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Home Front: Politix
Lansing clerk wading through bogus voter forms
2004-09-29
The Lansing city clerk's office is sorting through thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms that have been turned in recently.
"Thousands." Not "a few." Not "dozens." Not even "hundreds."
The city is using $2,000 from its general fund budget to pay for two temporary workers to sort through 5,000 to 8,000 bad forms. "We're going to have them painstakingly compare each form to the qualified voter file," Lansing City Clerk Debbie Miner said.
Good idea. Gimme a call. I can set you up with a program to help.
Just throw 'em up on the web and let the pajama brigade ankle-biters bloggers have at it.
Officials believe the forms were turned in by the state advocacy group Public Interest Research Group In Michigan, Ingham County Clerk Mike Bryanton said. The Ingham County Sheriff's Office is investigating.
"Yup. We're investigatin'. We think it wuz them..."
Yup, indictments any day now ...
Calls to PIRGIM's Ann Arbor office were not returned Friday or Tuesday. Bryanton said the investigation shows that some people took names out of a phone book and forged signatures. Meridian Township has been dealing with the same problem for the past few weeks. "They have no idea the problems they've caused," Meridian Township Clerk Mary Helmbrecht said. Helmbrecht said Tuesday that her staff hasn't requested extra help, but that her office has been flooded with extra forms. "We just got an envelope (Monday) with 100 more forms from that group," she said. "It's extraordinarily time consuming."
But if you just dump them all, you're "suppressing the vote."
I'm sure there's a reason why we can't require people to register to vote in person.
Last month, Helmbrecht's office notified Bryanton about registration form irregularities such as addresses that didn't exist or several people listed for the same apartment.
Are you checking for deaders, too?
Can't, they moved to Chicago.
The sheriff's investigation shows that members of PIRGIM, a statewide advocacy group that encourages voter registration, were paid $50 a day to collect registrations and were given bonuses for collecting extra forms, Bryanton said. The $2,000 Lansing is spending for two extra staffers for Miner's office came from an allocation in the city's general fund for temporary help for city offices. The request was approved at Monday's council meeting. The money comes at a time when Lansing may be facing as much as a $5 million budget deficit. "My own internal staff will be working with these people," Miner said. "We're working overtime every night as it is." Any form that looks similar to a form already in the qualified voter file will go into a separate "suspect" file, Miner said. Anyone who registered to vote by mail and did not provide proof of ID must show identification when voting, she said.
I know it suppresses the illegal alien vote, and the cons on the lam vote, and the dead vote, and the never-existed vote, but I still think you should have to show some sort of ID when voting. But in Ann Arbor they'd accuse me of setting fire to the Reichstag.
Posted by:Fred

#21  2B-Soros probably has more protective screens than Kim Jong-Il. May have even consulted lil' Kimmie as to the right kind of food tasters, etc.
Posted by: BigEd   2004-09-29 11:23:59 PM  

#20  I'm sick of Soros interferring in our election process. I wish he'd drop dead from a painful heart attack. This guy has caused more trouble in the world than one man should be allowed to cause.
Posted by: 2b   2004-09-29 9:32:33 PM  

#19  Actually, PIRG was one of Nader's brainchildren back in the '70's - they're all over the country, especially in college towns. They knock on doors in my neighborhood more often than Jehovah's Witnesses with some petition or other and a donation jar. Don't know how connected they still are to Nader today.
Posted by: VAMark   2004-09-29 9:29:01 PM  

#18  Fred, I am for a national ID card with respect to voting/driving/employment. The problem with local cards is that the absentee voter applications have made fraud a given. I want to see SSN's that vote in more than one location (state) face federal charges. They are making a mockery of voting - one of our most basic freedoms. I am willing to see the government issue Driver's licenses to those who can't pay the filing fee or can't pass the driver's test. I would stipulate that the bearer doesn't have driving privileges in the police database where appropriate.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-09-29 8:55:38 PM  

#17  Hey Rafael...if you're still reading Rantburg, send me an email and I'll get you some whiskey and a harmonica while we wait for Sheriff Fred to spring you from the slammer...
Posted by: Seafarious   2004-09-29 8:30:32 PM  

#16  "And what will they do with it, once they've got it?"

Oh, gosh, I dunno... hmmm, how about some new Federal agencies?

The Fairness Enforcement Administration will act to ensure that everything is absolutely fair for everybody, everywhere, in every way. No one will be allowed to have any more than anyone else, no matter what they do. All oppressed victims will be escorted to the head of the line ahead of their oppressors, and receive chits good for second helpings at every Free Lunch.

