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| US helicopter shot down, more detail on the fighting in Mosul |
| 2004-11-12 |
| A U.S. Army helicopter was shot down Friday north of Baghdad, and its three crew members were wounded, the U.S military said. The UH-60 Black Hawk was hit by anti-aircraft fire in Taji, 12 miles north of the capital, the military said. Three of the four crew members were injured in the attack, but are expected to recover, the U.S. military said. The crew was rescued and the helicopter was recovered. This was the third time a U.S. helicopter was shot down this week. On Thursday, two U.S. Marine helicopters were downed by rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire in separate incidents near Fallujah. The crews of the two-man Super Cobra helicopters were forced to make hard landings, the military said. One of the four pilots was slightly injured and other helicopters rescued the crew members from the area, the military said. |
| Posted by:Dan Darling |
| #8 what the MSM seems to be missing, and some others as well 1. AFAIK, the Iraqi Police are not trained to stand up to a large scale insurgent assault. Theyre police (and not the best) not soldiers. One hopes that over time as we revett and retrain the IP, they'll be able to reduce crime, and do stuff like look for weapons, IEDs, etc. But even when theyre up to standard I dont think theyre expected to fight conventional battles. And of course theyre not all up to snuff YET. 2. ING is better. I dont think its ONLY Kurdish units being called in, and if it is, they will still have to watch ROE. 3. A rising now in Mosul looks like a desperate move for the insurgency. While it would be a big blow IF they could take control of Mosul, that seems to be most unlikely, and they will lose many of the fighters they managed to smuggle out of Fallujah for a couple of days of headlines. When they could have gone to ground and kept on a steady low level campaign of IED's etc. Either A. They are running low on resources, and realize it or B. Theyre running out of time with the elections coming up and realize it, or C. Theyre not very smart - maybe they lost to many strategist types in Fallujah? |
| Posted by: Liberalhawk 2004-11-12 3:18:18 PM |
| #7 As I understand it ROE lets us abort the jihadis. Or something like that. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-11-12 3:13:39 PM |
| #6 basically, restrictions on all-out carnage |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-12 1:53:59 PM |
| #5 rules of engagement |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-12 1:53:18 PM |
| #4 Iraqi NG troops hold their ground...incompetent police chiefs get canned....good signs. |
| Posted by: Rex Mundi 2004-11-12 1:52:00 PM |
| #3 What's an ROE? |
| Posted by: Jules 187 2004-11-12 1:51:56 PM |
| #2 the Kurds don't need no steenking ROE |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-12 1:48:05 PM |
| #1 Aye, send in the Kurds! |
| Posted by: Chuck Simmins 2004-11-12 1:36:30 PM |