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Europe
Dutch Muslims Fear Backlash From Murder
2004-11-13
I've been waiting for the weep pieces to start coming out. The idea is that the original corpse or corpses are forgotten in the caterwauling about the injustice of it all...
The Muslim woman adjusted her head scarf and gazed wearily at her daughters' elementary school Friday, one of many Islamic sites attacked since a Muslim radical allegedly murdered a Dutch filmmaker who criticized Islam. An explosion earlier in the week not only shattered windows and doors — it damaged the Muslim community's faith in the tolerance of their neighbors.
Funny thing, that: having a prominent Dutchman slaughtered like an animal in the street by somebody named Mohammad had the same effect on the Dutchies...
One mother said the attack made her afraid.
Not half as afraid as van Gogh was there at the last...
"I always thought the Netherlands was the safest place in the whole world, but if you see all that's happening, I don't know anymore," said the woman, who didn't want to be quoted by name for fear of reprisals. "I didn't know what to tell my daughter. She asked me: `Mommy, why us? All we did was go to school.'"
Because Cousin Mohammad decided to slaughter infidels and declare holy war in your name? Could that be it? Think real hard, now...
In Amsterdam, meanwhile, Queen Beatrix made her first public appearance since the slaying of Theo van Gogh and sought to assuage Muslims' anxieties by reaching out to Islamic youths. One woman who met the monarch, 26-year-old Naziha Daoudi, said she had not felt safe on the streets since the Nov. 2 killing. "We have to watch a lot of Dutch people watching us like we're criminals," said Daoudi, who works at the Argan Moroccan youth center. "The Dutch community doesn't know much about Islam. They think (Muslims) are all the same."
I'd venture to say they think some are homicidal maniacs. The problem is that they don't have "krazed killer" tatooed on their foreheads. All they have is the occasional turban...
The arrest of Muslim militant Mohammed Bouyeri, 26, as the main suspect in the killing has been followed by what seems to be a cycle of retaliation between Christian and Muslim extremists. A half-dozen arson attacks on Muslim buildings were answered by fire bombings that caused minor damage at churches in Rotterdam, Utrecht and Amersfoort. After Monday's pre-dawn attack on the Islamic school in this sprawling southern industrial city of 200,000 people, another Muslim school was gutted by fire in the town of Uden. On Wednesday, Dutch youths brawled with Turks and Moroccans in the first direct ethnic confrontation since Van Gogh's murder. For Muslims, the conservative government's reaction to the slaying has been almost as disturbing as the violence: Officials have moved swiftly to tighten controls on the nation's Islamic minority. On Friday, parliament asked the government to draft legislation that would compel Dutch mosques to employ only imams who have studied Islam in the Netherlands. Legislators are also considering laws that would enable the closure of mosques that spread non-Dutch values.
Yeah. You can't get much more disturbing than that if you own a turban, can you?
Don't they have a good sedition law they can use for just such occasions?
Posted by:Fred

#24  Cause meets effect. How come they keep thinking they can turn on the meat grinder, without eventually getting personal with it? Oops - forgot the laws of physics and f*ups do not apply to Allen's ... yeah, sure.
Posted by: Beau   2004-11-13 11:43:56 PM  

#23  This is the strength of America - correct for new information and move on (pardon the expression).
Posted by: VAMark   2004-11-13 9:27:10 PM  

#22  Master's for Blue State, Bachelor's for Red State.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-13 9:12:06 PM  

#21  OK, citizenship for anyone with a hard science master's and solid work experience.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-13 8:30:24 PM  

#20  Nope. Never allowed to finish, and gave up on it. Went to the Swiss Supreme Court, won a Pyrrhic victory against the school and professors. That was 10 years ago.

I figured I valued more what I had studied and created (for my consequent business) than an academic piece of paper. Never desired to teach in academia again.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-13 8:01:26 PM  

#19  Good for you,
have you finished it outside Europe ?
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-11-13 7:54:28 PM  

#18  computer science
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-13 7:52:01 PM  

#17  Kalle,
What was your PhD in ?
Posted by: Elder of Zion   2004-11-13 7:40:12 PM  

#16  lex, most Europeans with PhD are throughly indoctrinated in socialism and anti-Americanism.

