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Iraq-Jordan
Iraq, neighbors argue over U.S. troop withdrawal
2004-12-01
Rantburg Diplomacy Desk followup to the Prince Nayef article:
Angry disagreements surfaced on Wednesday at a meeting of interior ministers from Iraq and its neighbors over the timing of the withdrawal of U.S.-led troops from Iraq, diplomats said. The diplomats said some countries, including meeting hosts Iran, were pushing for a joint statement with an article calling for the complete withdrawal of U.S.-led troops shortly after Iraq's planned Jan. 30 national elections.
"You want us to leave? Sure, no problem. Which way is Tehran again?"
Members of Iraq's interim government disagree with the inclusion of a U.S.-led troop withdrawal deadline. "The Iraqis believe it's up to them to decide about it," one of the diplomats said.

Diplomats said the issue provoked some angry exchanges between officials at the two-day Tehran meeting which had been due to conclude earlier on Wednesday. "Some of them were shouting at each other. It's hard to be optimistic (about an agreement)," one said.

The Tehran meeting had already exposed Baghdad's growing frustration with some of its neighbors, accusing them of not doing enough to halt the flow of illegal arms, people and money connected to violence in Iraq. "A lot of people come illegally to Iraq," Naqib told Reuters on Wednesday on the sidelines of the ministerial gathering. "There are so many goods smuggled into Iraq -- weapons, money. That is the major issue right now for us. They (Iraq's neighbors) should make some efforts to control their borders," he said. Neighbors also needed to arrest "terrorists which are working in some neighboring countries and exchange some information about their activities," he said.

The Tehran meeting involving Iraq, its neighbors, Egypt and the United Nations was seen as a chance to improve security cooperation and encourage tighter border controls. But while Iraq's neighbors, such as Iran, acknowledge some difficulties policing their frontiers with Iraq, none accept any responsibility for the violence taking place there.
"Responsibility? For this mess? Us? Pshaw! And piffle."
Iranian Interior Minister Abdolvahed Mousavi-Lari, for example, turned the tables on Iraq, arguing that its western neighbor must do more to prevent the violence spilling over into Iran. "Smugglers have smuggled much weaponry over the insecure borders of Iraq to Iran and continue to do so and this creates problems for us," he told reporters.

Diplomats said Iran, a long-time foe of the United States which broke ties with Tehran in 1980, also wanted the joint declaration to "condemn the occupation of Iraq by U.S.-led forces and the massacre of civilians."
Gah.
Posted by:Seafarious

#15  Hmmmm - why wasn't Gen Sanchez invited to Tehran for his opinion ;-)
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-01 10:27:19 PM  

#14  Parabellum---#3 comment. That is one impressive map and list of bases! I especially like Forward Operating Base Muleskinner.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-12-01 9:52:53 PM  

#13  Conanista,

I foresaw you saying that! LOL!
Posted by: Darth VAda   2004-12-01 9:30:01 PM  

#12  Bomb-a-rama, it's meddling, so...?
Those who meddle will be meddled unto them.
Posted by: Conanista   2004-12-01 9:20:13 PM  

#11  The diplomats said some countries, including meeting hosts Iran, were pushing for a joint statement with an article calling for the complete withdrawal of U.S.-led troops shortly after Iraq's planned Jan. 30 national elections.

WTF??????

Since when do non-Iraqis have a say in what happens in Iraq? Sounds a lot like meddling to me.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-01 9:05:07 PM  

#10  Distance covered by the 3rd ID and the 1 MEF on their drive to Baghdad = 350 miles

Baghdad- Tehran = 441 miles
Baghdad- Damascus = 464 miles
Baghdad- Riyadh = 609 miles
Posted by: Matt   2004-12-01 8:59:46 PM  

#9  "Smugglers have smuggled much weaponry over the insecure borders of Iraq to Iran and continue to do so and this creates problems for us,"

Add Iranian complaints about anti-mullah groups getting funded, and it's either a growing paranoia or something is finally going on.
Posted by: Pappy   2004-12-01 8:59:30 PM  

#8  Iran, a long-time foe of the United States which broke ties with Tehran in 1980

Wouldn't hurt for the damned wire service to explain why it happened!
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-12-01 8:23:17 PM  

#7  Have a smaller meeting, with just Syria, Iran, and the Saudis.

"The allies are leaving Iraq. Which direction: Northeast, Northwest, or southwest?"

Let them choose one.
Posted by: jackal   2004-12-01 8:11:45 PM  

#6  You don't think he really meant that Iran would not be allowed to get nukes?
Posted by: Carlos   2004-12-01 5:57:28 PM  

#5  keep Iran on guard? I expect the MM to be scrambling for survival. W said "no nukes", asshats
Posted by: Frank G   2004-12-01 5:48:36 PM  

#4  There's some kind of plot brewing within Iran and they're waiting for us to leave. Iraqi needs to be strong enough to keep Iran on guard.
Posted by: Ulemble Ulains4684   2004-12-01 5:17:21 PM  

#3  We're not going anywhere anytime soon.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq.htm
Posted by: Parabellum   2004-12-01 5:16:38 PM  

#2  Heh, heh... Meanwhile, we're increasing our troops strength in Iraq from 138,000 to 150,000 over the next few weeks.

I can't blame them for wanting us out of there; it must be driving them crazy.
Posted by: Dave D.   2004-12-01 4:50:12 PM  

#1  "OK, guys, we're all agreed that the Marines have to get out of here. You tell 'em, Mahmoud."
Posted by: Matt   2004-12-01 4:31:03 PM  

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