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Iran warns of preemptive strike on US forces
2004-08-19
Iranian Defence Minister Ali Shamkhani has warned that Iran might launch a preemptive strike against US forces in the region to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities. "We will not sit [with arms folded] to wait for what others will do to us," Mr Shamkhani told Al Jazeera television when asked if Iran would respond to an American attack on its nuclear facilities. "Some military commanders in Iran are convinced that preventive operations which the Americans talk about are not their monopoly. America is not the only one present in the region. We are also present, from Khost to Kandahar in Afghanistan; we are present in the Gulf and we are can be present in Iraq. The US military presence [in Iraq] will not become an element of strength [for Washington] at our expense. The opposite is true, because their forces would turn into a hostage" in Iranian hands in the event of an attack.
These guys have just the right phrasing to stir Cthulu from the pit, don't they? What will they do next, openly say they're going to detonate a nuke in NYC? Threaten to assassinate the US Congress? Send an entire Division to invade Russia? Are they completely nuts?
Posted by:Anonymoose

#45  This thread should go down as the mother of all bandwidth sinkholes.

Your post brings to mind the image of Harrison Ford shooting the guy swinging the big saber!

Nitpick: That was a scimitar, not a sabre.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-19 6:28:25 PM  

#44  Geez, .com, you have one impressive graphics library. That was fast!
Posted by: jules 187   2004-08-19 2:38:11 PM  

#43  For Raj...

Posted by: .com   2004-08-19 2:15:46 PM  

#42  Dutch (Ahhnuld in Predator) to James Carville - "You're one ugly motherfucker".
Posted by: Raj   2004-08-19 2:06:41 PM  

#41  The Iranians are all hat, no cattle.
Posted by: Secret Master   2004-08-19 2:06:21 PM  

#40  Another attack on the US, at this point, would be an invitation to take the war to Iran.

ZF : Do I hear echoes of Clint Eastwood?

Oh Murat :
Here is one from the same website as your photo:



Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-19 1:07:01 PM  

#39  RC - I wonder if one of the mods can check IP / ranges from then Murat & now Murat from their postings & confirm your theory?
Posted by: Raj   2004-08-19 12:58:46 PM  

#38  could this be someone aspiring to be like his hero Murat then? mildly amusing i suppose,carry on
Posted by: Shep UK   2004-08-19 12:51:14 PM  

#37  Murat got a little picture for us all eh, how nice. Anyway we think its time you crawled back into the little islamic slime hole you came from,go on slither away back to your islamic fantasy land.
Posted by: Shep UK   2004-08-19 12:49:41 PM  

#36  too hell with hitting their nuke facilities. Lets do a pre emptive nuke on the whole country of iran.
Posted by: smokeysinse   2004-08-19 12:17:47 PM  

#35  The real Murat wouldn't say "dear Stevo". Plus, American soldiers are not dying in large numbers, so he's got no reason to gloat.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-08-19 12:10:48 PM  

#34  More evidence it's not the original Murat.

Oddly innovative tactic for a troll -- adopt the name of a former regular.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-08-19 11:20:38 AM  

#33  This Ali Shamkhani is not the most smart person is he, he is a bit off to reality if he really made such a statement, but I begin to like this guy.

Unintentional or not, this says loads about you.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-08-19 11:12:26 AM  

#32  It's your own harp, Murat. Ever hear of a guy named Fflewdur Fflam?
Posted by: Steve from Relto   2004-08-19 10:07:48 AM  

#31  Headline: Iran warns of preemptive strike on US forces

Actually, they've already attacked the US repeatedly - Embassy hostages, the Marine bombings in Lebanon, et al - without suffering the consequences. Why wouldn't they be belligerent? Another attack on the US, at this point, would be an invitation to take the war to Iran.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-08-19 9:58:55 AM  

#30  Murat, what is Blair holding in that image? If its a gas can it doesn't really work with the title. It looks more like something you would use in your garden to me. Very confusing, as if they couldnt' find a decent picture of Blair or something.
Posted by: yank   2004-08-19 9:56:36 AM  