I was unable to finish my PhD when the professors discovered that I was anti-communist.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-13 7:30:44 PM  

#15  Giving final notice is not wasting breath. If by the end of next year nothing has radically changed in Moslem communities across the world (such as helping us find and kill the Islamofascists), they'll wish 9/11 had never happened.

Serving such notice is the least we can do, as decent human beings.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-13 7:28:03 PM  

#14  We should do everything in our power to encourage mass emigration by Europe's well-educated strivers. Immediate US citizenship for any European citizen with a hard science PhD who passes a security clearance.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-13 7:24:51 PM  

#13  Bar, Kalle: You guys are wasting your breath. This is part of their operations. Commit atrocities against the infidel, then cower preemptively to take advantage of their humanity weakness.
Posted by: BH   2004-11-13 5:46:23 PM  

#12  Somebody's got to cover my social security checks and it sure won't be Mexicans.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-13 5:08:54 PM  

#11  An intra-European jihad with violence spreading across borders => a new wave of decent, hardworking, normal, tolerant Europeans appalled by their societies' failure and emigrating to a truly tolerant and pluralist, peaceful society, the USA. Seen it dozens of times before. Good for us, catastrophic for Europe.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-13 5:00:53 PM  

#10  Time will tell what the reaction amongst the Netherlands' 4.5% Muslim minority will be. My guess is there are a fair few planning to avenge this destruction of property, murderously if possible. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Islamic hotheads decide to raise the stakes still further, especially if mosque and school burnings continue at a trickle. Nor would I be surprised if foreign Muslims rushed to join the fight from, say, France and Belgium. An intra-European jihad with violence spreading across borders. Interesting times ahead.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-11-13 4:50:20 PM  

#9  After Monday's pre-dawn attack on the Islamic school in this sprawling southern industrial city of 200,000 people, another Muslim school was gutted by fire in the town of Uden.

Ya know? The Dutch just may be on to something here. Burn down several Islamic institutions for every Dutch non-Moslem killed. Kill enough non-Islamic Dutch citizens and, wallah!, no more mosques or Islamic "schools" to spread jihadism. Sort of makes the whole issue into a self-correcting problem, doesn't it?

I can only wonder if Islam as a whole will ever catch on about how this is what awaits their refusal to abandon violent jihad. If each life taken by terrorists resulted in a mosque being demolished, I'd wager moderate Muslims might become a wee bit more vocal about the slaughter of innocents by their radical brethern. Should they fail to make any hue or cry about the constant killing, they would just as quickly no longer have any places from which to launch their propaganda and attacks.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-11-13 4:32:06 PM  

#8  lessons need to be delivered to the hate-mongers preaching from the Moskkks - without them it's just an empty building. Set an evil turban or two on fire and see if that learns em
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-13 3:18:44 PM  

#7  The Muslims, it appears view Cause and Effect on opposite sides of a deep and wide canyon. If they do not get the connection soon, their act will be cleaned up for them, in a very ugly fashion. Ah, the joys of multiculturalism. Nice experiment, doesn't work.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-11-13 3:09:40 PM  

#6  911. 311. Beslam, etc., etc., etc. Excuse me but you have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about what happens to the Muslims in Holland. The Muslims have been making their bed in this world--they will have to lay in it or go on to the next.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen   2004-11-13 3:08:31 PM  

#5  Don't just speak up. DENOUNCE the murderous Islamofascists hiding in your mosques. If you help us defeat them, we may put some trust in your words.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-13 2:55:21 PM  

#4  "The Dutch community doesn't know much about Islam. They think (Muslims) are all the same."

Then SPEAK UP against these barbaric acts, you idiot. Get everybody that agrees together, and prove that you don't support extremism. Otherwise, your silence will be interpreted as having sympathies with the killers. This is not the Middle East; this is T-H-E W-E-S-T, and this is how things work here. You basically have freedom of speech, so USE IT.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-11-13 2:03:57 PM  

#3  What is it with Royals? Have they started thinking they are there for the downtrodden? How do they think they got their jobs?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-13 1:44:54 PM  

#2  Churches are also set on fire, it's the beginning of a conflict that will get a lot worse....
Posted by: Dutchgeek   2004-11-13 1:21:42 PM  

#1  Dutch Muslims Fear Backlash From Murder -- a fine lesson in "actions and attitudes have consequences".
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-13 12:20:17 PM  

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