comparing and criticizing other religions then moving on to "prove" how much better Islam is. Its the form that almost every sermon takes. You can count on any Muslim is any situation to try and turn the subject to criticism of Western life/religion and the virtues of Islam.

Fecking hell, people like this really annoy me. Can you tell? ;)
Posted by: peggy   2004-08-10 16:07  

#6  Zpaz: Does YOUR religion allow flying airplanes into buildings? No? Then why are you questioning it? If your religion allowed flying airplanes into buildings, do you think Moozleems would criticize it?
Posted by: BH   2004-08-10 15:38  

#5  1. Of course its desirable that when we discuss another religions laws and practices, we do so with as much knowledge as possible.

2. Nonetheless its inevitable that when religious practice impacts on others, even in innocous ways, discussion of said practice becomes inevitable. For example the prayer room. I could respond that Judaism requires prayer 3 times per day. On the other hand one need not have group to pray with, one can do so by oneself. Unless, of course, one is in mourning, and needs a prayer quorum to say Kaddish, the prayer for the dead. So do observant Jews have the same needs as Muslims? It requires a discussion of BOTH jewish and muslim practice to see. While resentment of others unnecessarily and ignorantly discussing ones religious practice is understandable, this can easily look like excessive touchiness.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-08-10 15:00  

#4  Why are non-Muslims discussing Islamic laws?

Dunno. Why are Muslims flying airplanes into buildings?
Posted by: Zpaz   2004-08-10 14:51  

#3  Why are non-Muslims discussing Islamic laws?

It's called freedom of speech, babe.
Posted by: jules 187   2004-08-10 13:59  

#2  Islam isn't just a religion, it's a set of laws as well. So when they talk about their "religion" they are also talking about the laws they intend to follow - many of which are contrary to the laws of our land.

What ever happened to the oath of citizenship. It seems to me that, according to the Muslim's themselves, they have to agree to follow our laws if they want to become citizens....and apparently those are in conflict with their "religion". Not acceptable, sorry.
Posted by: B   2004-08-10 13:59  

#1  So please respect the religion of others if you want people to respect yours.

Seems reasonable enough.
Doesn't it....INFIDEL!!!!
Posted by: tu3031   2004-08-10 12:22  

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