#29  Yeah, my old bad habbit dear Stevo
Posted by: Murat   2004-08-19 9:51:57 AM  

#28  Ah, Murat. I come back and so do you, how 'bout that? And I see you've already broken a few harp strings.
Posted by: Steve from Relto   2004-08-19 9:42:24 AM  

#27  I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, I am votin' fer Cithuilu!
Posted by: Flamebait93268   2004-08-19 8:59:36 AM  

#26  it's Cthulhu, DAMMIT!
Posted by: Cthulhu   2004-08-19 8:06:36 AM  

#25  It'd be more efective if those wer mushroom clouds in the background.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-08-19 7:38:05 AM  

#24  LOL, Howard!
You ask me, it's a pretty great promo poster FOR the Coalition and the War on Terror!
(Better smoke in Baghdad than in New York, Washington and Shanksville, PA!)
Posted by: GreatestJeneration   2004-08-19 6:58:22 AM  

#23  Shame the mosque aint burnin...
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-08-19 6:49:52 AM  

#22  

Posted by: Murat   2004-08-19 6:47:06 AM  

#21  Like idiots they just keep rattliing their sabers

Your post brings to mind the image of Harrison Ford shooting the guy swinging the big saber! And that's about right!
Posted by: B   2004-08-19 5:36:13 AM  

#20  LOL, B!
At least they like each other.
Misery loves miserable company.
And interesting thought about the doing away with the pretension to take out Iran's nuke facilities.
Like idiots they just keep rattliing their sabers and someday soon they'll know it's not just a game of blindman's bluff anymore.
No country--least of all Iran--can outdo the stockpile of bad bombs we've got or their reach or their accuracy.
If they doubt, they should ask the Japanese and we've had 60 years to work on them since then.
(BTW, OBL loves to point to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as one of America's many "crimes" and yet he encourages his people to follow suit...)
Posted by: GreatestJeneration   2004-08-19 5:03:07 AM  

#19  pee ewu... what's that smell.
Posted by: B   2004-08-19 4:46:42 AM  

#18  This Ali Shamkhani is not the most smart person is he, he is a bit off to reality if he really made such a statement, but I begin to like this guy. He can replace my other comic hero AL Sahaf.
Posted by: Murat   2004-08-19 4:44:46 AM  

#17  interesting thoughts, but I'm also seeing another clear signal in all this.

Iran might launch a preemptive strike against US forces in the region to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities.

This combined with the article about Putin and Sharon causes me to believe that a strike on Iran's nuclear capablilities is such a serious option that everyone has stopped bothering to pretend that it's not.
Posted by: B   2004-08-19 4:43:54 AM  

#16  Iranian Defence Minister Ali Shamkhani has warned that Iran might launch a preemptive strike against US forces in the region to prevent an attack on its nuclear facilities.

Bwahahaha!! I hope the Brits are invited to the party, cheeky swines!
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-08-19 4:25:03 AM  

#15  There is no Iran that can kick the ass of the USA!
Hell, Iran can't even kick Israel's ass!
It's just more mullah dreaming..something they do lots of.
But your Moooslim dreams always involve death--too bad you can't see it will have to be yours and not ours.
Iran under the mullahocracy sucks--you know it does.
Just admit it. You'll feel better!
Posted by: GreatestJeneration   2004-08-19 4:18:47 AM  

#14  ... the denizens of Najaf spent a good deal of time squeegeeing Mahdi parts into the sewers recently

Boy howdy you have a way with words, Super Hose.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-19 4:15:27 AM  

#13  You all know that Iran really is the last piece of the puzzle in the war on terrorism.

North Korea has nukes, so that Korean peninsula has been written off in the event of aggressive action by Norks.

Iran, is a different matter.

