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| WWFox Smackdown: Brit Hume Slams Juan Williams (Long long overdue) |
| 2004-11-23 |
| Posted by:.com |
| #18 Remember all the dissenters in the Clinton cabinet? Well, there was George Tenet (CIA), who President Clinton merely ignored, and Louis Freeh (FBI), who Clinton absolutely refused to deal with. But that was sooo long ago... (/mild sarcasm) |
| Posted by: Pappy 2004-11-23 8:44:50 PM |
| #17 yo--thomas sowell--darker and smarter |
| Posted by: django 2004-11-23 4:45:03 PM |
| #16 credibility--pimf |
| Posted by: SON OF TOLUI 2004-11-23 4:27:07 PM |
| #15 but juan gives fox racial balance and credibity--kinda makes it "look like america'--i wish they had on thomas sowell |
| Posted by: SON OF TOLUI 2004-11-23 4:26:15 PM |
| #14 I ALWAYS watch Hume's show, Special Report, as it is, without a doubt, the best news show on TV. He is definitely the anti-Rather/Jennings/Brokow. I really like the roundtables he does. Juan just follows the latest meme from NYT and parrots it. Tony Snow does the best job of making Juan look foolish, but you have to watch FOX on Saturday mid-day to see him anymore. |
| Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian 2004-11-23 4:25:28 PM |
| #13 Juan Williams is the FOXNews village idiot. Nothing more. Put yourself in Brit Hume's place. Just when you think Juan can't possibly utter anything stupider than his most recent utterance, he manages to do it. I'd laugh too... |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2004-11-23 4:01:02 PM |
| #12 James Mann in "Rise of the Vulcans" had it right: Powell's greatest talent is explaining/justifying the military to the politicos and vice-versa. Very valuable, of course, and a great way to ascend the Washington ladder-- especially when there's great bitterness between the two camps, as there was post-Vietnam and post-Beirut-- but his time has passed. We need a SecState who will go all out to defend and advance the president's policies. Powell was next to useless at this-- in fact he's probably the most feckless Sec State since Warren Christopher. Condi can only be more effective than Powell. |
| Posted by: lex 2004-11-23 10:56:22 AM |
| #11 ;-)~ |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-23 10:44:37 AM |
| #10 yeah, Vince Foster and Ron Brown |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-23 10:44:05 AM |
| #9 Remember all the dissenters in the Clinton cabinet? There was . . . uh, Whatsisname, and then that other one . . . no, wait, it'll come to me . . . dangit! I can see his face, I swear, but I can't think of his name . . . oh, you know who I mean! . . . don't you? |
| Posted by: Mike 2004-11-23 10:40:00 AM |
| #8 "I am not sure that public disagreement is a trait that a politician wants from cabinet." -Exactly Sarge. There have been many times behind closed doors I've disagreed w/my senior leaders, however, once their decision is made you actively support it in front of the troops. It's called loyalty not lockstep "yes man-ism." I'm sure Rice will do the same. Openly criticising your boss shows lack of intestinal fortitude. I'm sure Bush listens to all of them intently, doesn't mean he has to go with their suggestions. |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2004-11-23 10:34:06 AM |
| #7 What I don't get[*] is why the MSM is having a collective pants-wetting over the loss of Powell's supposed "independence". We don't elect the Secretary of State to formulate his own foreign policy; we elect the President to formulate policy, and SecState is appointed to carry it out. "Independence", then, is not a good thing. [*] I lie. I do get it. The MSM doesn't like Bush's foreign policy, and figure any deviation from it can only be for the better. But they could at least say that, and stop pretending that Cabinet members are supposed to be Presidents of their own domains. "We must have dissent! Dissent is a good unto itself! Dissent is holy!" Sheesh. |
| Posted by: Angie Schultz 2004-11-23 10:32:01 AM |
| #6 ":Colin Powell, the ultimate insider/player/courtier." Truer words have never been spoken. I read his autobigraphy and he freely admits being part of the system and working it from the inside. He is a great American and a hero in every way, but he also the ultimate insider. He served both Republicans and Democrats without skipping a beat. Nothing wrong with it, in fact it speaks volumes on his ability to serve the Country regardless of who occupies the White House. If you think Secretary Powell spent meetings arguing with members of the Clinton and Bush Cabinets, then you don't understand politics. Condi has worked outside the beltway and may have a slanted view towards conservatives but is that a bad thing? The only argument I have heard from the left is that she is in "lockstep" with her boss. I am not sure that public disagreement is a trait that a politician wants from cabinet. |
| Posted by: Cyber Sarge 2004-11-23 10:27:57 AM |
| #5 Condi's a foreign policy expert. Why then is Powell viewed as the expert and Condi the courtier? Because the left can't comprehend that Condi has a bigger pair than Powell. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-11-23 10:18:42 AM |
| #4 If anyone's a Washington courtier, it's Colin Powell. His whole career has been about making his superiors feel good. He has no real expertise in anything except how to fight old-fashioned wars with "overwhelming force", ie the kind of war that's utterly irrelevant to our current situation. Condi's a foreign policy expert. Why then is Powell viewed as the expert and Condi the courtier? |
| Posted by: lex 2004-11-23 9:49:17 AM |
| #3 They are both biased toward their side of the house. I like both of these guys though I tend to agree w/Hume more often. I saw him figuratively pimp slap Juan about two months ago on his Fox Show, can't recall exactly what it was over, but it was beautiful. |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2004-11-23 9:28:16 AM |
| #2 The problem's not that Young Juan's become so excitable, it's that he's simply parroting the idiotic MSM Meme du Jour: "Bush Crushes Dissent." Hume simply called him on his butt-sucking. And Kristol pointed out the absurdity of arguing that Condi's less independent, less informed, less talented and expert in foreign affairs than Colin Powell, the ultimate insider/player/courtier. |
| Posted by: lex 2004-11-23 8:00:17 AM |
| #1 Juan Williams has become hysterically emotional lately, which leads to a real (and deserved) lack of respect from Hume. When Juan makes Mara Liason look like the voice of sweet moderate reason, he needs a sabbatical |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-23 7:25:44 AM |