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International-UN-NGOs
Japan calls for major UN shake-up
2004-12-02
Japan has urged that the veto powers given to the US, Britain, France, China and Russia be reconsidered. Foreign Ministry spokesman Hatsuhisa Takashima said on Wednesday that all permanent members of the UN Security Council should be treated the same as other members. "Japan considers it unfavourable to have permanent Security Council members that have veto power and those that don't have it," Takashima said. But the spokesman added that Japan would bow to the majority within the UN "if we get a seat and a veto as well if it is the consensus of the international community". A high-level panel on reforming the UN appointed by Secretary-General Kofi Annan has proposed two models for reform, including one that would add six new permanent members to the council but without the power of veto. Japan, along with Germany, has long sought a permanent seat on the Security Council. Annan wants a decision on reform next year. Any change to the council membership needs approval from two-thirds of the 191-member General Assembly and must avoid a veto by any of the council's current permanent members.
Posted by:Fred

#18  Fred, I think it may be time to ban the gentleman from Guam. His rant is so visually disturbing that I can't even read it to find out whether it makes any sense.
Posted by: trailing wife   2004-12-03 12:35:52 AM  

#17  Bill Clinton's ideal of GLOBAL INTEGRATED CONFEDERATION is just feel-good, PC hyper for OWG and GLOBAL COMMUNISM, and his "America is no longer the Big Boy on the block" just hyper for the UNION OF SOVIETIZED STTAES OF AMEMRIKA (USSA, as governed and ruled by the Revolutionary Central Committee of the Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA). ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, LAWFULLY OR UNLAWFULLY, PC OR MERITORIOUSLY, the Failed Left wants hyperpower America to wage [limited][multi-regional]war(s) around the world and to be warred against, for America to attack and be attacked - no matter the consequences or how many Americans or world citizens die, its REGULATION, BIG GOVERNMENT, OWG and SOCIALISM-COMMUNISM! ONLY IN AMERICA CAN *** WORK = AMERICA IS A ROGUE ITSELF THAT MUST [INEVITABLY] BE DESTROYED = AMERICA MUST DO NOTHING SAVE ABSORB/TOLERATE CASUALTIES AND DEPEND ON THE UNO FOR EVERYTHING, EVEN ITS OWN NATIONAL SECURITY, ....................@! Lefty EQUALISM = being WEAK/MINOR = BEING STRONG = DEPENDING ON THE MIGHTY UNO = SAVING RUSSIA-CHINA! Lefty Equalism > UPWARD EVOLUTION OF GOVERNANCE = DOWNWARD REGRESSION/DEVOLUTION OF THE MASSES AND THE RIGHTS OF THE MASSES >ergo = UTOPIANISM. The Failed Left wants Global Integration, Global Socialism-Communism, Global Unitary/Centralized Government, and Global Regulation, etc., AT ANY PRICE, EVEN IFF IT MEANS DESTROYING THE WORLD [Y2020+]! The Cold War objectives haven't changed for the Left and Commies - the WOT > KIND OF GLOBAL EMPIRE AND WHAT -ISMS WILL DICTATE THE COMING OWG - the post WW2 and Cold War UNO, as we and our parents knew it, and any contemporary "improvement" thereupon, is only a tertiary or secondary priority to the Failed Left. ITS STILL WEST VS EAST, NATO VS. COMMUNIST BLOC, WASHINGTON AND AMERICA versus MOSCOW-BEIJING, i.e. WHOM WILL DOMINATE AND RULE OWG - PRAY GOD IT'LL BE NON-CLINTONIZED AMERICA! Radical Islam aside, nations like anti-US FRANCE are being absolutely foolish and delusional if they believe Russia-China will let FRANCO-PHOBIA and STATE/REGION-SPECIFIC NATIONALISM continue under Left-based Global Communism and OWG!
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2004-12-02 9:35:34 PM  

