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| China 'sorry' over mystery sub | ||
| 2004-11-16 | ||
| China has apologised for what it called an accidental incursion by one of its submarines into Japanese waters last week, Tokyo has said. Japan's Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura said China had expressed regret for the incident, which sparked Japan's first naval alert since 1999. Japan lodged a protest last Friday after saying the sub, which entered waters off Okinawa, was Chinese. Beijing has not yet publicly confirmed its reported apology. Japanese officials said they had been told that the Chinese submarine entered Japanese territorial waters by mistake. Japan's top government spokesman, Hiroyuki Hosoda, said that Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister, Wu Dawei, told the Japanese ambassador to China on Tuesday morning that the sub was on routine manoeuvres, and that Beijing regretted the incident. "We consider this to be an apology," Mr Hosoda told a news conference. Japanese Foreign Minister Mr Machimura said the sub had made the incursion due to a "technical error". "The Chinese side said there is no change in its stance that it intends to build partnership with neighbour Japan," Mr Machimura added.
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| Posted by:Steve |
| #9 JAPAN TIMES - the Chinese sub may be the same one that was detected off the US island of GUAM and chased/followed by USN P-3C patrol planes. Guam, the CNMI and Micronesia in general are militarily strategic for the USA as these islands cover any military offense or defense to and from the Philippines and East Asia, as well as the strategic approaches to the western USA, Hawaii State, and NORAM from Asia. The Chicoms know this as they have declared Guam, the CNMI, and Micronesia to be not only their "SECOND-TIER/LAYER OF DEFENSE AND CONFRONTATION", and "ISLANDS/TURTLES OF WAR" to confront, counter and defend China from the USA and USAF/USN Carriers, but also have declared the same to be within their "Sphere/Circle of Influence or Control" - Chinese Communist and Beijing-ese lingo for future Chinese territory(s). Control of Guam, et al. also potentially allows the USA to extend Global Missle Defense and SPAWAR/SATWAR reach over AT LEAST 3/4's of the Pacific Ocean and then some. Like for Yamamoto and the Imperial Japanese Navy during WW2, the capture of American Guam, etal, will likely also be a highly important priority for the PLA Army-Navy-AirForces-Second Artillery should any shooting war break out between the USA and China o'er North Korea andor Taiwan. China cannot achieve her desires of East Asian hegemony as long as anti-Chinese Asian democracies, espec JAPAN, let alone the USA, are there to successfully compete econ and militarily against her. China's Communists are like Russia in that they both believe that if nothing is done to stop the USA now, in the future the USA and internal pressures /demands for Western-style DemCapitalism will be too strong for any nation, group of nations, or International-Global Leftism-Socialism-Communism to milpol successfully resist! ERGO 9-11, Bill Clinton's anti-USA "Big BOY" speech, and world Islamists, Communists, Socialists, and Fascists sleeping together in the love bed of anti-Americanism and OWG. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2004-11-16 11:04:08 PM |
| #8 AYMMETRIC WARFARE applies to air and naval combat, not just land-based insurgencies. I believe that that the next naval war invol major world powers, espec iff the USA vs China in East Asia over NorKor and Taiwan, will be mostly UNDERWATER,in addition to rapid airborne-based conventional strikes and milog, includ use of NUCLEAR. mostly TAC ARTY as SELF-DEFENSE of area conquered via "SEARCH/TAKE-AND-HOLD" tactics, submarines can be used for both delivery of sizable commando/sapper forces, PRE-INVASION/[ABN]FIRST STRIKE as well as POST-INVASION/FOLLOW-ON milog resupply -read, hide from US Carrier Groups. The Russkis a while back wanted to convert and dev TYPHOON-style hulls for use as UW Transports of valuable commodities, espec for use in [under]the ARTIC, in both the Pacific and Atlantic. They also dev LR HIGH-CAPACITY SEAPLANES and other high-speed "NICHE'" assets, ostensibly for alleged "COMMERCIAL" PURPOSES, i.e. DUAL/MULTI-USE includ Military. |
| Posted by: JosephMendiola 2004-11-16 8:37:29 PM |
| #7 SINK the next one...the Chi-coms will putup or shutup after that! |
| Posted by: smn 2004-11-16 6:57:15 PM |
| #6 Thanks. strange, no? - two hostile sub sitings so close together. Don't know if it means anything. |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-11-16 10:26:03 AM |
| #5 They are certainly going to be sorry. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2004-11-16 10:14:57 AM |
| #4 Iran has Kilos |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-16 9:54:50 AM |
| #3 Chinese: likely, range limited Iranians? - nope |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-16 9:51:41 AM |
| #2 I know this shows my ignorance, but I'm curious and have little pride, so I'll ask it anyway. Considering all of this talk from our law enforcement re: Al Qaedea's planning to use and having nukes and this sudden upsurge in subs intruding on the territorial waters of Japan, Israel and ...somewhere else - forget where... do the Iranians or Chineses have the capability to launch nukes from their subs? |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-11-16 9:47:16 AM |
| #1 sooo...was the general direction he fled towards Israel? |
| Posted by: 2b 2004-11-16 9:32:27 AM |