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Iraq-Jordan
U.N. Official Bitches About Fallujah Killings
2004-11-17
The United Nations top human rights official on Tuesday denounced the killing of civilians and injured people in Fallujah, saying violators of international humanitarian law must be brought to justice. Louise Arbour, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, spoke in general terms and did not specifically mention insurgents' attacks against hostages or a U.S. military report that it is investigating the videotaped fatal shooting of a wounded man by a U.S. Marine in a mosque in Fallujah. "There have been a number of reports during the current confrontation alleging violations of the rules of war designed to protect civilians and combatants," Arbour said in a statement. "All violations of international humanitarian law and human rights law must be investigated and those responsible for breaches — including the deliberate targeting of civilians, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks, the killing of injured persons and the use of human shields — must be brought to justice, be they members of the multinational force or insurgents," Arbour said.
Does that mean she's going to send the UN cops in to arrest the Bad Guyz? Didn't think so.
I suspect she has two standards for what is an "indiscriminate and disproportionate" attack. We're supposed to be able to control ourselves, something she doesn't ask the Moose-limbs to do ...
She also complained of she said was a lack of independent access to civilians trapped in Fallujah during the U.S.-led assault and an absence of information on the number of civilians casualties. A relief convoy of ambulances and supplies was unable to enter Fallujah because of fighting in the city Monday, Red Crescent officials said.
They shoulda stopped when the RC showed up, right? (Where do they get these people?)
Posted by:Fred

#23  Why won't this asshat come and serve some justice then? See how that goes over
Posted by: smokeysinse   2004-11-17 8:06:45 PM  

#22  Indeed. Just google "Dallaire Fax"...
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-11-17 7:29:35 PM  

#21  Anan's guilt with regard to Rwanda goes way beyond not demanding action. jAs the UN official responsible, he deliberately ignored desperate reports of genocide and requests for help until it was conveniently too late to impact the outcome.

IMO that was criminal. He has gallons of blood on his hands for his actions as a UN official before becoming SecGen.
Posted by: too true   2004-11-17 7:25:47 PM  

#20  The short answer,MS.Damn straight.Would you have supported miltary action to stop genocide?
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-17 6:34:04 PM  

#19  ...Louise Arbour, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights...

How about making yourself *useful*, Louise? I could use a cold one about now.
Posted by: Crusader   2004-11-17 4:25:36 PM  

#18  It's called leadership. Kofi's got none. W's got a ton.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-17 3:48:16 PM  

#17  Mike S, Jules hits the nail on the head. Kofi should have had the stones to stand up before the GA and demand action from the member states. He should have been in front of the media generating additional pressure. The fact is that he did next to nothing an a million people died. Then, to demonstrate how functional and effective the UN is, he get PROMOTED to Sec Gen. Are you kidding me?? And all you can do with respect to the UN in every one of your posts relating to the topic is apologize for them. Wake up. Kofi had his thumb up his ass and lots of people died. He is doing the same shit now. He is a stain.
Posted by: Remoteman   2004-11-17 3:43:04 PM  

#16  As a two-step plan, Mike, yes:
1) We say yes and contribute troops
2) France, Germany, Brazil, Chile, Russia, Poland, Japan, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Netherlands, UK, Australia, India, all our "allies"...say yes and contribute a proportionately equal number of troops.
Step 2 is where the real problem emerges, isn't it?
Posted by: Jules 187   2004-11-17 2:53:18 PM  

#15  
If Kofi Annan had demanded military intervention, would you personally have supported it?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-17 2:45:15 PM  

#14  What is wrong with you MS,it doesn't take a flash of insight for Kofi to stand-up in the General Assmebly and demand military intervevtion to stop genocide.Isn't that what he is supposed to do,I would think that should be part of the job discription.The U.N.in general and Kofi in particular are directly responsable for the genocide in Rawanda,Dafur,former Yugo republic(don't even try the ehnic cleansing is not genocide crap,won't wash)and you,Mike,plus people like you bare a good deal of responability too.It is people like you that permit,excuse and ignore genocide that allows Kofi&Co.to get away with it.You got any complaints take it up with Kofi,I'm sure he will get right on it.
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-17 1:20:56 PM  

#13  Nice debunk of this pseudo-scandal here (hat tip: LGF):

http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/
Posted by: lex   2004-11-17 12:54:17 PM  

#12  The U.N.'s main function these days is to DENOUNCE the United States! Now that the Democratic Party has taken over that role I believe the U.N. is redundant...and should be asked to leave!
Posted by: Justrand   2004-11-17 12:51:35 PM  

#11  
Re #8 (Remoteman)
In other words, you don't have any arguments for an indictment, and you don't have any ideas about what the UN should have done differently.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-17 11:46:46 AM  

#10  Advice taken Mrs D.
Posted by: Remoteman   2004-11-17 11:38:04 AM  

#9  Remote man,

Your's is not to reason why, your's is but to ignore.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-17 11:34:16 AM  

#8  Mike, I don't understand why you are such a Kofi apologist. Rwanda was in Kofi's area of responsibility when the genocide occurred. It did not occur out of thin air. He did nothing to head it off or warn, loudly and insistently, that it could take place. He is playing the same role again with Darfur. You may say that the Sec Gen has no power and is only a figurehead, but in my mind that is a cop out. This individual does not seem to have the capability to convince anyone of anything other than Israel and America are bad. That means that he is ineffective.
Posted by: Remoteman   2004-11-17 11:30:24 AM  

#7  Hand wringing and skimming off the top -- that's about all the U.N. ever does besides accumulating parking tickets.
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-17 10:52:25 AM  

#6  Maybe Kofi Annan and the UN should be brought to justice for their complacency in Iraqi repression for their own profits.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2004-11-17 10:35:29 AM  

#5  
Re #1 (Alaska Paul) maybe Kofi Annan and the UN should be brought to justice for the Rwanda genocide.

What are your main arguments for this proposal?

What do you think that the UN should have done differently about the Rwanda genocide?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-11-17 8:25:59 AM  

#4  I am again inviting Kofi Annan and the UN to leave my country. Louise Arbour may travel to Iraq. We will not impair any investigation she might desire to make. We will not protect her however. I give her about an hour unkidnapped.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-11-17 1:38:27 AM  

#3  The current UN personages of Louise Arbour and Kofi Annan will go down in the anals of UN history as the most ineffective and worthless representatives of the plights; of even their own country's well being. Annan has accomplished less for Africa than even Idi Amin!
Posted by: smn   2004-11-17 1:05:25 AM  

#2   In other news....We are still awaiting any type of response from the UN on the thousands of murder in Dafur.

P.S. Note to military. Get your head out of your ass and stop embedding journalist!
Posted by: 98zulu   2004-11-17 12:43:01 AM  

#1  We did stop before and let the Red Crescent terrorist ammo resupply vehicles ambulances come through. Didn't work. Now we learned and we did not let them through this time.

On the violations of human rights, maybe Kofi Annan and the UN should be brought to justice for the Rwanda genocide. Or is that forbidden to be discussed?
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-11-17 12:26:29 AM  

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