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| 20 Scottish al-Qaeda suspects connected to mass murder plot |
| 2004-08-15 |
| Something tells me none of them are named Macleod ... British security services have compiled a 'hit-list' of 20 al-Qaeda terrorist suspects who are living in Scotland and said to be connected with a plot to unleash mass murder on the streets of the UK. The dossier, compiled by MI5 and Special Branch, contains the names of more than 80 alleged extremists across Britain whom security services allege were involved in a plan to kill, using the deadly poison ricin. The 20 suspects living north of the Border are all Muslims and based in the Central Belt. Some are said to be British citizens. Nine of them are Algerians arrested and then cleared of terror-related charges following a massive police operation in Edinburgh in 2002. However, the identities of the 11 remaining suspects are known only to the security services. The existence of the dossier has been revealed by lawyers in London and Glasgow who represent foreign nationals facing deportation and criminal charges. The list has been submitted as evidence for Algerian asylum seekers facing deportation. The lawyers argue the dossier is shared by British and Algerian security services, which means anyone on the list sent back to Algeria faces certain death, even if they have been cleared of the charges. Henry Miller, a lawyer with London-based asylum specialists Birnberg Pierce Partners, last night confirmed "this list exists" but declined to give further details. But a legal source close to the asylum appeals told Scotland on Sunday: "There are 20 people on this list of 82 who are living in Scotland - both men and women. All of them are Muslim and they live in Glasgow and Edinburgh. Some of them may have been taken in for questioning previously, or arrested. But some of them do not even know they are terror suspects. The number of people on the list was accurate last year, but this may have increased. They seem to have been placed on this list through their links with other people. Some are British citizens and some are seeking asylum." |
| Posted by:Dan Darling |
| #21 "Welcome to the UK! We'll let you stay, but only if you're bad enough!" |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-15 5:41:07 PM |
| #20 "anyone on the list sent back to Algeria faces certain death, even if they have been cleared of the charges" Not the UK's problem. This should be an incentive not to engage in Jihad activities. F 'em! |
| Posted by: dennisw 2004-08-15 4:06:05 PM |
| #19 Where are The Queen's Own Kamikaze Highlanders when we need them? |
| Posted by: Zenster 2004-08-15 3:11:58 PM |
| #18 Abu MacShipman----Great multi-cultural handle, Ship! |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2004-08-15 1:29:08 PM |
| #17 Raj - That's my girl! Er, well, I have several, heh... Saved, Thx! |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-15 12:13:55 PM |
| #16 I would advise the suspects to move north into a friendlier climate. |
| Posted by: Abu MacShipman 2004-08-15 12:09:50 PM |
| #15 .com - Is this who you speak of? |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-08-15 12:07:28 PM |
| #14 (obscure historical reference)Being in Scotland and all, I wonder if they planned to live in a cave and eat passerby--maybe cooked in a nice haggis.(/ Anonymoose, you wouldn't be referring to that dear little tribe of 18th century cannibal highwaymen, would you? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2004-08-15 11:48:48 AM |
| #13 They're probably friends of Gentle anyway. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2004-08-15 11:38:35 AM |
| #12 anyone on the list sent back to Algeria faces certain death, even if they have been cleared of the charges Then deport them to the United Arab Emirates, which can give them asylum. . |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-08-15 11:37:37 AM |
| #11 Well, over here in Blighty, there is a 20:1 ratio of prisoner:victim charities. Does that sound PC enough? Yes .com - that's exactly the state of affairs here. We're constantly being told that we're "institutionally racist" - a brilliant phrase, as it means exactly what the accuser wants it to mean. This is eroding respect for the police here, which is obviously not a good situation. As for these twats in Scotland, send 'em all back to the mustachioed men... |
| Posted by: Tony (UK) 2004-08-15 11:12:38 AM |
| #10 BD - Arrrrggghhh! You need that mythical "cowboy" tradition! It worries me that your law enforcement is so thoroughly PC-ized - particularly at the top. There was a terrific UK "cop show" series starring Helen Mirren (and I'd still hit it!) that was a bona-fide eye-opener for me - and I assume it wasn't far off the mark, given the education you and your fellow UK denizens have posted. Mind boggling, in fact. I believe that the rank and file of law enforcement here in the US is a thin blue line between us and chaos - thankfully, PCism seems to be the exception. I attribute it to the common-sense traditions of Wyatt Earp & Co. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-15 10:27:57 AM |
| #9 (obscure historical reference)Being in Scotland and all, I wonder if they planned to live in a cave and eat passerby--maybe cooked in a nice haggis.(/end obscure historical reference) |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2004-08-15 10:25:04 AM |
| #8 LOL .com - superb!!! Yes, it's pretty indicative of the state of things as regards law and disorder in the UK. The personnel, equipment and techniques are all there and could be used to combat crime very effectively, but the self-imposed straightjacket that is PC-think (criminals' 'rights' protection) and excess bureaucracy, and refusal to implement effective and deterring punishments on criminals, makes law enforcement a bad joke much of the time. Gentle - Yep, I'm British. It's no secret! |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-15 10:18:11 AM |
| #7 And that's why we luv ya, BD! Puhleeze feel free to rant - we're worried about PCism here in the States, but we're also worried about our cousins! I fear your circumstances are far more dire than ours, regards immigration. While persistent stupidity in our laws seems to stem mainly from a near-gridlock politically, and a corresponding unwillingness to tackle the subject, yours seems to be thoroughly institutionalized insanity already. And they've disarmed you, to boot. Does this article sum that last part up correctly? |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-15 10:08:03 AM |
| #6 Are you British? Or is that a taboo subject with you guys? "I mean where you come from" |
| Posted by: Gentle 2004-08-15 10:04:16 AM |
| #5 anyone on the list sent back to Algeria faces certain death, I guess the logic is that we should leave them in UK so they can kill us instead. |
| Posted by: B 2004-08-15 10:02:18 AM |
| #4 "The men are planning to use the fact they are on the list as a key argument in their asylum claims." Only in a PC-insane society like Britain's at the moment, would that argument make sense. Send them all back to Algeria, where they obviously have a better idea of how to treat such people. Pronto. I don't want my taxes spent protecting men who want me dead - but then I'm not well versed in PC-logic. |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-15 9:55:46 AM |
| #3 I guess "certain death" has a nice ring to it when applying for that visa... |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-15 9:43:33 AM |
| #2 "anyone on the list sent back to Algeria faces certain death, even if they have been cleared of the charges" hokay |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-08-15 9:41:41 AM |
| #1 wow! |
| Posted by: Anonymous5668 2004-08-15 9:39:20 AM |