The Gender Equity Commission, although somewhat redundant with the above, will focus its zeal on gender equality in the workplace. Equal numbers of men and women will be placed in all jobs, at equal pay, regardless of qualification or job performance. The Federal government will assign all of us jobs, to avoid the discriminatory effects of the current free choice system; and all workers throughout the country will belong to one Federal union.

The Voting Rights Rectification Commission will ensure fair distribution of voting rights to all: no more of this "one person, one vote" crap. Designated victim groups will receive extra votes to compensate them for past discrimination and other wrongs.

The Slavery Reparations Administration will oversee the redistribution of illicit wealth (such as salaries, etc.) from the evil descendents of white slaveowners into the pocketbooks of those who really deserve it.

The Ministry of Truth, headed by Dan Rather, will...

You get the picture...

(Remember, though: all pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others.)
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-09-29 8:09:00 PM  

#15  Dave D: They will. Wait and see...and keep your barf bag handy at all times. The tip off was the pre-positioning of the legal teams. Remember, the Dems actually believe the last election was stolen from them - they now feel entitled to the same.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2004-09-29 7:53:16 PM  

#14  I think you've summed it up, Dave. And what will they do with it, once they've got it?

*shudder*

*anger*
Posted by: .com   2004-09-29 7:42:22 PM  

#13  "This will be very bloody before it's over."

Dear God, I hope not; but if it is, at least I'm armed. I think what disturbs me most is the growing feeling that the Left will do anything, absolutely ANYTHING, to get themselves in power.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-09-29 7:29:50 PM  

#12  After watching Brit Hume interview a political analyst, one thing is clear:
This election will be Florida 2000 x 20.

With Soros and other 527 funding, there have been MASSIVE voter registration drives in all of the battleground states. In New Mexico, which had a difference of less than 400 votes in 2000, the Dhimmicrats claim to have registered over 100,000 new "voters".

Additionally, there are "legal teams" in all of these contested states. No doubt fraud will run the gamut from subtle to brazen. What is new is the magnitude we can expect. LBJ would truly be farkin' jealous.

This will be very bloody before it's over.

Where I was once confident that the Forces of Darkness would be defeated - I have now decided that anything is possible.

The obvious idea that voters should be required to present simple photo-ID in order to vote (something I've always had to do, at least thus far, in my adult / voting life) brings on screams and howls of discrimination. WTF? There is only one valid conclusion to draw from this reaction: Fraud will be rampant.
Posted by: .com   2004-09-29 7:21:05 PM  

#11  


From : Babs

Fellow Democrats:

I am writing to call on you to get all of OUR voters, living and dead to the polls on election day...

Posted by: BigEd   2004-09-29 7:08:26 PM  

#10  ajackson - of course. Didn't you get the memo from Hollywood and the Clintons?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-09-29 7:02:49 PM  

#9  I was under the impression that fraud, including voter registration fraud was illegal - you know, as in fines, jail, etc. Is there some sort of special dispensation if the fraud is committed by left-wing groups?
Posted by: ajackson   2004-09-29 6:37:44 PM  

#8  Lemee see - MSM SPIN
Absent voter requests in Iowa...
Registration in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida all favoring Dems...

What is apparently happening is the following...
Registration Fraud in Michigan
Registration in Florida has more GOPs and lots of soldiers overseas vote...
Ohio registers a lot of Dems, but not many vote...
Iowa Dems front load absentees, GOP has them closer to election to be sure they are turned in correctly.
Pennsylvania is the same situation as Florida without quite so many military...

And Gay Marriage Amendments on the ballots of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio...

Makes sense to me...
Posted by: BigEd   2004-09-29 6:36:40 PM  

#7  I hope these townships keep careful account of exactly how much this is costing.

And, after conviction, the judge makes these PIRG wankers pay treble damages, in addition to a hefty fine and some jail time.

And they can't get the money from Soros.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-09-29 5:55:44 PM  

#6  Ouch! Seafarious that hurts. I promise to be good.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-09-29 5:41:54 PM  

#5  rafael has 184 sink trap posts. he in been purdy buzy today. :)
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-09-29 5:39:11 PM  

#4  hey! im want one of those troll things to! >:(
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-09-29 5:36:43 PM  

#3  Aaaaaarrrrrggggh! Rafael, I'm sorry! Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. The Boris button was too close to the comment button. Fred, can we fix this?
Posted by: Seafarious   2004-09-29 5:25:25 PM  

#2  It's that Micheal Moore asshole...

How about a system where they send you a voting card that you take with you to the voting booth? No card, no vote.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-09-29 5:06:51 PM  

#1  Officials believe the forms were turned in by the state advocacy group Public Interest Research Group In Michigan, Ingham County Clerk Mike Bryanton said.

Read as Liberal Democrat...
Posted by: BigEd   2004-09-29 5:00:43 PM  

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