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| Iraqi Army to Lead Attack in Najaf |
| 2004-08-15 |
| Iraq's Prime Minister Ayad Allawi ordered troops from the country's newly formed army to lead an attack against Shiite Muslim militia in Najaf, the Washington Post said, citing Iraqi officials and U.S. Army commanders. The deployment is the first since sovereignty was restored to Iraq on June 28, the newspaper said. A U.S.-led attack would have been politically hazardous as the militia, led by cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, are holed up at the shrine of Imam Ali, one of Shiite Islam's most sacred sites. ``I think the reason Allawi called us off is this would've turned quickly into the occupier versus the defender of the holy shrine, no matter what the truth is,'' said Major David Holahan of the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit, the Post reported. ``The city would've been damaged, and Sadr would have gained in popularity.'' Yesterday peace talks between Sadr and the Iraqi interim government broke down, ending a two-day truce. Sadr and his ``Mahdi Army'' are calling for the U.S. to withdraw from Iraq. |
| Posted by:Frank G |
| #22 Oldspook may have it right,and the Iraqi's may storm the shrine.Makes sense. |
| Posted by: crazyhorse 2004-08-15 11:54:01 PM |
| #21 those who ignore history are probably having a piss poor time in math and practical cookery. Not to mention geography. Even those watching news on the idiot box will eventually be told where Najaf is. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2004-08-15 6:23:58 PM |
| #20 Old Spook, sometimes your predictions scare me and I came out of CI when I dove into the civilian world. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2004-08-15 6:03:57 PM |
| #19 Thanks OS for the nane (and correction). I just hope that they take video and pictures and plaster them all over the news and in Sadr city. Would like to see Tater coming out in tears, begging for his life.... For all his tough talk I dont think he is all that brave. He reminds me of the schoolyard bully. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-08-15 2:20:30 PM |
| #18 In Gentles case those who ignore history are probably having a piss poor time in math and practical cookery. |
| Posted by: Abu MacShipman 2004-08-15 12:14:48 PM |
| #17 CrazyFool - Its Santayana, a Spanish philosopher (to whom the Spanish have obviously not listened). "He who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it" As for the "Negotiations", and such - I TOLD YOU SO! Thats why there was a 3 day pause: it was to allow the Iraqi forces to pre-position, plan and set up coordination with US forces for taking the Shrine. That and to pre-position Iraqi Police (and Multinational force troops) for the (inevitable) Sadr inspired rioting in Najaf and also in other cities. This means if Sadr dies, he dies from an Iraqi (Moslem) bullet. |
| Posted by: Oldspook 2004-08-15 12:13:40 PM |
| #16 Gentle, "Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it." -- (I dont recall who said that...) |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-08-15 12:00:34 PM |
| #15 Tony(UK) wrote in #12: We Built This City I envision mass handwringing from human rights orgs the world over decrying the incomprehensible cruelty of exposing them to Starship at such volumes. Talk about man's inhumanity to man! (And the irony of a group sneering at bands taking the corporate dollar while taking the corporate dollar.) |
| Posted by: eLarson 2004-08-15 12:00:07 PM |
| #14 ACDC - Highway to Hell |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-15 11:53:27 AM |
| #13 heh, heh. "sloppy joe." |
| Posted by: nada 2004-08-15 11:51:41 AM |
| #12 Well, anyone taking bets on the shrine being levelled by the end of the week? Tater is supposed to have wired the place - going out in a blaze of glory. I'd prefer some psy-ops really. 110 dB of Napalm Death, or maybe "We built this city", "The Final Countdown", or for the Brits here "Mr Blobby". No, no - I got it. "The Mashed Potato" |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2004-08-15 11:23:27 AM |
| #11 Ok can ask anyone a question? When are they gonna stop talking about this and do it? I'm so tired of reading the same shit everyday and nothing ever gets done. Just blow the damn mosque into the ground already and quit wasting time and men pussy footing around with these criminals. |
| Posted by: smokeysinse 2004-08-15 10:55:54 AM |
| #10 #9 - you're taking science in school? Based on your postings here, I suggest you demand your money back. As for history, those who do not learn the lessons of history are destined to repeat them. Anyway, your history should be easy to learn - it hasn't changed much in 1400 years. And, as near as I can tell, y'all make most of it up to suit yourselves anyway. (Kind of like our media. No wonder Sad-Sack's minion said the media are their special friends.) |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-08-15 10:13:09 AM |
| #9 i do know. But its so twisted you can't keep everything in mind. AND I don't know about any shrine. Will you stop with the history! I hate it. It was the reason I chose the science section in Sec. school. |
| Posted by: Gentle 2004-08-15 10:01:20 AM |
| #8 The Sunnis hold the Shi'a beneath contempt. Certainly, however, she protesteth too much, methinks, by implying she knows nothing of Shi'a Islam. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-15 9:55:03 AM |
| #7 Frank, I think Gentle considers the Shia to be a non Islamic sect. |
| Posted by: mhw 2004-08-15 9:48:10 AM |
| #6 "what shrine?" another clue Gentle's not in the ME - don't play the troll's game |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-15 9:36:34 AM |
| #5 Oh, you mean the Death Cult that was founded about 710 AD? Yeah that was unfortunate. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2004-08-15 9:34:49 AM |
| #4 What shrine is it you keep talking about? Don't mix Islam with the cults that later came up. |
| Posted by: Gentle 2004-08-15 9:29:15 AM |
| #3 An Iraqi blogger is reporting the fight has started. |
| Posted by: Anonymous5668 2004-08-15 9:28:33 AM |
| #2 Here's a little more from AP... Whew - let's all pray the shrine isn't damaged. |
| Posted by: Brutal 2004-08-15 9:25:46 AM |
| #1 Eggggcellent. |
| Posted by: whitecollar redneck 2004-08-15 9:23:48 AM |