They have to know their number is up in 2005.
But I can see a scenario whereby Iran deploys some crude nucelar device in the Gulf or in an allies' terrirory and starts making demands. I really believe the Mullahs are stupid enough to try something like this and judging by the past it is pretty certain that if they do in fact have a nuke, they will use it.

In 2005, all bets are off.
Posted by: badanov   2004-08-19 3:29:46 AM  

#12  Iran Will Kick,
The vapors from your drool must be inhibiting the coherence of your prose, but here is some clarification:
1. Iran can admit up one side of a tree and down the other, but it has no working nukes.
2. Reagan dealt with Iran quite effectively. When I sailed through the Gulf of Hormuz a number of times in the spring and summer of 89' and the Iranian forces sat quietly like a mutt that had been disciplined by a rolled up gazeta.
3. Reagan would have dealt more completely with the Iranian surrogates in Lebanon had the Congressional wankers like Kerry had the will to support man's work.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-08-19 3:03:49 AM  

#11  iran as already admited to posses nuks If you moron amerikan do not get that you are really fuck.
you rant-hamburgher should join that army one soldier one moron
one ranhamburgher 100000000 morons
Posted by: iran will kick your ass   2004-08-19 2:48:26 AM  

#10  Verbally baiting the US has been determined to be non-hazardous. I recommend that they don't move forces or otherwise provike us.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-08-19 2:27:23 AM  

#9  I am pretty sure that some of the naval group in the "region" can equip "thermo nuclear weapons" very quickly. I also am pretty sure there are all the necessary data to target them as well. Iran is on crack. They attack the US and all bets are off. Their will be no land war. We do not have any agreement about "not introducing nuclear weapons to the region." Listening to Condi Rice I don't doubt in a second we would use them if we felt it was required in our intrest.
Posted by: Flamebait93268   2004-08-19 1:49:08 AM  

#8  BAR - don't let the press fool you. I believe that the denizens of Najaf spent a good deal of time squeegeeing Mahdi parts into the sewers recently. Our military is still the same force that burried Sadaam's forces with bulldozers in '91.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-08-19 1:36:13 AM  

#7  Here is a terrific roundup of intel, news, capabilties, analysis, speculation, and informed guesswork. I love these guys - cuz they're informed and organized, heh.

Global Security Org's Target Iran page. So much to play with!

Can you believe John Pike (easily one of the best miltary analysts you see brought in to act as expert on the news shows when the shit hits the fan) & GlobalSecurity exist on donations? Yep. Hit their tip jar, too, if you can spare a buck or three.
Posted by: .com   2004-08-19 1:26:03 AM  

#6  What makes you think they don't already have that target list already dialed in - and have the targets under surveillance?

Oh, I don't know; a goodwill gesture perhaps? Pardon me if I don't sound all that confident that our forces are fully prepared, but the "sensitive" tendency of the tactics employed by our forces as of late don't exactly inspire confidence that the proper response will come at the proper time.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-08-19 1:07:15 AM  

#5  B.A.R. - What makes you think they don't already have that target list already dialed in - and have the targets under surveillance? SLAR can look a loooong ways into Iran from 40,000 feet along the Iranian borders with Iraq and Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf. Not to mention satellites...
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-08-19 12:58:10 AM  

#4  What more is required in order for there to be unalloyed bipartisan support of military action against Iran? There are no more excuses, save the flagrant and treasonous desire for a terrorist nuclear attack on American soil.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-19 12:49:30 AM  

#3  Time to gather up a list of GPS target coordinates to send to all U.S. naval vessels and U.S. Air Force attack aircraft in the Gulf region. These guys are pushing their luck, and hopefully they are about to find out what it's like to be in Saddam Hussein's shoes.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-08-19 12:48:51 AM  

#2  What a gift this would be. What are the chances they will follow through?
Posted by: Rafael   2004-08-19 12:38:56 AM  

#1  With Sadr retreating,they must bluster to keep what fires they have in Iraq burning,maybe ?
Posted by: crazyhorse   2004-08-19 12:32:16 AM  

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