#16  If I may add to Mrs. Davis comment, the date of Japan's proposal is coming very close to a certain anniversary for the Americans....
Posted by: Canuck   2004-12-02 6:46:01 PM  

#15  For both Japan and Germany, admission to the Security Council means they have been forgiven for WWII, can put war guilt behind them, and are fully admitted back in the club of world powers. For Japan, it is no coincidence that this is happening at the same time the fetters of the MacArthur constitution on foreign military activity are being loosened. It reflects the passing of control to leaders who have no first hand memory of the war.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-12-02 5:48:49 PM  

#14  I wonder if this statement is linked to the dustup with the EU over the fusion research site. I.e. is Japan giving this bone to the Europeans as a way to get them to agree to site the center in Japan vs. France?

If so I think they're doomed to disappointment.

OTOH, perhaps it's France's veto they wish to dismantle? Or, is this related to China's economic moves re: ASEAN?

Curious.
Posted by: rkb   2004-12-02 5:29:54 PM  

#13  But the spokesman added that Japan would bow to the majority within the UN..

You are hereby excused for this horrible pun.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-02 12:10:47 PM  

#12  Takashima's proposal is emminently sensible. Which is why it is doomed.

In UN diplospeak, one dissparages what one most desires.

Arguably the US will not stand in the way of losing UNSC Veto power. The US ultimately has the military power to do whatever it needs to do, irrespective of the rest of the UN. But other countries find the UNSC Veto the only ticket they have to diplomatic status. As in France may quietly promote a Japanese veto status to save it's own.

The UN without the US would be as useful as Kyoto. Something the UN does not forget.
Posted by: john   2004-12-02 11:55:08 AM  

#11  Train's leaving the station. Ex-China Asia's taking our side vs France. All aboard!
Posted by: lex   2004-12-02 11:52:48 AM  

#10  There are some points that need to be made with respect of the current makeup of the UNSC. Why are there no members from South America or Africa? Why is France still on the SC and not Japan, when the latter pays more towards the budget of the UN? Why are Committee Chairmanships given on a rotating basis and not by merit? This lead to Iran and Libya serving on the key committees that they do not really deserve. My un Rant of the Day.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-12-02 11:52:45 AM  

#9  Seems like an odd comment to make when they've been lobbying for their own permenant seat on the Security Council.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2004-12-02 11:43:33 AM  

#8  I call for a shake up of the UN.......with a wrecking ball, some C4....
Posted by: mmurray821   2004-12-02 11:14:18 AM  

#7  And give veto power to every country paying that equal share. Including Israel.

Alternatively, I submit the motion that --ceteris paribus-- France's veto-power be given to Israel. Let's think outside of the box.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever)   2004-12-02 10:58:01 AM  

#6  Go ahead, move it to Tokyo, make every member equal, and reduce our share of the budget to an equal share. Works for me.
Posted by: Tom   2004-12-02 9:21:33 AM  

#5  "somebody needs to teach you some manners"

-Highplains Drifter
Posted by: Phiter Glolung1555 (aka Jarhead)   2004-12-02 9:12:52 AM  

#4  I agree with Takashima but I would propose a different solutions either have only permanent members on the Security Council or leave the UN. I'd even give Takashima the choice.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-12-02 8:44:31 AM  

#3  Seems to me the UN was founded because of a little dust-up the Japs and Krauts started Shut the FUCK-UP

Paraphrased

"Given that this is a Trident Submarine armed with the most powerful SLBM in the world can blow your country clean off the face of the Earth, you have to ask yourself ""Do you feel lucky? Well do you punks""."
Posted by: Cheaderhead   2004-12-02 5:58:42 AM  

#2  [Q] You a bounty hunter? [A] Mans got to make a livin.

Dying aint much of a livin boy.

- OJW
Posted by: Cog   2004-12-02 5:51:56 AM  

#1  "There's two kinds of people in this world - those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
-- The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Posted by: mojo   2004-12-02 12:34:54 AM  

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