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| With Some Women, Life is Impossible Unless You Carry a Rod |
| 2004-08-31 |
| The following are excerpts from a Friday sermon aired live on Qatar TV on August 27: We must know that [wife] beating is a punishment in Islamic religious law. No one should deny this because this was permitted by the Creator of Man, and because when you purchase an electric appliance or a car you get instructions - a catalogue, explaining how to use it. The Creator of Man has sent down this book [the Koran] in order to show Man which ways he must choose. We shouldn't be ashamed before the nations of the world who are still in their days of ignorance, to admit that these [beatings] are part of our religious law. We must remind the ignorant from among the Islamic Nation who followed the [West], that those [westerners] acknowledge the wondrous nature of this verse. There are three types of women with whom life is impossible without beatings. In America six million women are beaten by their husbands every year. These are their own official statistics. 4000-6000 women die as a result of their husbands' beatings. London police, every year, answer 100,000 phone calls and complaints of attacks against wives. In France, their slogan is, "Beat the wife morning, noon and night, and don't ask her why — she knows the reason." But they use their media to blow this out of proportion. They blow what is happening in the Muslim countries out of proportion. They bring a woman from South-Eastern Asia with a swollen face and present her on TV, claiming this was done by a Muslim who attacked his wife. They forget that Islam is a religion that forbids beating the face even of beasts. It is forbidden to beat even a donkey on its face. |
| Posted by:tipper |
| #15 Gentle? ....I guess that would be a "no". |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-08-31 8:29:07 PM |
| #14 Gentle? Care to comment? |
| Posted by: Anonymous6226 2004-08-31 3:47:08 PM |
| #13 I want a refund! |
| Posted by: mojo 2004-08-31 12:59:15 PM |
| #12 Eeeeewww! I think I woke up next to her one morning in my younger days... |
| Posted by: Fred 2004-08-31 12:57:15 PM |
| #11 bhurkas can be a good thing .. http://www.silvercreek.wclark.k12.in.us/StudentWork/StudentPages/KCarney/ugly_girl.jpeg or to put it another way "all that glitters is not gold " *shrug |
| Posted by: MacNails 2004-08-31 11:11:07 AM |
| #10 With Some Women, Life is Impossible Unless You Carry a Rod Found myself agreeing... of course, I thought he was talking about a fishing rod. What a sitzpinkler. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-08-31 10:36:26 AM |
| #9 peggy - regards your #7, it brings to mind a Firesign Theater comedy routine in which the contestant, a Mrs Presky, wins. A Don Pardo-like voice then presents her with her prize. She seem flustered and then says, "But it's a bag of shit!" And he say, "But it's really great shit, Mrs Presky!" Accurate parallel, methinks. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-31 10:10:09 AM |
| #8 peggy - It's heartbreaking to see the little kids in SA waiting for their schoolbuses. The boys and girls are there together and having a blast, giggling and squealing. I'd see them everyday heading off to work - the workday starts at 7:00 AM at Aramco. Then one of the girls disappears from the bus stop. Then another. When you've been there long enough you learn why. After that, when you see them, you want to kidnap them or something. Born to this shit. No choice. Captive for life. Indoctrinated. Beaten down figuratively and literally. A dog's life is better. Fastest growing religion my ass - only by the fact that the women are baby factories - certainly not by conversion. That's for the misfit males who like the power trip - or women who are masochistic or have a Daddy Complex. Half their brainpower basically discarded at birth on the random chance of gender. Insane comes to mind. |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-31 10:06:40 AM |
| #7 Another thing is that the degree in which a women disappears from public and submits to her menfolk is equated with spiritual "maturity". Does the way that muslim apologists employ language remind anyone else of "1984" Maybe instead of Bibles we should flood the muslim world with copies of it ;) |
| Posted by: peggy 2004-08-31 9:54:37 AM |
| #6 .COM yes it is most definitely taught or rather equated so obessesively and unrelentingly with piety that poor little girls really don't have a chance. Its funny that on the one hand muslims claim that all women are just dying to cover up and that extreme modesty is natural to women while at the same time women are constantly hounded to develop a hyper-sensitivity to any sort of male attention to the point where I have seen Western women converts bragging about how they never used to mind being around men but have cultivated such extreme sensitivity at the urging/braisnwashing of their mentors etc. that they now feel naked without being fully covered. One who grew up in the west and must know better claimed once that if she was to pray outside of the locked womens balcony in her mosque that she knew that men would come off the street just to stare at her even in her burqa. She was of course praised for realizing the truth about men blah blah. In this respect, it is much like a cult where a person especially a young person is simply worn down until they "see" the truth and neccesity of this article of clothing even with all the evidence to the contrary not to mention it also being contrary to common sense. My favorite was a poem emailed to a little muslim girl that i knew that claimed that only if she wore a scarf would she be respected for the person she was and for her abilities not for her appearance. It neglected to mention why she should let what other people think of her to dictate her life, actions and dress. I did what I could to point that out by the way. But with Mom and big sis already convinced that they should wear it, it was a lost cause. Its a shame that because she was such an independent and vivacious little thing, but the meme that piousness is measured by the degree that women hide themselves from the world and make themselves less and less noticable was already in place. |
| Posted by: peggy 2004-08-31 9:44:01 AM |
| #5 Wonder what the statistics are in Islamic countries for husbands whose throats are slit during the night? Harsh? You bet-and completely justifiable for muthahs who use God as an excuse for beating their wives. |
| Posted by: jules 187 2004-08-31 9:23:07 AM |
| #4 Title should be; "For some women, life is impossible unless they pack a rod". |
| Posted by: Steve 2004-08-31 8:26:15 AM |
| #3 In the same vein as your pithy post, Mike... This is called indoctrination, Mike. No child is born with a desire to show solidarity with diddley-squat, except a nipple, nor a desire to wear some funky headgear - nor any sense of shame if missing said funky headgear. Just for "clarity", picture in your mind Mike "Myers" as Austin "Powers" or as Dr "Evil" making the "double quotes" gesture with his "fingers" and then "read" this, plz: These are "acquired" - and in the case of Islam, "taught". Just wanted to make this "clear", K? |
| Posted by: .com 2004-08-31 7:50:51 AM |
| #2 Many Moslem girls insist on attending school with scarves on their heads to demonstrate their solidarity with this religion. . |
| Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2004-08-31 7:36:51 AM |
| #1 In the interest of equality he really should have added: There are three types of men with whom a woman cannot live unless she carries a rod on her shoulder. The first type is a boy who was brought up this way. His parents ask him to go to school and he doesn’t – they beat him. "Eat" – "I don’t want to" – they beat him. So he became accustomed to beatings, he was brought up that way. We pray Allah will help her husband later. She will only get along with him if she practices husband beating. The second type is a man who is condescending towards his wife and ignores her. With him, too, only a rod will help. The third type is a twisted man who will not obey his wife unless she oppresses him, beats him, uses force against him, and overpowers him with her voice. I wonder which type our misogynist mullah is? |
| Posted by: Bulldog 2004-08-31 2:36:00 AM |