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France's Sarkozy: discriminate in favor of Islam
2004-11-24
Dhimmitude Embraced - so that's how Sarkosy will replace Chiraq
During the recent US presidential campaign, French media, reflecting public opinion, expressed total support for John Kerry and complete rejection of George W. Bush. A man who constantly mixed religion and politics was alien to France's republican and secular culture, they implied. Yet, in a classic French paradox, the book that is the talk of France today - Nicolas Sarkozy's La République, les religions, l'espérance (The Republic, religions, hope) - appears to be a challenge to France's secular tradition. The book takes the form of a dialogue between Sarkozy and two young intellectuals, one a philosopher and the other a theologian. In it, the finance minister, who will step down shortly to take on the leadership of the governing UMP party, again demonstrates his uncanny ability to attract media attention. The book puts Sarkozy himself in an unexpected light and is likely to surprise, if not unsettle friends and foes alike.

Why is a man who appears to be the ultimate incarnation of a pure politician - a 21st-century combination of his rival Jacques Chirac's activism and energy and Valéry Giscard d'Estaing's constant effort to incarnate modernity - reflecting on the role of religion in society and the place of God in modern life, including his own? The answer may lie more in politics than in the shallow spiritual content of the book. Sarkozy may fail in his attempt to become France's next president, but he is already introducing a strain of modernity into the rarefied atmosphere of French politics. In the book, Mr Chirac's main rival on the right again demonstrates a talent to ask relevant questions in a challenging manner.

He starts with a quotation from Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracy in America, emphasising the need for the republican democratic model to have the support of religion: "Despotism can live without faith, but freedom cannot." For Sarkozy, "religious freedom is the freedom to hope". Spirituality is called upon to rescue the values of the Republic. Values are threatened by the failure of the institutions of the state to instil them. This failure is epitomised by France's inability to integrate 5m Muslims. This leads to a sense of exclusion and humiliation, and in turn provokes intolerance, if not violence. The old tools of successful integration - the conscript army, the school system and the churches - are no longer able to fulfil that role. The army is professional, teachers are demoralised and congregations are dwindling.
Posted by:anon

#7  lex has got it exactly right.

France is the closest to a corporatist-fascist state in Western Europe. It's not going to change anytime soon, because all of their leaders --both in politics and business-- are the product of their National State Schools, where they learn to value and protect that system.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-11-25 12:02:43 AM  

#6  Paging Sabine...
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-11-24 8:19:18 PM  

#5  What Lex says.

Posted by: Wuzzalib   2004-11-24 8:09:29 PM  

#4  The French are so doomed. Couldn't happen to a nice bunch of backstabbers, though.
Posted by: Secret Master   2004-11-24 12:55:08 PM  

#3  Let the state help them build decent places of prayer and pay for the training of religious teachers who speak French and would become spokesmen for a tolerant and open Islam

Right problem, wrong solution. This is essentially a corporatist approach of the sort applied by Mussolini and Hitler: the state divides society into different blocs or groups and then co-opts each one by infiltrating their leadership and setting limits on appropriate activity.

The Euros simply cannot get it through their heads that the key to solving this problem is economic liberalization. Give real opportunities to people who want to launch small businesses, small banks, create real economic engines of prosperity. Encourage entrepreneurial strivers. Deport resenters. And respect religious minoritiesenough to get the f*** out of their internal religious affairs.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-24 10:56:29 AM  

#2  Yada, yada, yada, yada.
Posted by: Anonymous6236   2004-11-24 10:19:02 AM  

#1  Yada, yada, yada, yada.
Posted by: Anonymous6236   2004-11-24 10:18:56 AM  

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